LPG Gas safe training

[Spacebar]

Hi does anyone know if it is possible to train exclusively as a gas installer for LPG on boats without having to learn how to instal boilers in houses for example?

I ask this as the boat aspect interests me but working in houses like I did as a lad does not.

Thanks.

[Ex- Member]

Hi does anyone know if it is possible to train exclusively as a gas installer for LPG on boats without having to learn how to instal boilers in houses for example?

I ask this as the boat aspect interests me but working in houses like I did as a lad does not.

Thanks.

 

I was told that to work on LPG as an inspector you had to take additional qualifications to operate in that medium, and that's on top of already being a fully qualified gas fitter / engineer. There's also a whole load of changes in recent years due to Euro dictates but I'm pretty sure you can't be just a LPG engineer with the ability to inspect and pass LPG installations.

 

 

 

[MtB]

Hi does anyone know if it is possible to train exclusively as a gas installer for LPG on boats without having to learn how to instal boilers in houses for example?

I ask this as the boat aspect interests me but working in houses like I did as a lad does not.

Thanks.

 

It is theoretically possible to qualify by taking core gas safety for LPG only, then the appliance elements, then LPG for boats, but you'll be hard pressed to find any training establishment offering these I suspect. If you are seriously good you can do it all by home study them just take the exams, but I think anyone other than a total genius would be completely overwhelmed by taking the exams from scratch with just home study and no in-depth training first.

 

There is also now the hurdle of producing a portfolio of work done under the supervision of a GSR bod AIUI, unless that has been dropped again. I'm not up to speed on how to qualify these days having got my tickets back in the mists of time ;-)

 

Best way to get proper information is to approach a local gas training skool doing LPG and ask them. They are all generally very helpful as they will see you as a source of a few £k of income whether you have the ability or not

 

Cynical? Moi?

 

Mike

[Spacebar]

Thanks guys I will get on the phone Monday.

[ridders]

Evesham college would be the best place to speak to in my opinion 01386 712600

and ask for the energy centre - they provide the bss training courses and definitely lpg boats.

As Mike said, you'd need to do lpg core gas safety, and boats (specialisms are permanent dwellings, leisure accommodation vehicles, boats, residential park homes etc. then you have to gain training and assessment in each type of appliances eg - water heaters, central heating (wet), warm air, cookers, space heaters etc.

usually you have to prove hours on the job to be eligible for the training, then would probably need to work for a gas safe registered firm to gain experience before being granted registration in yopur own right.

After 5 years you have to sit all those exams again- not worth it as a hobby, but as a career you'd have to make your own mind up whether it's worth the outlay and effort!

sorry to go on,

paul

[Skeggy]

Hi does anyone know if it is possible to train exclusively as a gas installer for LPG on boats without having to learn how to instal boilers in houses for example?

I ask this as the boat aspect interests me but working in houses like I did as a lad does not.

Thanks.

To get my core gas i had to produce a portfolio of 12 jobs including instalation and servicing and fault finding. I therefore had to be working for a gas safe registerd firm. I spent one year on day release at college. And then sat the 3 day Gas safe exam. If i were to take any other appliences for instance gas fires or warm air heaters it would cost more money and require more training at college. I would imagine the LPG side is similer. Ie you take a core gas exam and then anything else on top would be extra say caravans or boats. I belive Moulton college in Northampton are doing LPG courses now.

I expressed an interest in LPG and my tutors reply was. 'If you think this is hard work then try LPG'.

But i'm sure if you put your mind to it it cant be that bad.

Good luck

[bag 'o' bones]

Its all screams of 'jobs for the boys' I know that it is important that tradespeople should be sufficiently skilled to do the job - you only have to look at some of the installation horrors in other countries for idea of how bad it could be without such schemes as gas safe - but it does seem that the high costs of aquiring papers is preventing self employed gas fitters from diversifying their service.

 

Talk about red tape! Then the government starts complaining that we can't compete with the rest of the world!

Edited July 2, 2011 by bag 'o' bones

[the grinch]

Hi does anyone know if it is possible to train exclusively as a gas installer for LPG on boats without having to learn how to instal boilers in houses for example?

I ask this as the boat aspect interests me but working in houses like I did as a lad does not.

Thanks.

 

yes it is possible, try your local college that does gas training you will need to take CCLP1 (core gas safety LPG), LEILP1 (leisure appliances)then maybe CABLP1 and HTRLP1 (cabinet heaters and closed flue fires) also WATLP1 water heaters and CENLP1 boilers.

[Skeggy]

yes it is possible, try your local college that does gas training you will need to take CCLP1 (core gas safety LPG), LEILP1 (leisure appliances)then maybe CABLP1 and HTRLP1 (cabinet heaters and closed flue fires) also WATLP1 water heaters and CENLP1 boilers.

Im sure you cant just walk in off the street with a bag of money and come out a fully trained and registerd gas fitter. If you could everyone would be at it.

As we know anyone can pass an exam if they study hard enough. What gas safe require is evidence of experience in the idustry.

An apprenticeship idealy.

This makes it tricky for most people over the age of say, 25, to get a foothold on the ladder. Due to the traditionaly low wage an apprentice receives.

There may be training providers out there who can link you up with employers.

Spacebar says he used to work in the industry. Maybe this will count.

Maybe a boat yard could help with a portfolio.

I can understand the frustration people feel. I for one struggled like hell to get my portfolio together. And i work for a plumbing firm!

Due to the nature of LPG and the environment its being used in i.e vehicals i dont think every Tom Dick and Harry should be offering gas services to the unsuspecting public.

Anyone remember the fiberglass cruiser in what was Ladyline Marina, Braunston. I can. It went quite high.

That said it is the only gas safety incident i can recall.

Maybe due to stringent regulations this country enforces.

[the grinch]

Im sure you cant just walk in off the street with a bag of money and come out a fully trained and registerd gas fitter. If you could everyone would be at it.

 

no you can't, but you can do the training! there are several ways into the industry. i worked in 2 boatyards over 3 years to gain the necessary experience before taking my ACS. which included natural gas which i had NO PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE in.

 

after a 7 day training and 3 days of assessments i was "fully qualified" to work on both NG & LPG the rest i learnt on the job,

[Skeggy]

 

no you can't, but you can do the training! there are several ways into the industry. i worked in 2 boatyards over 3 years to gain the necessary experience before taking my ACS. which included natural gas which i had NO PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE in.

after a 7 day training and 3 days of assessments i was "fully qualified" to work on both NG & LPG the rest i learnt on the job,

With respect when was this? Maybe things have changed since then.
I have been left with the impression from my time with the gas safe trainer <august 2010> that you will not work with a gas unless you have the training, experience and obviously the gas safe card.
Maybe things vary from one training center to the next.
I did notice one center offering courses to convert from natural gas to lpg.
Whatever the situation. One things for sure its an expensive game to be in re. training and qualifications.

Regards

[ridders]

Its all screams of 'jobs for the boys' I know that it is important that tradespeople should be sufficiently skilled to do the job - you only have to look at some of the installation horrors in other countries for idea of how bad it could be without such schemes as gas safe - but it does seem that the high costs of aquiring papers is preventing self employed gas fitters from diversifying their service.

 

Talk about red tape! Then the government starts complaining that we can't compete with the rest of the world!

i've just noticed this post, and with respect must entirely disagree- the current menu form of acs allows gas operatives to stay current in the fields they work in, without having to pay for all other aspects of gas work - so for example a kitchen fitter would only need core gas safety and cookers-which would save him thousands of pounds every 5 years compared with someone like me who does a wide range of work

[the grinch]

With respect when was this? Maybe things have changed since then.

Maybe things vary from one training center to the next.

I did notice one center offering courses to convert from natural gas to lpg.

Whatever the situation. One things for sure its an expensive game to be in re. training and qualifications.

 

Regards

 

Judd

 

yes the trainers vary both in quality and price!(sadly its still who you know not what you know!!)there a still backdoor ways in, most offer lpg as well as NG

my last batch of reassessment cost £1,500 core+4 appliances, LPG conversion+3 modules RPH,PD & Boats

[Spacebar]

Thanks for the replies.

I just wanted to learn it for my own boat and interest really not a major career move.