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1 minute ago, peterboat said:
Sorry just because the EA doesnt want to do it doesnt make it right, for hundreds of years we dredged and we didnt flood now we dont dredge and we flood hopefully Boris will be having a chat on his phone about itto someone shortly telling them the same!
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4 hours ago, peterboat said:
Cobblers to the report is all I can say, its the cost of dredging they are trying to avoid!
The Don and Rother for most of the time are empty and severely blocked along their lengths so as it rains they fllod by 4 to 5 feet if the were at their proper depth the full length they wouldnt flood same as the river Hull which is under a third of its size and depth
3 hours ago, Dr Bob said:I've not read the report (where's the link?) but I would have thought dredging has to help.
If you take out 100 cu metres of crud from the bottom of the river then that river will then take 100cu metres more water at that point to achieve the same level. The question then is how much water causes the flood and can you dig that much out. I think that we should review the policy on dredging and accept the crud can be spread on the land. Are our fears of contamination too extreme? (which would then make the economics of dredging far more advantageous to flood defences which only serve to move the water downstream to the next unprotected flood plane).
1 hour ago, magpie patrick said:We had this argument in Somerset 6 years ago - the pattern is not disimmilar
Stop dredging, 20 years later there are unprecedented floods, but apparently not dredging wasn't the issue
Then, without actually admitting anything, the EA dredged the rivers again....
A lot of the problem is the difference between theory and practice - the theory saying that dredging for 200 plus years wasn't necessary, experience says otherwise
Sorry, here's the link, couldn't think where it was earlier.
@Dr Bob you're right, the key bit of the question is how much water causes the flood. he images show many many litres spread across land, a bit of dredging isn't going to make much of a dent in that
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34 minutes ago, peterboat said:
Exactly the Rother used to take fully loaded Sheffield size boats up to hovis, now a normal narrow boat can't get up there without grounding and it and the Don have trees growing in it! Before flood defense work dredging the rivers and putting those dredgings on the fields should be the first job
Dredging will not make a significant difference. There a link to a report explaining why in the other thread.
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I've a morco 11E (but it's 240v) I think. It's been flawless - other than a spider making a nest in the middle of a key pressure measurement sensor.
Mine works to the point that I can use mixer taps (e.g. shower) with effect; some others have said that this hasn't worked on theirs I think - may be wrong
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39 minutes ago, MoominPapa said:
Gas instantaneous water heaters are the solution. Morco, and friends.
MP.
Yep, this is what I use (I have a 240V one). Never think about hot water, just switch the tap on and there it is
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10 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said:
For those that can read Facebook here is a case of boat smoke causing conflict https://www.facebook.com/groups/NarrowboatOwnersGroup/permalink/2586829648261974/
As described the bloke that came knocking sounds like a right pillock. However, I'd certainly feel bad about smoking out houses. I'd either change fuel upon realising or offer to move as soon as I were able.
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Well, burning heather certainly isn't part of the solution, but yes I take your point that the loss of tree's is worse. Still they ain't going to plant woods / forests on their estates if they won't even stop burning heather for 'the greater good'
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An example of the estate owners not doing what they should to (among other things) protect people from flooding. Their insistence on burning simply to keep a 'sport' of shooting birds alive and 'well stocked' is maddening in this day n age
I imagine they are pleased that Joe public thinks dredging will help so that there's no attention on them
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I'm gonna guess it will be + 18 months
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@Mad Harold See above posts
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1 minute ago, Parahandy said:
I spoke to the Lady who does the enforcing in Milton Keynes which for some time now is recognised as a distinct Area complete with its own designated Enforcement Officer . In conversation with me she said that they have a 1km rule , which is effectively useless as it isn't enshrined in Law and only you know about it .
That rule exists across the whole system: They've divided the whole system into lengths and the rule they enforce is that you must shuffle from one km to a different km every 14 days (at least) and that you must have a total end to end of 32 of these kms in your 12 month period.
Though the rule isn't law, it does seem to keep folks moving about
This is off topic, sorry
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1 hour ago, MartynG said:
Did anyone say it was permitted to discharge sewage in a canal?
I don't think it is permitted.
Yes they did, have a read of the thread.
1 hour ago, Murflynn said:exactly. any pillock who thinks it is worthwhile to find legal loopholes allowing it should be named and shamed.
it would be nice if folk led by example, and did the right thing just because it is the right thing, instead of challenging the law.
This thread has been an exercise in education on the current regulations. I don't think anyone has condoned the idea of putting waste into the canal. However, yes if you choose to do so there's no law against it (assuming no local bye-laws).
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I wouldn't have thought dredging would have significant impact on flood prevention. You're dredging a narrow channel, so you'd have to do it bloody deep to impact the volume that's been flowing against the defenses / outer banks lately
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14 minutes ago, Murflynn said:
well I suggest everyone poos in a bucket and throws it overboard, with the likely result that it rapidly becomes a national health issue and is made a criminal offence. Enforcement can then receive the full support of the law.
To form a balanced argument. I suggest everyone doesn't, it would be minging and would cost money to to make into a law.
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Yes that's what I understood. So if you research of local bye-laws and find nothing forbidding it, you can discharge sewage into the canal. But, please don't!!!
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cheers for feeding back folks
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51 minutes ago, Alastair said:
It is permitted on the Yorkshire Ouse, up to Linton lock.
I think the point of Alan's work was to show that it's actually 'permitted' (it's not against the law) in any waterway; unless I've miss-understood the posts
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It's been cleared now
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3 minutes ago, rgreg said:
In the case of the Lancaster closure, it is for maintenance. If CRT start issuing licence discounts for stoppages they'll have even less money for maintenance.
Yeah, but not much less aye. tenths or hundredths of a percent I would think
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19 minutes ago, rgreg said:
The problem is, where do CRT draw the line with this? For example, the Lancaster Canal is blocked north of Lancaster for 5 months, leaving only a short stretch available; should all those trapped boats get a discount? The end result would only mean controversy and reduced income for CRT.
Well, they should do whatever's fair imo. I'd suggest that it would motivate them to get stuff sorted faster. but then they don't make very much money from us in the grand scheme of things
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ah good on em, hope they do something similar here
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another victim of fenders down cruising
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7 minutes ago, Midnight said:
I wonder if CaRT will consider a restricted cruising license for 5% of the regular fee which is possibly about the same percentage of our cruising options.
I agree with your desire, seems only fair. Though I assume there's something in the TCs that states they can't do out about stoppages and so luck of the draw with how much you can cruise
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On 15/02/2020 at 07:17, Jimmiboy said:
That’s exactly what I want to do, in my mind I want a reverse layout cruiser. But I’ve been on so few boats I need to have a proper look around.
That's kinda what I have. From the rear deck you walk into the kitchen, then a 6ft open space, then bathroom, then bedroom and finally front room with doors onto the raised front deck.
I'm moored in Leighton Buzzard at the minute, if you were local and wanted to pop your head in for 5 minutes drop me a PM
Another series of lows and Storm Dennis
in General Boating
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In reference to the water from storm Desmond:
"...research at the time indicated that given that succession of storms, dredged rivers in Somerset wouldn’t have prevented the floods"
Taken from the Chartered Institute of Water and Environmental Management, as @peterboat seems to think EA are lying about the effect of dredging to get out of spending a few quid.
Dredging will help in some instances, but it's not the one stop solution.