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Lorna

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  1. Lorna

    Canal carriers working in the brickfields.

    Hi Tam Thanks for the info of George Beauchamp he was born 1903 at 30 Fisher Row Oxford came from a long line of boatmen off the Oxford Canal before that the family were barge men on the Thames at Abingdon. George married Mary Cartwright 1930 Birmingham when they had the FMC Glasgow. Mary's fathers family came from Droitwich and they worked the salt boats Her mothers family were from Tipton the Yarnalls "my Lot" Lorna
  2. Lorna

    Canal Boatmen 1st World War

    Hi kay Another possible sighting of the elusive Mr Kay 1911 census Birmingham boat "Digby" Joshua Sidwell 23 Master born Runcorn Thomas Key 23 Mate born Stoke Staffs Joseph Sidwell 24 Mate born Wolverhampton Staffs The "Digby" home address was Fazeley Street Birmingham which was Fellows Morton and Claytons Head Office. I've just been speaking to my cousin Lily she has given me some information Thomas Kay had a sister name unknown and they were placed in a children's home in Sandbach Cheshire and they were from Manchester. Lily's mother was Elizabeth Hodson's sister Lorna
  3. Lorna

    Canal Boatmen 1st World War

    Mr Thomas Kay seems to be a very elusive person, I'm afraid I can tell you nothing more about him than that you already know. But I can tell you about the Hodson family. Elizabeth Hodson was the daughter of John Thomas Hodson and Mary Ann Rebecca Theobald she was born in 1890 Both the Hodson's and the Theobald's are long standing boat families. Lorna
  4. Lorna

    Canal Boatmen 1st World War

    Thank you Captain Pegg and Archie 57 for the extra Boatmen. Since I wrote the original list it has grown to 62 boatmen. I can now add Jack Brookes, Joe Pearsall, David Garrett, David Neal and William Humphreys. I already had William Millard and George Walley. Captain Pegg you didn't know the name of William Humphreys Mother Ellen she was born Ellen Bailey 5/1/1858 Middlewich Cheshire daughter of Joseph Bailey and Mary Ann Broadhurst. Ellen Married Henry Theobald 15/10/1876 at Middlewich their daughter Mary Jane born 28/9/1878 Middlewich Cheshire. Henry Theobald was sentenced to 10years hard labour in 1879. Ellen went onto have a whole new family with Richard Humphries. My grandmother Mary Jane Theobald was bought up by Richard Humphries as his daughter because when she married my grandfather William Yarnall 19/9/1902 at Daventry Register Office she married under the name of Humphries so William Humhreys would have been her half brother and Ellen Bailey was my Great Grandmother.
  5. Lorna

    Canal Boatmen 1st World War

    Samuel Withey born 20/8/1904 married Emma Priddey born 1/6/1908 7/4/1928 St Lawrence Long Buckby Northamptonshire Son Christopher Withey born 1929 Daughter Joyce M Withey born 1931
  6. Lorna

    Carriage of Grain by water

    My Grandfather William Yarnall had a regular run from Brentford to Wellingborough carrying grain from 1910 to 1914 he worked for Emanuel Smith Canal Carrier of Brentford. He carried between 52 to 56 tons on 2 boats. I have his log book of the journeys taken during 1910-1914 I know it is not the time line you are writing about but I have records of my great great Grandfather another William Yarnall carrying wheat to Houghton Mill on the River Nene 21/03/1878 these records are from the Nene navigation records.
  7. Lorna

    Greasy Ocker

    1881 census RG11 Piece 2865 Folio 136 page 15 and 16 for Tipton Between 83 Upper Church Lane and 1 Moat Road on page 15 my 3 times great grandfather James Wagstaff aged 81 Boatman and wife Mary living at Fellows Offices. On page 16 you have Fellows Dock. Thought you might be able to pinpoint the area better.
  8. Lorna

    Horse drawn boats vs. Butties.oR,

    Hi Archie Yes we have had this conversation before and yes we have to disagree. I'm sure your friend is convinced that she thinks she is right but I'm afraid she is wrong.
  9. Lorna

    Horse drawn boats vs. Butties.oR,

    example 1911 census Wyken Colliery Basin Boat Richmond Owner Emanuel Smith Master William Yarnall/Yarnell my grandfather Wife Mary Jane grandmother Rose aunt George father Albert uncle Richmond built by Nursers Braunston 1909 moored along side Avon Ellen Humphries Elizabeth Humphries half sisters of my grandmother stated on census form working on canal boat under William Yarnall one horse named Thomas family information From my grandfathers log book of journey's taken between 1910-1918 April 1911 "Coal Wyken Colliery to Kingston 61 tons Boat Registration "Hasty" 319 Brentford Engine Petrol Parrafin Owner Emanuel Smith Master William Yarnall From Canal and River Trust digital archive Ref BW 192/3/2/2/12/1/69 Stoppage at Cowroast Locks Shows my grandparents on motor Hasty butty Richmond Hope this explains your question
  10. Lorna

    Old Working Canal Boats.

    California is not the name of a working boat. It is the name of an area in the Kingswinford Borough
  11. Hi everybody I am an avid reader of this Forum don't often post, but I wondered if anybody has any knowledge of the Boatmen who went to war. I'm in the process of doing a project for The Friends of the Canal Museum Stoke Bruerne on this subject I have so far found 30 names are there any more? William Allcott Enoch Appleton Abel Beechey John Cheshire Frederick Dakin Frederick Charles Dale William Faulkner Harrold Fellows Joseph George Henry Grantham William Grimes John Allen Harrison James Hollinshead Thomas Jackson Richard Jinks James Meese William Henry Millard William Norton Frederick Owen John Samuel Pegg William Postles Albert John Powell Samuel Pritchard Tom Sibley David Stokes Herbert Matthew Townsend George Walley Michael Ward Edward Westwood Walter Joseph Withey I have quite a lot of information on the above. I'm related to a lot of them in one way or another as most boat families are. Lorna York Canal Boat Family Historian
  12. Lorna

    James Family Information

    Hi Alilsomar A little bit more information for you and it might be of interest to other people. Register of Canal Boats Name of Boat Britannia Registered Birmingham 19/2/1879 B C N number 4431 G J C number 9506 Owner John Corbett Stoke Prior Works Worcestershire Master Philip James Horse Boat Carried Salt, Sand and Chalk I'm related to you through the Wenlock Family Lorna
  13. Lorna

    Its Not Just Boats And Spitfires.....

    Good morning everbody after a very long weekend I find myself being discussed on Canal Forum I won't go into the ramblings on "gas Bottles" The reason I and Jenni Glyn were talking to Robin Evans as Alan Fincher has already quoted was to discuss the recognition of the boat families during the World War 2. There have been many articles and books written about the exploits of the "Idle Women" but very little about the boat families during this period.After speaking to many of the remaing people who lived and worked through the war on the canal system we felt it was time to do something about it. Everybody has thier own adgenda with regard to the canals mine of course is historical being a canal boat family historian Thats why Jenni and I were bending Mr Evans ear we start at the top and work down.Watch this space!!!!! By the way the weekend was very successful
  14. Lorna

    Grand Union C C Co Ltd wartime livery

    Hi Pete I didn't take it as a personal attack like you just stating the facts, as I knew who had painted it last, and to Kitman the paint on the inside of Sculptors engine room doors is the same as the rest of the cabin as they were done at the same time and yes it has weathered.
  15. Lorna

    Grand Union C C Co Ltd wartime livery

    I have read with interest all the comments about Sculptors paint work. I'm the person who arranged for it to be repainted it was done by proffesional boat painters to a very high standard and they matched the paint to what was already on there. The only wrong colour was the stern end bands which should have been cream and not white. Time and memory play tricks who rembers what colour, colours change with weathering. I no longer look after Sculptor as I got fed up with all the politics and nit picking and suggested somebody younger should be persuaded to look after her this hasn't happend. I'll stick to researching all my boatman ancestors if they could have read what is sometimes discussed on this forum they would have laughed there heads off. Right got that off me chest I'll disappear into the back ground again.
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