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Maybe, but it's the kind of comment that is likely to be taken by the OP -- or others -- as directed at them ("you're incompetent"), especially given the tone earlier in the thread. There was no need for it, and it just smacks of exactly the kind of "boater elitism" I was complaining about, and which leads to so many heated arguments on CWDF -- and newbies being driven away. If that what people who make comments like this want to happen, then they're doing their job... 😞

And yet another helpful and constructive comment, guaranteed to encourage friendly discourse rather than provoking arguments... 😞

You and the other person making similar comments. I'm glad you find it amusing, funnily enough a lot of new posters don't and bite back. Then the wrath of the CWDF "old school boaters" descends on them, and a pointless argument throwing insults around ensues. If they then flounce off in a dudgeon, those who have "successfully" driven them away congratulate themselves on doing so, make comments like "shut the door on your way out", and then happily sit back in the knowledge of a job well done -- well, as they see it. All of which is precisely why many newbies don't stay, or having heard about the reception they're likely to get never join CWDF in the first place and go to other forums like -- shock, horror! -- Facebook. Leaving CWDF with the reputation as a place populated largely by bitter old men who like nothing better than telling naive newbies how stupid they are compared to the boating elite. As one of the frequent perpetrators responsible for this behaviour, I'm afraid you're the one who "really doesn't see it". But having had exactly this argument with you before, I don't expect you to change your ways, so there's no point carrying on with this. Bye-bye -- again... 😞

Ooh, nice bit of victim blaming there... Some of the comments -- including the one he objected to -- had no useful content and were purely having a poke. As was yours about "why do we help these people?". If you can't see the issue with posts like this from "long-standing members" to newcomers, I'm afraid you're part of the problem. And before you have a dig at me for daring to point this out, you've both got form for doing this, as demonstrated multiple times... 😞

Except it's not illegal to sell or buy a secondhand boat without a PCA/RCD, as has been said innumerable times on CWDF and indeed on this very thread... 😉 Though I'm sure Alan will -- yet again! -- claim otherwise, this is what several brokers believe and have publicly stated on their websites, presumably having taken legal advice to confirm this so they don't drop themselves in the legal doo-doo. Whether you believe them or Alan is of course purely a matter of opinion... 😉

I don't see how it would help -- fundraising/managing/policing is going to be no different, and I believe National Parks have had their funding cut even more than CART has... 😞

I can quite easily walk/shuffle down the side of the bed at night when it's extended, and my boat has a decent amount of tumblehome. That's with a bed which is 4'6" when extended, and a cabin which is 6'1" wide at floor level.

Yes, since it's only 2 years old... 😉

Many mattresses nowadays can't/shouldn't be turned (over) including most hybrid ones, they only work one way up. In addition if they're not quite rectangular (like mine) they can't be turned top-to-bottom either...

How much of this is anything to do with safety, and how much to do with box-ticking/paperwork/two bald men arguing over a comb? 😉 Boat with RCR/RCD : buy now for a bit more, sell later (anywhere) for a bit more Boat without RCR/RCD : buy now for a bit less, sell later (not via some brokers) for a bit less The only difference is a bit more money tied up in the boat, maybe a couple of grand. Spending £6k+ and much time/effort to "bring up to standard" : don't bother, there's no chance you'll ever get the money back, and nobody cares. Except the bald men... 😉

Sorry, got confused about who had posted -- Tony (Brooks) not Mike (the Boatman)...

But @Alan de Enfield, those despairing FB posts are both from somebody who wants to sell via a broker who insists on RCD compliance, not privately or via a broker who doesn't. Which is entirely his decision, but is not a legal requirement, is it? As various brokers have said, it is perfectly legal to sell or buy a secondhand boat without these documents, even though the trade body (and some brokers) insist on it this is their decision not the law.

Indeed, but that's due to the "soft limiting" curve of an analogue regulator. For hours of charging before the voltage gets up that high (which I thought was what Mike was talking about), surely both could provide the same current?

What is "market value" for a towpath mooring with no facilities? AFAIK there are no private/commercial providers for such in London, only CART could provide them, so they can decide what to charge. If they thought that they'd get more money by offering them for (say) £1000-£1500 a year and driving few boaters away instead of £3000 and driving most of them away, then that's their business isn't it?

If you do I can recommend this -- we got one similarly made to fit, and it's "extremely" comfortable... https://www.made2measuremattress.co.uk/boat-mattresses/hybrid-memory-1000.html

Especially if a "London towpath mooring" (with no facilities) cost rather less than a current marina/online mooring -- say, £1000-£1500 a year (similar to a farm mooring?) instead of £3000-£4500 for a serviced marina one...

Do you really think that London CMers are going to say to CART "Yeah, I'd pay up for a mooring if one was available" when they suspect that this is exactly what CART want to do and they're looking for an excuse to do it? (bearing in mind that in this case "a mooring" probably means at least £3000 a year, which is cheap for London) Turkeys don't vote for Xmas... 😉

I'm pretty sure it can't, it's just a regulator down from battery voltage like the internal one -- once there's full battery voltage across the field coil (which either can provide, near enough) that's it.

I thought of doing that -- the problem is that you then *can't* pull it back if you want/need to. Also Ricky said he had one hell of a job getting a 4' wide heavy pocket-sprung/memory foam mattress into the boat, he reckons one 6" wider would have been well-nigh impossible...

I'm pretty sure somebody on CWDF posted about a boatbuilder being fined for supplying a new boat without RCR certification -- anyone confirm? But secondhand boats -- nah, never happened, never going to... 😉