joerobo Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Got myself a 2000 watt generater but not sure on charger both are soft start so its 30 or 45 amp.only got 2 110amp batterys at mo but increasing next year to 450 amp . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Get the bigger one if you plan to upgrade your battery bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joerobo Posted September 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Im leaning that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Megson Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 The rule of thumb seems to be 10% of the bank capacity so 45amp would be correct for your 450 bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
by'eck Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 The rule of thumb seems to be 10% of the bank capacity so 45amp would be correct for your 450 bank. But that' advice only applies to battery longevity. From a practical point of view where charge times are relevant and particularly as the OP is intending to use a generator, up to C/3 i.e. max charge current equivalent to one third of battery capacity is a good compromise between battery longevity and charge time. The OP doesn't mention the specific continuous power output of genny but 2000 watts should power up to a 60 amp charger at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottle Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 (edited) Yes a rule of thumb but joerobo look here http://www.smartgauge.co.uk/chargesize.html If it is a choice between a 30 and 45 then go for the 45. Whatever charger you get the maximum output will only be for the bulk phase of charging as soon as the batteries go into absorption they (the batteries) control the output taken from the charger, it will be a lot less than the maximum the charger is capable of. The other question is whether the generator will run the charger others will know, it is still something I am trying to get my head round. I know it depends on the power required to run the charger whether that is on the label I do not know. Edit: see I knew someone would know by'eck posted at same time as me. Edited September 9, 2014 by bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Got myself a 2000 watt generater but not sure on charger both are soft start so its 30 or 45 amp.only got 2 110amp batterys at mo but increasing next year to 450 amp . I would look for a larger one at around 60amp. There's no real rule of thumb, but many recommend 10% as it's nice for the batteries. However as your using a generator and not via shoreline been nice to batteries means lots of fuel. So bulk charging only, with a full charge every week is prob the most cost effective solution. Solar will help on the full charge even in winter. A good addition is a battery monitor that can measure how many amps is going into the batteries (even a clamp meter) as you'll then be able see when charging using the generator is not worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joerobo Posted September 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 It is for just incase for winter.so hourish a night.cover what the solar shortfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottle Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Even so the larger one would be better because it would be able to charge the batteries and run anything else that was working (12v and inverter loads) up to its maximum output. Example batteries will only take 5 amps, because they are nearly fully charged you will then have approximately 40 amps still available to run other things, TV, Fridge etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 It is for just incase for winter.so hourish a night.cover what the solar shortfall. Unless you have a lot of solar and use very little power, in winter they would be alot of shortfall, especially over the 3 darkest months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joerobo Posted September 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Thanks for all the help.it seems it uses 800 watts flat out.just need to find a home for it back cabin needs shelfs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joerobo Posted September 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=131112618891&alt=web Ordered this at 11 oclock arrived today at 10 oclock.they even answered all my dumb questions . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=131112618891&alt=web Ordered this at 11 oclock arrived today at 10 oclock.they even answered all my dumb questions . That's good service, it's not even 11 yet! Is the Delorean arriving soon? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=131112618891&alt=web Ordered this at 11 oclock arrived today at 10 oclock.they even answered all my dumb questions . Joe. did this charger have equalisation capability ? Is that the pulse charging it lists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joerobo Posted September 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 ???, email them very clever people . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joerobo Posted September 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 No charger to battery cable inclued .Ive just ordered 70mm about £7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kae Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 You won't get 70mm cable in those terminals. You can just about get 25mm2 in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
by'eck Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 You won't get 70mm cable in those terminals. You can just about get 25mm2 in them. Which will be more than adequate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joerobo Posted September 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 Good job i need some battery cable too. Just checked .ive got 10mm 70amp cable . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kae Posted September 12, 2014 Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 Good job i need some battery cable too. Just checked .ive got 10mm 70amp cable . That's fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smileypete Posted September 12, 2014 Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) The 70A rating would be for ideal conditions though. For a hot engine room with cables in bundles or conduit, 16mm2+ would be better. 10mm2 should be OK if the cables are spaced apart a little and surface mounted. 'Amps divided by three' is a good rule of thumb for sizing cables in mm2 cheers, Pete. ~smpt~ Edited September 12, 2014 by smileypete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joerobo Posted September 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 Its only 50ish cms long . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Featured Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now