Guest Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) Thanks Martin, presumably that was before/after a low bridge or tunnel.That wheelhouse looks like it has been deconstructed rather than collapsed.The funnel must be on a hinge as well then otherwise there would be no point in taking the wheelhouse apart. Possibly - Tim will no for definite - must have been the Bridgewater though thinking about it given Kennet's beam... edit to add. or maybe I was correct first time - isn't the very last lock before PB a 'wide' one and then it's a while before the next (narrow) one. I can't recall now... Edited January 5, 2012 by MJG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timleech Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Thanks Martin, presumably that was before/after a low bridge or tunnel.That wheelhouse looks like it has been deconstructed rather than collapsed.The funnel must be on a hinge as well then otherwise there would be no point in taking the wheelhouse apart. Yes, wheelbox dismantled for Preston Brook tunnel. It's due for a redesign as a folding structure anyway. Yes the funnel is hinged, the boat was built for the Upper Thames & had no wheelbox originally. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDR Posted January 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Another inane question Tim if you don't mind, while I was looking for info on Kennet I saw a picture of her lying at Albert dock and mention of the MSC.What kind of seas can a tug handle? I know Kelvins were common engines in Trawlers so the power is obviously there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timleech Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Another inane question Tim if you don't mind, while I was looking for info on Kennet I saw a picture of her lying at Albert dock and mention of the MSC.What kind of seas can a tug handle? I know Kelvins were common engines in Trawlers so the power is obviously there. She was built for the non-tidal Thames, but in the style of much bigger tugs. We've crossed the Mersey a couple of times with no problem at all, the second time with a fresh breeze but I certainly wouldn't contemplate it in bad weather. Tim Possibly - Tim will no for definite - must have been the Bridgewater though thinking about it given Kennet's beam... edit to add. or maybe I was correct first time - isn't the very last lock before PB a 'wide' one and then it's a while before the next (narrow) one. I can't recall now... Dutton Stop Lock is limited to a touch over 9' beam, & the Kennet will *just* squeeze through. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Dutton Stop Lock is limited to a touch over 9' beam, & the Kennet will *just* squeeze through. Tim Cheers - I was just trying to reconcile the fact the next pic. after the one I took of Kennet was us waiting for passage at the southern portal of Preston Brook Tunnel and the the fact that meant Kennet must have been south of the tunnel and on a 'narrow' canal, that explains it. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timleech Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Cheers - I was just trying to reconcile the fact the next pic. after the one I took of Kennet was us waiting for passage at the southern portal of Preston Brook Tunnel and the the fact that meant Kennet must have been south of the tunnel and on a 'narrow' canal, that explains it. Thanks. The canal from Preston Brook to Middlewich is neither Wide nor Narrow, the bridge holes are mostly round about 14'. Wide flats used to work up the Lift and to Middlewich though they couldn't do so now because Croxton aqueduct has been rebuilt narrow. The tunnels will take up to around 11' beam, depending on height above water. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUMPY Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 It's a Kelvin R6 For sale now, would go well in a barge What are you replacing it with? Didint it have a Crossley in it before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timleech Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 What are you replacing it with? Didint it have a Crossley in it before? Yes it had a Crossley (BW4), prior to that it had a Gardner 2-stroke direct reversing 3J5. Now it's going back to Gardner, with a 4LW - which happens to be the same horsepower as the original 3J5, but about a quarter of the 3 tons of the original. Unless someone can let me have a 3J5 to put back in, quickly before it's too late Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalesman Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) A good site for Dutch ex working vessels etc can be found her clicky Also another siteClicky Edited January 5, 2012 by Dalesman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldthehouse Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 A good site for Dutch ex working vessels etc can be found her clicky Also another siteClicky I was keeping the Sander Doeve site a secret Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB Willawaw Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Up in the air then ?? What boat did the bilge monitor go in ? Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timleech Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Up in the air then ?? What boat did the bilge monitor go in ? It's still in its box Destined for the tug. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB Willawaw Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Kennet is a beauty, Tim. It's still in its box Destined for the tug. Tim I'm not sure where you would stand with the VAT ?? I've been looking at Dutch tugs on the following site (amongst others) http://www.fikkers.nl/ned/schepen/type/sleepboten/ and increasingly seeing boats that I would seriously consider buying at prices that are extremely low compared to boats in the UK. I keep asking myself why are boats that appear superficially at least to be in extremely good condition so cheap? What is the life expectancy of the average tug's hull? I've talked to plenty of Tjalk owners on the Thames with 100 year old boats in rude health. Are the tugs generally as well built? The boat Riena has been posted here before http://www.fikkers.nl/ned/schepen/info/9014/ and may now be sold, but at 25,000 euros that is incredible value for such a beautiful boat. The engine is a DAF 575 so obviously not going to sup diesel like a narrowboat. Do you have to pay import duty if you bring one of these to the UK and are more importantly are they capable of a sea crossing? Still at the idle dreaming stage really, just weighing up the pros and cons of a Dutch tug (Don't care about being limited to broad waterways north or south for the right boat).What are they like to own on a day to day basis, how much would cranage/slippage cost compared to a narrowboat? Does anybody else have any direct experience or just share my lust for Sleepboten? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ HD ~ Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 o.p. .. here's another link http://www.botentekoop.nl/ check out these sidebar links: "Ex beroepsschepen motor" "Platbodems (motor)" at the top right on the main page be a brit. flag symbol clicking on that will lead to a dutch - english translation page of sorts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzyduck Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Tug Porn!!! Love it, there are some very pretty little ships there. http://www.fikkers.nl/ned/schepen/info/9011/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalesman Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Tug Porn!!! Love it, there are some very pretty little ships there. http://www.fikkers.nl/ned/schepen/info/9011/ Some info on this one.. Built 1915 yard 't Huijs te Veldhuis, Papendrecht. 13,70 x 3,38 x 1,70 m. 6 cil. 200 bhp. Scania Vabis. RISICO, P.J.Zwaans, Oosterwijk 1950 SAN ANTONIO, H.L.de Haas, Born 1972 AL-GRI, G.A.Kombrink, Terneuzen 1976 JEANNE, H.Mulder, Krimpen aan den IJssel 1995 RISICO, E.R.Kats, Leeuwarden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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