bobtom Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 Hi could someone help. This is not a problem as such, more a phenomenon. I recently found a thread, on the forum, that asserted that Freedom sealed wet lead/calcium batteries can be charged to 14.8 volts. I also found another thread that explained how to get my a127 alternator up to 14.8 volts, using a tractor regulator. So, I sent off for the regulator, and resistors, and connected it all up. Lo and behold, after charging for some time, the voltage reached 14.63 and refused to go any higher. Now, going back a few years, I bought a Sterling 3 stage charger. Also, about the same time, I fitted a Sterling PAR to my, then, 55 amp 127. All seemed to be going well until, about a year ago, both the charger and the PAR stopped going above, yes you guessed it, 14.63 volts! Can anyone explain this? Many thanks for any explanations Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 You may need to alter the resistor values slightly. http://www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=25083&view=findpost&p=445520 For instance, try 180Ω instead of 220Ω. Or even 100Ω in series with a pot. http://www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=25083&view=findpost&p=417223 Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtom Posted December 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 Hi Tony thanks for the reply. I did actually go for the 100 ohm in series with the pot. Turning the pot fully one way gives me 14.63 volts. Turning it fully the other way and the alternator shuts down. I had thought of trying a different resistor but, not being electronically minded, was reluctant to do so. Your advice has given me more confidence to experiment a little. Thanks However, all this does'nt explain why my charger and PAR, when I had it fitted, both gave the same results. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 Dunno... outside my comfort zone. Don't drop lower than 47 for the resistor. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtom Posted December 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 Thanks for that. Will try your suggestion. Its not bothering me too much (14.63v is better than the 14.23v I was getting before the mod), its just the curiosity of the 3 different devices coming up with the same number. Many thanks Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blodger Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 Thanks for that. Will try your suggestion. Its not bothering me too much (14.63v is better than the 14.23v I was getting before the mod), its just the curiosity of the 3 different devices coming up with the same number. Many thanks Tom Perhaps your voltmeter just has an affection for 14.63 I have used the same mod on a 50 amp marine A127 run by a B&S Lawnmower Engine and can do equalisation charges at 15.5v. IIRC it takes more resistance to up the volts so perhaps a 180/200 rather than the 100 ohm is required? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 IIRC it takes more resistance to up the volts so perhaps a 180/200 rather than the 100 ohm is required? Ahah! Useful info Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 Were these two coincidential 14.63 volts both measured on the same meter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 Were these two coincidential 14.63 volts both measured on the same meter? I think I can see where you're coming from here... Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtom Posted December 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 Perhaps your voltmeter just has an affection for 14.63 I have used the same mod on a 50 amp marine A127 run by a B&S Lawnmower Engine and can do equalisation charges at 15.5v. IIRC it takes more resistance to up the volts so perhaps a 180/200 rather than the 100 ohm is required? tee hee I think you could be right, bless its cotton little socks. Gibbo, thanks for the reply. I have a digital volt meter which I cross checked against my multi-meter. It has got me puzzled. I must point out that my batteries are, nearing the end of their life. I dont know if this is relevent. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 Gibbo, thanks for the reply. I have a digital volt meter which I cross checked against my multi-meter. But did you cross check it at 14.7, 14.8 or 15.0 volts? The meter might be fine until it gets to 14.63 volts then refuse to go any higher. It's a perfectly feasable fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smileypete Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Hi could someone help. This is not a problem as such, more a phenomenon. I recently found a thread, on the forum, that asserted that Freedom sealed wet lead/calcium batteries can be charged to 14.8 volts. You to be a bit careful interpreting that, what was said was: Bit hard to find info, but this datasheet says: 'Voltage regulator settings should be in the order of 13.8 - 14.4 volts, the higher setting being preferred. On applications with repetitive deep cycling a charging voltage of at least 14.8 volts is recommended, however the on charge voltage should not exceed 15.8 volts.' So unless you're deep cycling them repetitively, the lower charge voltage should be fine. cheers, Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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