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  1. Does anyone have a suggestion for the best (cheapest) way to get a CRT licence under the following circumstances? I don't currently have a narrowboat, a mooring or a licence but am buying a boat in the next couple of weeks before the end of October. I need to move the boat via the Trent & Mersea canal to a winter mooring at Sawley, it will be moored at Sawley for the winter and then probably for at least part of the summer while I do some local cruising. My winter mooring contract starts on the 1st November. Sawley have informed me that I do need a licence even if I'm moored there and don't go out onto the canal, so I'm looking at a 12 month licence. As I understand things, I can have a 'Rivers Only' 'Home Mooring' licence when I'm at Sawley but what is the cheapest way to licence my boat from the T&M onto the Trent? Suggestions Welcome.
  2. In 2020, CRT gave licence holders an extra month on their annual licence following complaints about boating being virtually prohibited during lockdown. One of my boat licences renewed on 1st March every year so I wasn't due the extra month until 2021. However, licence fees were due to increase from 1st April. Had I accepted the extra month, I would have had to pay for two years' increases in one go and then my annual renewal at the new rates would always happen 11 months sooner. Therefore, I telephoned CRT and asked if I could continue to renew my licence from 1st March. They agreed but insisted on giving me a discount of 8.33% to represent the free month I had not claimed. In 2022, my renewal invitation included a discount of 8.33%! I telephoned CRT and agreed to accept it this time because it would have cost them more to amend my renewal amount invoice. I was assured that no-one else was receiving a similar repeated discount and that my account would be updated before the next renewal. Unfortunately, my 2023 licence renewal invitation still featured a goodwill discount of 8.33%. However, I had decided to sell that boat so I only renewed the licence for six months for which I paid the undiscounted fee. Fortuitously the boat sale concluded on the last day of that licence. Several weeks after the boat had been sold and a licence taken out by the new owner, I had a call from CRT about the credit on my account! I accepted the payment and donated it to a different waterways charity.
  3. Hi, I am looking for some advice as a lot of the research I have been doing it still slightly confusing. We are buying a narrow boat as a weekend retreat, holiday home if you like, we will still be living in our “brick and mortar home” As we are not going to live in the boat full time and it’s for leisure only, will we be able to moore up anywhere and leave it and then move it within 14 days or will we have to buy / rent a permanent mooring and this has to be the place we leave it when it’s not being used during the week? Do we get any kind of discount as it would only be an ongoing leisure mooring and not a mooring where we would live full time? Thank you
  4. Canal and River Trust Council Meeting March 2018 The following is my report - I have used some notes from Andy Tidy’s report (mostly the finances as he explains it better than I could) As these are my recollections from notes they are not designed as an exact record and are not minutes. Therefore , they should not be accepted as such. We were invited to York this year. Owing to constraints of dialysis, I opted to do a long day - getting up at 4.45am, getting a train at 6am and arriving at York at 8.15am, where we were met by two young ladies from the Leeds Office with a sign and everything. Once everyone that was coming by train arrived, it was a short stroll to the bus taking us the 6 miles to Naburn Lock - a fascinating place - Kenny, the Lock keeper has been there over 30 years - his cottage is flooded on average 5 times a year and he remains remarkably sanguine about this fact. It is a beautiful place and although the Trust operate the navigation of the River Ouse, the only land the Trust own is the island, stables and lock-keepers cottage, 6 miles outside York. There is a caravan park next door (a good catchment area) and the river cruises start and return here taking passengers into York - the challenge now for the Trust is to make the island at Naburn Locks a tourist destination and teaching place, to this end they are redeveloping the old wharf offices and making them flood resistant, this entails stripping plaster off walls and pitting drain holes in the floors. It was a lovely morning - sunny and the river had subsided enough for our cruise to happen. It is the only real chance you get to meet other council members and Trustees, much “networking”. We arrived at the pier and a short walk to the Yorkshire Museum through the gardens ahead of the showers. The Council meeting ran from 11.30am to 4.30pm with a short break for lunch. There is always a dinner in the evenings for the Trustees and local businessmen and councillors - a chance to drum up funding opportunities for both the local Waterway area and the Trust nationally. The day is normally a series of presentations on what the Trust has been doing by senior managers and this was no different really - a slight emphasis on looking forward and as there are only two meetings a year - the other is in September and the morning is the Public Meeting., so this is the longest meeting. I could not get to Bath last year as I had dialysis that day; so this was the first meeting I had been to since the first meeting in Liverpool two years ago. Allan Leighton opened the meeting and then we had Richard Parry’s report with him reporting the following: towpath satisfaction at 91% although awareness that the Trust maintains the towpath is only at 36% (a lot of people believe are local government operated and maintained), the target was 40%, there are 23,500 Friends of the Trust. The Trust had a turnover of £200m and a small surplus of £800k. Income included a £2.7m grant from the Postcode Lottery ( most of which has been spent on the Marple Flight and Aqueduct). Income was higher than budgeted for.  A recent High Court Judgement in the Trust’s favour in the Thames Water -v- CRT, which may mean additional income in the future. Planned 240 winter stoppages and 180 lock gates replaced, quadrants on the Eastern side of the Huddersfield had to be replaced due to subsidence. Eight open days (2 had to be cancelled due to the snow) and attracted 15,000 visitors. Safe guarding, especially in view of recent revelations in other charities, they have procedures and processes in place for visitors, volunteers and staff. New regional structure, due to be in place on the 4 June, as 18 posts of the 60 posts (reduced from 78) still have to be filled, only 27 of these new managerial posts are Senior, with the Regional Directors in place in April. No gender pay gap exists within the Trust Main gender pay is -3.6% and Median pay Gap = -13.8% Julie Sharman, the new Chief Operating Officer, reported on the following River Lea Navigation at Pyms Brook - a tanker full of oil was illegally dumped in the brook and has been very difficult to clear up and has resulted in a 5 week stoppage; there is an ongoing police and EA investigation the recent drowning in Manchester and the temporary barrier erected to prevent people crossing the lock across the lock gates rather than the bridge 30 feet away Middlewich Breach, which although not as big as Dutton in 2012 has challenges regarding access - fortunately, there was no damage to houses and they have set up a Just Giving Page. As with all unplanned stoppages this diverts contingencies and means planned works are put further back on the plan. Business Plan 2018-19 Focus is on Caring For the Waterways, Sustaining Waterways and moving to becoming to a Waterway and Wellbeing Trust; to extend its aims to a wider audience. The quality of contractors used is being closely scrutinised following well known issues with Carillion etc. The EA transfer now appears unlikely. BWML is seen as a non core operation and a buyer is being sought. £8.4m to be spent on dredging, £20.6m on operational (culverts, aqueducts etc) Dame Jenny Abramsky - appointments committee chair Terms of Reference amended to reflect the new Regional Advisory Boards and recruitment of chairs is under-way in the 6 regions with definition of the minimum and maximum number of seats on regional committees. Following the departure of some experienced trustees replacements are being sought National Council Review Group discussions took place and concluded that a Council Member handbook would be of benefit, defining what a council member does and more importantly doesn’t do, how its is done and how best to maximise the influence membership offers. The trust should look at a way of partial refreshment of members rather then everything en masse Should clarify the roles of appointed and elected council members Maybe the use of smaller sub groups, such as the boaters reps meeting would be beneficial Long Term Debt (these are Andy Tidy’s notes, as his explanation is brilliant) Stuart Mills (Chief Investment Officer and Sandra Kelly (Finance Director) At its inception it was agreed that the Trust should carry some debt, initially via a £25m revolving credit line upped to £50m in 2016. This debt was consolidated in a private bond placement of £150m at the end of 2017. This debt is agreed over a 30 year term at less than 3% in offering stability. The money is invested in the Trust's investment portfolio of which property is making 10.8% and non property 9%. In effect the trust is borrowing cheaply based on its asset base and inherent strength, investing the money is assets which are earning a return which is higher than the financing costs and the difference (called arbitrage) is profit applied to the trusts wider operations. (Andy comment 1. Don’t get blinded by this high finance stuff. In simple terms the trust owns investment assets of £800m which is an endowment providing income. They see an opportunity to make more money from this source and are borrowing some long term money to buy more commercial property. Its a bit like a glorified "buy to let" where you use the value of your home to support a cheap second mortgage to buy another property which you then let out.) The private placement was to a number of well known North American and European institutions which, we were assured, do not carry reputational risks. (Andy's comment - I am comfortable with this overall arrangement which appears prudent and well stress tested, however, as with personal debt, a bit is fine but one can overdo things. The Trustees assured us that they have no current intention of any further placements beyond £150m and in my view any further increase in long term debt should be discussed before it is entered into) Licensing John Horsfall (Interim Head of Boating) 32,000 leisure licenses and 1,000 business licenses covering 32,000 craft, generating £27m of income He did say boaters should be major advocates for the Trust The rules covering licensing are within the BW Act of 1995, and there has been a dramatic increase in the number of boats used as dwelling since the act was passed, particularly in the London and K&A. (My comment - the majority recently are boats without a home mooring - this is partly choice but also because of a general lack of permanent moorings in these areas) John made mention of the choice that people make to live in these areas - London Mooring Strategy is still to be issued. The recent review is about fairness, not income generation. With this goal in mind they have opted t give 2.5% discount to all those paying DD whether annually or monthly. Consultation elicited 11,000 responses and an overriding desire was to see area included in the calculation; however, they decided against area as there would have been those who ended up paying a greater fee. The announcement has so far generated 15 to 20 complaints. All changes are being phased in. Some areas such as discounts such as Electric, Historic and areas of high demand and are subject to further ongoing review to ensure that they deliver the desired outcomes. Brand Update Nicky Wakeford Brand awareness has been growing and has risen from 30% in April 2016 to 36% today (the target was 40% for this year) The cascade of engagement is : Beneficiary (say towpath user) to Follower (Social media) to Friend and then Volunteer. The slower than expected growth in public awareness is a major issue as it is inextricably linked with the bid for further government grant funding when the existing package expires. Focus groups were convened to identify the key message needed. Well Being emerged as the key message the Trust are not communicating - the benefits of being able to spend time beside water which has a proven link with people’s emotional and physical wellbeing. The resulting strapline is "making life better by water". This altered strapline will be accompanied by a change of logo, a circle shape in blue and green to give a better fit on towpath and digitally; they wouldn’t show us the new logo but it will be launched on 21 May with all web based screens changing that day, and everything else replaced as they roll out (I have subsequently discovered offices have not been ordering headed paper in preparation) and it will be on a 2 to 3 year roll out The cost is from within the existing Marketing budget and we are assured that this exercise has not involved expensive consultancies; the main cost being a graphic designer for the new logo. My comment - I have to say I had more messages concerning this than anything else - particularly as the breach and lock closure have closed both the Cheshire and Four Counties Ring in the North. So I asked on the behalf of boaters - why now? Why not tell us the cost? Nicky responded that it was within the existing marketing budget with no extra funds going towards it, Time marches on and with the government grant coming to the end of its term the Trust needs to raise its profile - it is the 18th largest but the Woodland Trust is better know than them and without the government grant there would be a 25% income gap which cannot be filled with the existing other income strands. So in order that they can maintain the waterways into the future both online and towpath presence needs to be increased, so that the government can see the benefits of supporting the waterways as a health benefit for the wider land based communities in cleaning the air in urban areas and the transportation of both water and goods. I have to say I understand the need for increasing awareness but to announce into a vacuum was not the smartest move in my humble opinion. All we have is that it is modern and will influence people who are not influenced now. The meeting then closed - the annual meeting is in Birmingham in September and there are Boaters’ Rep Meetings in the interim, so please get in touch with any comments, questions I can pass on.
  5. From Narrow Boat World. http://www.narrowboatworld.com/index.php/news-flash/9766-illegally-moored-boaters-will-be-evicted Illegally moored boaters will be evicted Wednesday, 22 March 2017 13:50 RESIDENT boaters on the Cam in Cambridge are to be evicted from the waterway if they do not have a legal mooring on the river and no licence. Last year there was jubilation, particularly by members of the National Bargee Travellers Association (NBTA) when they were assured, after taking to the streets and protesting, that the result of a consultation by Cambridge City Council assured boaters that they would be allowed to stay. ('Bargees' take on Cambridge City Council.) Acted as a magnet But then the outcome was obvious—it acted as a magnet to more and more boats who proceeded to moor all along the river banks causing problems, all without any mooring rights and some even without licences. At a recent council meeting it was heard that there was a long list for mooring on the river, and some new ones will be provided, but fees are set to be increased and that it was important to regulate the ever increasing number of boats with licences, and none with licences will be made homeless but no such guarantee could be given for those without. Charged on their length A further method of regulating moorings is that in future the single occupancy would be removed and boats will now be charged on their length. But it was stated at the meeting that new spaces have been found for other moorings that are safe and a good compromise with more services in the future, but is has to be paid for, and it is not fair that the local tax payer picks it up. Needless to say there has been another demonstration by the those who desire to moor their boats on the Cam in Cambridge, but without paying.
  6. We purchased a 30 day explorer licence for the canal system last September. Our boat is kept on the River Thames and licenced yearly through the Environment Agency. As we are in Oxford, we knew we would be on the canals for a couple of weeks at the minimum to a months time at maximum in the year up to September 2017. The explorer licence is perfect for us. What is not so perfect is being reported to the CRT as being unlicenced. When I put my own number through the checker, sure enough, the system does not recognise the number and it asks me to fill in the details of where this boat was sighted. Me being me, I have reported myself and in the commentary section, cut and pasted the copy of the licence email they sent to me when we bought the licence last September. This is the first we are using the licence. A gentleman with a clipboard who looked official but stated he was not employed by CRT knocked on our boat to ask about our licence. I showed the emails and he looked at me like I had an elbow growing out of my forehead and told me I should get in touch with CRT or I would keep having this problem. 1. Has anyone else experienced this. 2. Are there really people who are not being paid, running around checking everyones licences and then when shown proof of one, looking at you like you are making the whole thing up. Am I obliged to explain myself to these people. 3. How can it possibly be that a number that CRT gave me and is on the plates they sent and the licence I paid for, not recognised by their system. Frustrated Alison
  7. Looking at the CRT 2013 financial figures I noted that Boat licence and mooring income was £26.4m which represented 22% of the annual income and paid for 27% of the CRT 2013 costs. CRT actually earned more from investment income and the DEFRA grant (which will eventually cease). So whilst boaters make a significant contribution they are not the largest contributor are appear to be subsidized. After several wet winters I was thinking that the government couldn’t allow the canal network to fall into disuse because it was essential for flood relief. Then I realised the canals were built to retain water rather than release it. It would appear that the government could allow a gradual closure of the network where the only adverse impact would be on the boaters. The ‘non navigable’ canals could be left for non-boating recreation. So if the network is to be saved for future boating then where will the income come from? As the boaters are the group most at risk it is possible the annual licence will significantly increase. For example; the loss of the DEFRA grant may have to be recovered from boaters. This would mean a required increase in boater revenue from £26.4m to £55.7m. With 33,227 boats currently licenced it means an annual licence will cost on average £1676 at 2013 rates. CRT Income 2013 Total 122.1m Investment Income 31.1m DEFRA Grant 29.3m Boat Licence & Mooring 26.4m Utilities 17.4m Maintenance Income 10.4m BWML 5.2m Other sources 1.4m Donations 0.9m CRT Expenditure Total 96.1m Maintenance & minor repairs 17.2m Major works 14.5 Support costs 10.4m Operational building 10.2m Vegetation & waste 10.1m Customer Service 7.8m Technical & Engineering 6.9m Restoration 5.9m Training 5.7m Other 4.2m Dredging 3.3m Museum & attractions 1.9m
  8. Hi. NBs seem to carry either a 'registered at' (eg. Watford) signifier, with a registration number, and this is more often than not, it seems to me, painted on the upper superstructure near the stern, and/or a 'home name' under or near the boat name, (eg. 'Rambling Rose', Watford), which could be anywhere, and in several places, too. Could someone please explain the differences and the rules? Woxbrigge nb (saving hard!)
  9. Does anyone with a knowledge of banking have a view on the security aspects of this? We bought the boat last year, with a licence until 31 Mar 2014. I've just applied to renew. You have to do it on the paper form if you have not held a licence before. (This would have been nice to know in advance, because when the the online system rejected my customer number etc I spent ages re-entering and re-entering the numbers reeeeeeaaaaaaallllllly carefully, before I rang them up). So I filled in the paper form. As part of the credit/debit card details you have to supply the three-letter security code from the back of the card. After I sent it off, it suddenly occurred to me that putting the security code on a posted form is very insecure. Isn't that code meant to be the strongest part of the security of a card transaction? If the letter goes astray, that form now has ALL the details needed to empty my bank account via fraudulent online purchases. (I don't mind giving the security code in a proper secure online system, because the clever encryption stuff will stop eavesdroppers from reading it). I really think CaRT should NOT ask for it on a paper form intended to be posted. Any banking experts agree with me?
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