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i do feel for the brokers really i do i think its very hard to get out of your chair get a key from a hook grunt `over there` then manage to raise your arm and point in a direction you thought it was then all the effort needs a sit down again, then theres the effort of saying when you come back i dont think they will accept it ill ring them later and somehow forget to get back to you

its not just builders that need to update brokerages should do this daily dunno how many times ive rung up and theve said thats sold 6 months ago

i must be unlucky then getting the ones who always try it on i dont mind paying a fair price but when the boat needs new elecs and a refit or other major work then hey cmon are you going to trust a broker (who normaly have a chandlers attached) then they lose the buisness false economy so cmon brokers get ya act together think long term not sort term in ya pocket profit

theres lived in and used and thats ok i understand that but why do brokers expect you to pay so much for crap, i dont mind doing work on it but hey cmon there having a laugh thats wat im talking about wats the point in telling you lies when they know your getting a survey done

is it just me or am i setting my sights to high looking at second hand boats and expecting too much like no stinky smells, electrics that work, pictures that are current on brokers websites and not taken 10 years ago when stuff was new (false advertising or wat) boats advertised as ready to go to find that the engine needs repairing maybe im being to picky and want to much for my money after all thousands of hard earned pounds grow on trees

looks like i need a few plans for internal fit out stoll cant find a reasonable second hand boat any one got any or a full list of equipment to start me off

thanks will look at that

went to see cheshire narrowboats today the guy chris was ok but seemed to want to standardise wat i wanted, i may look again here the only thing i thought odd was no full length rubbing straif they seemed solid enought though

mmmmmm death doom and gloom then, i live in a house and the gas, electic, water and rates come to three times that its a expensive as you make it if you maintain on the go i reckon its a hell of a lot cheaper to live afloat and also you get the benefit of doing it. moan and groan is wat i hear all the time give it a go im going to

good advice thanks

so to get back to it anyone bought a cheshire narrowboats boat from lymm

yea well said

can you tell me which ones these are please i will make a special visit, i have been to a few now and mostly i feel that the brokers are putting to high a price on the boats

yea thats wat im looking at a sailaway lined with the elecs and plumbing in, just a note if it took you two years wat were you doing i know it takes time but when all is said and done you only go as fast as you want to. this by the way is for the camper up the way

its nice to know its not just me, wat problems did you find fitting out have you a blog

im now fed up with going round looking at boats that are on brokerage and being expected to pay extreme prices for pieces of basicaly junk, if you went to buy a second hand car in the condition some of these boats were in youd laugh your socks of, i dont mind paying wat its worth but hey for boats that need a refit smell of damp and need a lot of work brokerages are putting prices up that are stupid even in these times. so i think unless in the next couple of weeks i can find a reasonable boat im going down the sailaway route and would like to know if anyone has bought from cheshire narrow boats in lymm

interesting and ahem see wat ya mean den did gibbo fit one then and did it work

yea kicked it off den

axiom propeller are they worth the money and do they work reports say that they are efficiant and cut down fuel rudder shake and vibration noise anyone got one

took me a couple of months in cheshire but that was by luck, start now and pay the fees to secure it

just get an unsecured personal loan if you are thinking of finance then you know every month what your paying