fittie

Cheers everyone. So these boats were ALL fitted with a speed wheel when built and these little lever throttles are from a later period. The engine is a PD2 so that is most likely when she got the little lever throttle. Interesting that Alan was told that these were original because until some one told me the same I thought that a speed wheel was the original but now doubt is creeping in or has crept in. Sorry for being a bit thick but I like using speed wheel and if the leaver thing was the original I would learn to like it. paul ps still not sure though.

Thanks for the picture - I though it should be a speed wheel but my boat has some sort of brass leaver a little like a sash window lock but with a ratchet system that clicks as you move it forward and back. It looks old and is quite worn. It has been suggested that this leaver might be original - I have never seen one like this before. I will try to get a picture of it next time I'm down. I can't see a rotary throttle gear in the picture just what looks like a plate on the bed hole. Mr Hogg if you can stick one of your arrows on it so I can see what you mean ( in the picture that is - I know what one looks like it the flesh if you know what I mean).

I was wondering what would have been the original speed control be for a large Northwich. Does anyone know and or have pictures of what a large Northwich would have been like when launched re speed control? cheers Sorry for the misuse of English. Too many 'be's.

Thanks guys - the one thing I hadn't thought of was a typo...der. I knew someone would have the abswer.

In the G & M there are several dates for the boats eg Lancing has the date 22.07.36 and it also has the date on page 43 (new edition) 38 motors ... 08.08.36 what are these dates? Cheers,

Tony C ( ex curator Stoke B museum) said (25 years ago) that H&W left no drawings for this - but things might have changed ie. some have since come to light. Do you have a side on image of that fab funnel?

Wow! I have the idea that different boat builders might have different ideas on the exact pattern of these things - much the same as the boats. Yarwood's a tad different to HW built boats. It's funny how different they are and how much the same. The other thing is that a lot of my stuff has been in the waterways museum at some time or other and until people bring this stuff to the attention of others we might never know what is and what isn't . Oh, where is the fleet number, 20? If only they had put the numbers on everything!

I think that it is possible that there is lots of stuff without fleet numbers on. This could be because it was a replacement or stolen etc. Where might you look for a number on this? As to the colour - if this was issued as new it would be 5,6,7 years old by the war, why not be a different blue - so, if not GUCC who? What ever it is it is old and original - original what I have no idea. As to fleet numbers - did Buckby cans have numbers, chimneys, pigeons boxes, funnels? I do have Masthead lights some with some without...

This is the funnel that the Waterways museum used to make their drawing and copies over 25 years ago.

Oops trying to do too many things at once - talking to someone in Japan at the same time as talking to my younger daughter. I've stopped now and put it right, sorry!

This was dredged out of the cut on the North Oxford canal near Braunston church by Ernie Kendall. I think it had 2 brass bands but these had been removed before it was chucked in the cut. paul

This I was told many years ago is a GUCC running block in war time colours (?) In real life they look more maroon than red.

I haven't quite got the hang of all this yet - this is the missing image. I've had the bronze from new and is as is - no work done but they are different sizes as well. could you post images of n1 and 3 as I have never seen one. cheers. Did you make the bronze windlasses with the arrow mark? Cheers, Paul

This was found in the GU at MK some many years ago - Has any one any idea about age and has any one seen one stamped before?

Hi Mr Hogg, If my H.NEAL is real then the one that was use a pattern was not a Neal number 2 as the angles are not the same and the throw is longer unless all Mr Neal's windlass were called number 2 regardless of size etc. I have had a good look at Sarah's and she has kindly sent some more pictures with a ruler for scale which helps. So are here other H Neal windlasses ie. N1s or 3s or what? Or is a Harry Neal windlass just a generic name for a certain pattern/ style? Any ideas? Sarah's bronze windlass look a lot like mine but mine have the arrow mark. see my images fittie Thank you - got it!

Just another question - I've been looking at the H NEAL thread and, I hate to ask but, how do you know if it is a H NEAL windlass or not. I can see no markings on the images posted. What should one look for? This is mine found on the Oxford canal while I was working.

bb This is my H NEAL N2 with my old bronze windlass

So Sarah has told me. I just thought that by the look of her bronze windlass it looks a little long but without knowing the length of the throw I can't really comment further. It's quite pretty though!

I have just been talking to Sara re her bronze windlass on eBay and I fail to see what it has to do with a NEALE [sic] No 2 windlass. Is NEALE different to a NEAL N2. If I could put photos on this site I would which might help. RE are bronze windlasses usable - they are with care as they do bend or rather twist if you try to snatch up a stiff paddle - but great to use -nice to the hands if you have 40 locks to do in a day. I use my GU style one only on the Hatton type. My smaller one now rarely sees the light of day. I paid £8 for my large bronze windlass in the mid to late 70s - what an investment! I have 3 Cookes, 2 small eye and one of those has a long throw so is that a "girls" one? Once again if only I knew how to post images. On a different subject I can see what people mean re the painted watering can and at £10.50 good value and I think there is an air of RH about it. I have a RH painted Buckby can that belonged to Mr Bray and his son gave me a GUCC steamer funnel - those were the days! Chrome windlasses were all the rage at Braunston in the late 60s to 70s - someone at Bottom Lock had a mate that could get it done for a small fee - talking to a friend of mine on the subject of windlasses last summer said he wished he had left all his windlasses well alone.

David. Could you give me your e-mail address so I can send you the pictures. cheers paul

are you still looking for images of Cookes windlasses etc...I have 3, 2 x small eye and 1 large eye. the small eyed windlasses are of different throws. cheers, paul