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gas pipes and fittings are available in 3/8" and in 10mm, but it seems difficult to procure a complete system in either one or the other. eg Alde bubblers are 10mm but gas taps are 3/8".

 

does anybody know if 10mm copper tube to EN1057 Table W is compatible with 3/8" compression fittings?

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No mate 10mm tube is slightly bigger so wont fit in the unions but you can use 3/8 olives in 10mm fittings, also Alde bubble testers are avalible in all sizes http://www.caravanning-online.co.uk/acatal...-detectors.html ,

I belive it is the norm for boats to use imperial fittings, i did a recent refit to find the previous owner had used a mixture of metric and imperial right pain in the a$%e

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Chris

 

Recently installed an imperial gas main but would add

next time I would use metric fittings.

 

They are easy to obtain and a dam site cheaper

than being stuck with buying from a marine shop.

 

Dont know why builders still use imperial !!

 

Try http://www.bes.ltd.uk They Sell all LPG fittings and Regulators etc

and are cheap

 

 

Glenn

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Yes i use them but our local caravan shop is resonable so i go there to, did i read somewhere that imperial gas pipe is easier to bend? Imperial is more expensive but thats just the "Marine" and lesuire price hike

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Elsewhere on this forum you may have read my disaster with a 'so called' boat qualified CORGI gas fitter. I replaced his very professional entire mishmass of 15mm and 8mm? pipes and joints with a single run of 10mm copper pipe as advised by my BSS inspector. I fitted a 10mm bubble tester in the gas locker with the flexible hose connected directly (although I didn't use the hose connecter version specifically - I ended up with exactly the same set-up) then a single length of 10mm through the various bulkheads (no bulkhead fittings used I just sheathed and grommeted the pipe 'cos I couldnt get the recommended electrical gland to fit) to the appliance on/off tap where I needed an adaptor to reduce the 10mm to fit the cooker armoured hose (8mm if I recall corectly). At risk of repeating myselt the gas system went from 19 joints! down to 5 - and the system passed the BSS.

 

Hope this helps - if you need to know more about how I did the sheath/grommet thing please feel free to ask.

 

Tony

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Metric fittings are perfectly acceptable for all forms of Gas. Providing it was a "kosher" installation by a competant person there is no reason why it should fail.

Boats are one of the last bastions of "imperial fittings" and yes you can "do" a metric installation for a fraction of the imperial price! :D

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Having phoned several chandlers around the Midlands looking for one specific item (10mm gas tap) all, without exception, stocked only imperial and where aghast that I should be using metric fitting. Thus the use of imperial fittings is perpetuated. I was simply following the acvice of my BSS inspector (as previously mentioned) who is a gentleman, boat owner and of the right attitude.

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The problem with all this is that there is no attempt at standardisation, as well as metric/ imperial there is also Wade/ Enots types and many more. To confuse things further, the 'standard' taper threads which we call BSP (British standard pipe) is internationally recognised though I have no idea what others call them.

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For all my gas fittings I went to a local standard plumbers shop. Mine are all 10mm and they are extremely helpful. I went on recommendation from a chandlery who said they would have everything I needed, and would be cheaper!!!!! :P

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For all my gas fittings I went to a local standard plumbers shop. Mine are all 10mm and they are extremely helpful. I went on recommendation from a chandlery who said they would have everything I needed, and would be cheaper!!!!! :P

Your right there Bones, is Imperial pipe easier to work with? there has to be some reason why caravan/boats still use it, (do they still use it?) Metric is much easier to get hold of and as Bones says cheaper

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