Jerra

It would seem so, I suppose it is also possible that such checks all round the system provide data about various things.

I take it you don't accept contract law, if you did you would realise to fulfil your contract it is a legal requirement otherwise you are breaking the contract. So take the boat to a pond, dig a pond in your garden or have it on land somewhere.

Personally I am not sure he knows what he thinks or the point he is trying to make.

I spent 40 years teaching kids, many of whom had comprehension difficulties, I never came across a problem like you. There are two separate issues which you seem to have difficulty getting your head round. Your licence for being legally on the canal and your agreement with wherever you keep your boat. If every time you had used your boat you had it craned out (or for that matter slipped) you wouldn't need a licence once off the water. However the CRT could if they so wished make an agreement with the crane firm that they wouldn't crane in an unlicensed boat. The situation is similar with marinas. As you know for the vast majority of marinas to be allowed to have access to the canal, agree to various T&Cs. One is that they will not allow boats to moor if not licenced. In turn the Marina makes an agreement with the moorers that they aren't allowed to moor if not licenced. Nothing to do with you and your agreement with CRT it is to do with you agreement with the marina.

They don't have to!!! It is contractual with the marina. How many times for heavens sake.

So the T&Cs which you have agreed to allow you to keep your boat off the canal and when you choose to move on to the canal the licence is serving its purpose. Without the marina having its contract requiring you to have a licence you would need craning in each time you wanted to take advantage of your licence as they would not be connected to the canal. You have been told umpteen times contract law. Standard business practice.

Only if you choose to be in a marina.

However as has been frequently pointed out by some (you included I think) when in a marina you are not on CRT waters. So you need to conform to the Marinas T&Cs.

How many time do you need told it is nothing to do with you and your licence agreement. It is based on standard business practice and contract law. Why do you keep pretending it is to do with an agreement between you and CRT?

Both!

I don't think without reading the thread again anybody has suggested what you are suggesting. The point under discussion is IMO simple. The marina owners are entitled to make any agreement they want with CRT for access to the canal. Then they are also entitled to say we will only allow moorings if you have a current boat licence. All simple straightforward business. I see no reason why anybody should try to pretend otherwise.

You seem to being having difficulty with the fact that the marina is entitled to put whatever it likes in its contract T&Cs. Then if people don't stick to the contract they are entitled to evict them. That isn't menace its normal business, you make a contract and if either party breaks the contract there are consequences.

Do I gather you make a habit of breaking contracts because you consider any results to be menace?

Surely the marina has a legal right to refuse a mooring or require people to leave if they break their contract with the marina i.e. to have the boat licenced.

Surely if it is a mainly hire problem (is there any evidence this is true) then surely the company don't want their boats sunk so should be giving the required training. Either at an actual lock is one is near enough or by a compulsory video/teaching session. It can't be good for profits having a boat sunk.

Of course not! They wait until you aren't looking.

Going by some of the vegetation I have seen on towpath side margins recently a trim twice a decade would be an improvement.

Assuming both were made of the same material one possible reason could be supply. I suspect there were more large aged Oaks around so that the centre of the tree was very dense. Oaks of the required girth are probably much harder to come by these days. Just a thought I am probably wrong.