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Stormforce I haven't posted on either of your threads but I will do now First of all I am not a coward and I am a plain speaker Secondly I know Ange, whom you have attacked, and she is a lovely person. You do not have the right to attack her so personally, inaccurately and so nastily Thirdly I don't know Starcoaster personally, whom you have also attacked personally and nastily and, I am pretty sure from what I do know of her, inaccurately. You don't have that right either. If you are a woman I visualise you as what I call 'a barbie doll', lovely to look at but empty on the inside. I know women like that and they do tend to look down on others they perceive to be less beautiful than they, as you do. I don't like them, can spot them a mile off, and will not have anything to do with them because usually they are horrible people. You do show those signs If you are a man then you are hiding behind a false identity that includes a false gender. Now that seems to me to be the height of cowardice itself and yet you accuse others of it. Do you see the irony in that? I don't know what drives you to be so vicious. Do you do it because it amuses you? If so whatever gender you are you are a nasty person. Did you turn vicious because after your first post you found yourself under attack and so are defending yourself by going on the attack? If that is the case then I suggest you just damned well grow up I think what you have said about Ange and Starcoaster is disgusting, reprehensible and do you know what? I really really wish you would stop, go away and not repeat the exercise

Do you know, I don't think I have ever read a sensible post from you? Not one. I'm not saying that there haven't been any, but your batting average is pretty low. The reason I requested Bux to write properly, was so that people would read her posts. If people can't be bothered to write clearly, other people often won't take the trouble to read what was written. Result? The poster doesn't get as many useful replies as they might otherwise have done. Comprende, senor? ETA: Chertsey, I have a bad habit of responding to posts immediately, without reading on and seeing what others have said. Upon reflection, I should have said why I made my request to Bux, so thank you for rectifying my omission.

I notice the rather ill conceived "motorised butty" "Kenneth" has just turned up again via Apollo Duck with a further reduced price. Actually on ABNB's site it now lists as "Sensible offers IRO £85k considered". Already put forward as an example of why the more outlandish offerings are never going to make a good resale value I rest my case. IIRC the original build price was supposed to have been about twice what you could presumably now offer at. Oh, and apparently it has an RCD until 2010, which probably now means it needs a BSC...... ABNB Sales Linky EDITED TO ADD..... I particurly like..... Apparently it's ability to move very far, or very well "under it's own power" is a bit lacking!

I think that probably just about sums up one problem area.... The impression given in the review was a boat that could move slowly on it's own for very local trips, but could in no way be considered a boat that it is feasible to cruise much of the system in. The other problem is that it looks absolutely nothing like a butty. The ridiculously short back cabin, and the "top plank" that starts to make even Dover look relatively normal, just produce this grotesque caricature of any actual boat. Originally way into the £100,000 range, (even £150,000 possibly ??), for an odd looking boat you can't actually boat in. I'd buy Dover in strong preference to this!.....