Bettie Boo

Hi DG, Good observation The cratch cover is only a couple months old and the owner hasn't had a chance yet to move both the tunnel light nor the horn to the correct place outside the cratch cover, but we've said this is one of the things we would like completed before the final purchase. Along with installing the speakers in the saloon (the wire's seen hanging down on either side of the interior of the front doors), and 1 piece of missing moulding in the galley. We've also asked that he replace the "mushroom caps" (did I get that right?) both interior and exterior bits as they are corroded and it doesn't look like a matter of simple cleaning to me......LMAO - of course the last part is based on my Vast experience with the cleaning of mushroom caps for anything other than garlic stuffed mushrooms B~

FYI received same fatal error message a couple minutes ago Ta B~

thanks for the interest guys I've really struggled to get the link copied and pasted http://apolloduck.net/148397 but have finally managed it. She's needs a wee bit of character added to the interior, but most new homes do. And besides that is one of the many things I'm looking forward too, putting our mark on her Our offer has been accepted, with the understanding of the RCD compliance & the outcome of the survey. Oh and he's going to get a new BSS and blacken her as well while she is out of the water. Ta B~

Hi All, Well it seems we are getting closer. We are now in the process of picking a surveyor. The boat is in Chorley; between Preston & Manchester. I've searched the forum for old posts looking for any experiences or suggestions that people have had with surveyor's in that area, but have come up blank so far. I've done the Google thing and have come up with the below list of Lancashire surveyor's. Wondering if anyone has had any experience with any of them and if so was it a good one? As complete and utter novices we would be very interested to shadow our surveyor on the day (or at least one of us) AJL Yacht Surveys Burnley, W.Yorkshire, Lancashire, N.Cheshire P. J. Hopley Manchester North West Surveys Lancashire Quest Marine Surveys Lancashire Small Boat Surveys Lancashire While looking at the old surveyor posts I have noticed Trevor Whitling's name highly recommended, but he's based in Rugby; anyone know if he travels farther afield? Any experience with Surveyors in that area would be most welcome Thanks as always, B~

Hi Peter, Thank you for the response. I put in a £15 donation for the 2 I down loaded, so feeling that was reasonable as I will be printing & laminating them off myself. Again, Thank you B~

Well I have finally managed to stop the tears enough to write my thoughts here. Each and everyone of you involved in "A Lady, Two Dogs & a Cat" from making that first approach, organizing the harness, making the donations required for the harness, the offer of a caravan, in nasty weather searching for a sole in need, and giving space in your home so a much loved and suffering pet could pass his last hours in comfort; to the current chapter of this tale and the purchase and installation of the stove. You should all be VERY proud of yourselves. This thread has touched so many emotions & memories, with the every present but behind the scenes Pay it Forward analogy. If Ever I can be of support whether it be a financial donation or something practical, please count me in. You folks & this thread Really do go a long way in revitalizing the true meaning and belief that "magnanimous kindness toward Humanity" does still exist. Best Regards, B~

Hi Mick & Maggie, Great link - went there yesterday and down loaded a couple of the guides, that will be relevant to us when we do find ourselves in a position to start cruising. I left a donation, but have NO idea what these guides are worth in PDF form, so not sure that the donation I left would be suitable. I don't want the lady who took the time & effort to create them to think I was taking the wee wee. Can you kind folks give me an idea of their monitory value so I can correct my donation if I was way off please? I appreciate these guides are dated, however knowing where to get fuel, boat parts and groceries in places we are unfamiliar with will be of massive practical value - not positive about this, but can only assume the locks / bridges & tunnels will still be in the same locations as well Ta B~

Excellent point IMO - greenie to you B~ p.s. - this response was in no way meant to be sarcastic, rude or hurtful edit to add last comment

Hi everyone, Again, thank you for your thoughts / opinions / links to very useful threads & in some cases expert advice - I really can't put into words just how helpful they have All been. So as a means to clarify to everyone "my own personal opinions" / feelings on the matter here they are: - I wouldn't exactly describe myself as a "goody two shoes", but on the same hand have no interest at all in breaking any UK/European laws that in the slightest way may result in either a court case or worse still my loss of liberty or the right to reside in the country (still being a Canadian citizen). I may not see any sense in some of the laws, but they are the law never the less, so whether I agree or disagree really has no bearing on it. They apply to me, I will do my utmost to no break them. - I rate the safety of any guests we may have on our boat, anyone else that is in near proximity to our boat, as well as that of ourselves as being of the utmost importance - I would dread to think that either our ignorance of safety or disregard for safety lead in any way to personal injury. - Our backgrounds are in catering/hospitality & manufacturing/pc electronics; none of which give very practical applications to meeting the knowledge needed to make some of the informed decisions we will need to make over the coming weeks in both the purchase of our boat & setting ourselves up as CC / liveaboards. Hence my opening comments. - As this is our first purchase we will be taking the route of having a survey done prior to the final sale for our own piece of mind. We have not yet decided to what extent of survey we will have, as it will be dependant of the boat. In the case of the self build boat we are currently leaning towards a survey which would include the LPG connections, wiring/electrics, engine bay & engine (a portion of the top of the bay is enclosed with wood rather than steel, which doesn't seem all that safe to us), and of course the hull. - Am I looking for the best deal possible for buying our new home? Well of course I am, but the above first two points Must be met. There is some very clear information regarding the sale of a self built boat within the first 5 years, in both versions of the RCD which I have read; the RYA 1st edition Feb 06 and the BM 1st edition Feb 08. I my "less than experienced knowledge", my understanding thus far, is it can indeed be legally done, but it will need to comply with the RCD and applicable annex's first. Please keep your thoughts & suggestions rolling in - with your assistance, I feel we are moving ever closer to realizing our dream P.S this post was in no way meant to be insulting, derogatory or negative to any members. Ta B~

Oh, now that's a new one on me BB, haven't came across that before B~

LOL Athy; You've got it correct on both counts - well actually "biscuits" in Canada & US actually have different meanings as well. Canada - tea biscuit usually referrers to something "similar" to a scone in the UK. US - biscuit "usually" refers to something "roughly similar" to a dumpling in the UK and yeah, I still use the term gas for "petrol" to this day, just one of the few phrases I have struggled to change in my natural vocabulary I tend to find words or phrases I use on a regular basis I'm ok with, but the ones that only come up on the odd occasion I still tend to use the Canadian terminology. Car parts & body parts are a big one for me and there is a vast difference in the part names - which always leads to raised eyebrows or questioning looks. Fender Bumper Hood Trunk signal lights 4 way flashers emergency break booster cables windshield windshield wiper blades block heater ignition wires (we normally just call them "a set of wires") studded or winter tires chains the list goes on and on, and that's not even touching in the different names we have for common tools as well B~ Edited for spelling

LOL BB - I can relate to the trunk one During a Duty Manager shift at the Hilton by Kegworth, I was called to the Front Desk to deal with a very upset guest. Gentleman, in his forties approaches me and states "my bonnet has been stolen, how am I supposed to get home?" The gentleman didn't look like he was a wing nut - but I think to myself "why would someone stealing his hat halt his journey home?" Like I say, there have been many many funny occasions in the past years B

Ange / BB, Both very funny stories just some of the words / phrases I've been picked up on since arriving: muffler = piece of car exhaust system to me "hold on, my flaps are caught in the door" = the flaps on the cardboard boxes I had on a trolley were getting fetched up in the elevator doors (this faux pas on my behalf sent my assistant into hysterics, but being a man, he was unable to explain why what I had said was so funny) panty hose - I now call them tights whipper snipper - I now call it a strimmer "would anyone have a spare pair of pants in their storeroom? one of my staff have arrived inappropriately dressed" this comment was met with utter radio silence, until my boss came on and said "Betty, we call them trousers here" (my comment had gone across the hand held radio system we used, so not only did my work colleagues hear my question, but any guests in their proximity would also have heard) it did take a fair while for the teasing to tapper out after that one quiff - pretty much the nastiest word you could call a woman in Canada just yesterday I asked Dave to get my debit card out of my purse (handbag), went downstairs and he's rummaging around in my wallet looking for it Turnip (Canada) = Swede (UK) Turnip (UK) = Never seen that vegetable in Canada Snow Peas = Mange Tout Egg Plant = Aubergine imagine how distressing the last 4 were to me working in the Catering industry - all of a sudden I didn't know what food stuffs were called - darn hard to write a menu well those are just a few examples, we've had some great laughs at the faux pas I've made and am still on occasion making B~

Mr. Fincher, You of course are 100% correct, I really have no idea why I responded as I did. It was Very silly of me to question if, your 3 separate posts made within 1/2 hour, were relating to the uncouth practice of someone apologizing on someone else's behalf, might in fact have anything to do with me disgracing myself and lowering myself to such low customs. I especially agree with the last two sentence's of yours that I have quoted above. This practice should (IMHO) be upheld by every member of the forum; of course with the exception of your kind self. Hence I wouldn't dare dream of expecting an apology from your esteemed self for offending me in your persistence to keep reminding everyone of the unconscionable mistake I made in apologizing on someone else's behalf. Please don't feel you need to waste your very valuable time in responding to my whimsical comments above. I have learned my lesson through and through now; have applied the tar & feathers, and will not be making many further posts. As someone else has correctly eluded to, it's better sometimes to keep one's own council on this forum. your most humble & quiet fellow member, Betty btw - I'm thinking along the lines of six layer cottage pie for dinner

LMAO - pint taken B~

Ange, you've hit the nail on the head for me My first telephone conversation with Dave while I was in Canada and he in England contained the phrase "hold on a second love, I just want to throw on a jumper and grab a fag" Well, in my mind that statement translated to "hold on a second love, I just want to thrown on a jumper (sleeveless dress that would normally be worn over a turtle neck sweater or such) and grab a fag (a person with strong attractions towards others of the same sex).... 1 year later we were married 15 years on and I'm still amazed & amused at the vast amount of items that have different names not only from Canada, but within a 20 mile radius of most locations in the UK. And love the fact that you can travel 5 - 50 miles from most any location in the UK and come across so many different dialects. This response was in no way meant to cause offense or sarcasm, just my humble two cents worth B~

What a GREAT link ditchcrawler - can't believe I haven't come across it before. I thank you - my bank account doesn't; but then again, one can't take it with them If I had a greenie it would be yours! Ta B~

Hi Ray / ditchcrawler and all the others who have donated valuable advice/questions & comments on this thread (even though it seems I've hijacked the OP questions) We've seen the boat now, and I did not see, either a CE mark, or any written evidence to imply it meet with the RCD requirements. We made the vendor clearly aware that although we were very interested in the purchase of the boat we would not be proceeding any further until we were satisfied that the boat was in a position to be sold legally, compliant with the RCD requirements & CE marked. Once we are satisfied with that, then we can get on with the survey and such. Ta again, Betty~

Hi Col, Firstly I have NO practical experience, but have been doing a bit of research into different fuels and their costs as hubby and I are hoping to be afloat by the End of Jan at the latest. (Still searching for our boat at present) Came across this site during my research and though it might be of some use to you. If you are limited on storage space it might be an idea to have a neighbour who would be willing to go half's with you and look into the bulk orders. Prices seem quite reasonable compared to that sold at the DIY shops. www.fergussoncoal.co.uk Might also want to check out the prices of the working boats in your region and support the local trade. Just a newbie's 2 cents worth - no insult or prejudice was meant in this response B~

For goodness sake- I just want to learn about boating Me too But other's seem to get a great amount of pleasure out of "whipping a horse to death" unfortunately - I'm more than willing to stand corrected when I've done / said or implied something wrong. But not willing to take relentless abuse for simply apologizing on someone else's behalf, one step to far in my books. Back to the RCD learning curve for me Ta B~

Hi Alan - Please correct me if I'm "assuming" the wrong meaning of the highlighted quote above, but just to clarify was that by chance directed towards me? Hi Alan - same question as above? Again same question Again for the third time. In response to and to clarify, the highlighted quotes above; not relating to someone having the decency to come on the forum and in good grace and meaning, apologize on behalf of someone they are near & dear too. Which IMO you've made Perfectly clear; you do not think is well meant or by Any means acceptable behaviour; but then again please keep bringing it up relentlessly, as there just may be one member who or visitor who was thinking of joining who hasn't had the pleasure of reading your view on this topic. 1) are you suggesting that the people who have caused you offence no longer post, or is it directed at the people who had the audacity to apologize on someone else's behalf (who have never made another post since their outburst, hence complying with your request of no longer posting) 2) if your quotes re apologizing on someone else's behalf are indeed directed at me, then I Do find them offensive. Does that mean that either I can aspect an apology from you or someone on your behalf who actually knows you and appreciates that although you may have strong opinions & views you do at times make a complete mess of it? Or as your suggestion above, you will simply no longer be posting 3) have you ever in your life apologized or defended a family member or friend to someone who isn't really acquainted with them, but who you believe has made a Very Bad first impression? If not, I feel quite bad for your family and friends. 4) Just in case my husband was in your thoughts when you made the above quotes, have you ever taken the time to ask yourself exactly why he hasn't made another post since his unfortunate last one? Or do you simply enjoy bashing me so much your unwilling to let it drop? Betty