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Thanks Liam, looks like someone is at least trying to protect it.

I'm sorry to hear that Pete, I had a brief conversation with Jim in 2016 & we had hoped my parents could meet up with him for a chat but it never happened. I'll see what I can get from them in the next few weeks/months & be in touch. Thanks again for the information so far.

Thanks Sue, Dave and Pete, I think I'm off track on Victoria Rose, it was Virginia Rose but still VR by the time my parents bought her. My parents were the couple who bought the boat from Jo Gilbert or Jim Marshall at Charity Docks in the early/mid 70's. They are here with me now and are enjoying the news on VR. When I first asked about the slide show you mention, Pete, they said not them but they're remembering more & that might have been my mum you spoke to as they are indeed Reading based. They say the young couple they sold sold it to talked about going to London and joining up with a group of similar boats, so that ties in and I seem to remember around that time Thames boat licences were based on name, so it may well have picked up the II of V.R.II as a result, but regardless of that it sounds like the same boat. As does Charity Dock & Jo Gilbert tie in. It wasn't an era my parents took many pictures but I think they have one or two, which should include the then cabin and also a file which they'd be happy to do a write up on they say, if it's of interest to anyone or the current owners if anyone knows them?? I posted on the Facebook page and the opinion is that it is the Butty Byfield. https://hnbc.org.uk/boats/byfield?fbclid=IwAR1XYJFrrGztJSPRF8egllGQEvz1s_3-9e3f6tFtfa2wXkSOxsNNWzk5neU If anyone wants to pass my details to the current owner, & if they're interested please feel free to DM me. Thank you all again, Nic

Oh my Lord, you said "you turn at X" which is not the winding point (fact) nor a considerate place to turn in my opinion, and certainly damaging to the soft bank. People who read that will probably also read my post that gives my opinion, that this could be damaging and that it's not a considerate place to turn, plus hopefully be helped by my pointing out that there is a much easier option (as did others). You then suggested I take it up with EA..... seriously? There's no "objective". My point has nothing to do with IWA, you were simply incorrect in your interpretation of the winding point or at the very least, seemed to be advising people to turn where you did. I'm not trying to change the world here. If people want to run the risk of going aground to tick off a list, no problem. If people want to be inconsiderate that's their privilege and I'm sure life will return the favour to them. People will make their own choices, if they read it, they read it, if they don't, they don't. Good night.

The people who read your post will & my post was in answer to that. I wasn't being rude, I just don't agree with you in your choice of turning point or for that matter, that raising it with EA would be more effective than suggesting easier options, that's all.

Sincere apologies Mike, I'm new to the forum & finding my way around. It was john6767 who said he turned there, and I mistakenly looked at his picture which you "quoted" so that's entirely my error Hope no offence caused by my mistake. The boats moored in the field may be permanent moorings but would face the same challenges as anyone in turning, but because they moor there they don't have the easy option. I'm involved with the restoration of the Thames & Severn (and have been in many others), live locally & I know the area very well. I have also been boating since I was 4yo thanks to my parents

@john6767. If you want to ignore people pointing out more considerate options of making life easy for yourself and also which won't damage someone's property, then I am sure neither anyone pointing it out nicely to you nor their "going to the authorities" will make a blind bit of difference. IF EA states "the Round House" which you "believe", then I very much doubt they intended it as anything other than an extremely arbitrary description for the benefit of ease. The FACT is, the Round House is not on the Thames. Maybe you should contact the navigation authority to point this out! ? So nit pick all you like but it is a boaters decision if to use the winding point, or if it is obstructed (as this one is), to use other points which won't disadvantage or inconvenience other people, of course if someone is "determined" enough then they'll try & turn wherever they please despite that. I suspect "most" boaters (95%), including I guess Mike Todd, others and definitely myself, would prefer not to upset other people or cause damage once they realise they potentially are or it's politely pointed out.... but not all. I'm just pointing out the really easy solution for anyone, which is available near the marina, one which doesn't risk you seriously running aground and/or damaging someone's property. The Winding point "near" the Round House (and you can naturally assume where EA expect you to consider the limit for large motorised craft) is near where the River Coln meets the Thames (that doesn't mean you can't try and go further as the OP is asking) but it is not in the entrance of the Thames & Severn Canal (which is not even part of "The Thames") and not up The River Coln (you'll definitely go aground there), but make of it what you will, I doubt anything anyone else politely points out to you will make any difference

Mike Todd & others, please don't try and turn or nose into the entrance of the Thames & Severn Canal (next to the Roundhouse in pics above/near the broken concrete bridge footing (wall)) :) That's someone's home and garden, the banks are already being seriously broken down by wash/ramming boats. It's unfair to expect a homeowner to be disadvantaged by the proper winding point downstream having worsening shallows opposite. The best place to turn is near Lechlade Marina above Ha'penny Bridge where the Thames is wide & deep. The shallows near the Roundhouse get worse every year and it's sometimes a more than daily event people get stuck there in season, even experienced boaters.