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Darrenroberts

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  1. the wooden top didn't look bad when it was on slip a few weeks ago bit of patching in round the gunnel maybe..... nice boat tho
  2. prefect cheers mate thanks again for all your help
  3. sorry yeh back bullhead...... I've marked everything up now and its looking/ feeling right. The only bit iam worried about now is the cabin porthole positioning. So far I've got these measurements.. gunnel top to porthole center at 16 3/4 (same as the engine ole) handrail top edge to porthole center at 19" rear bulkhead to porthole center at 46 1/2" engine ole bulkhead to porthole center at 52" (cabin hight from gunnel to handrail top is 39" at rear bulkhead) Dose that sound there or there abuts to you ? Cheers Darren
  4. Hi there Steve this is brilliant information, thank you. I've just cross referenced you positions with the drawing I've been working on and there nearly bang on. Roger Farrington is currently fabricating the cabin steel work using the timber cabin measurements of Aldgate. The old cabin was to far gone to be saved not to mention totally out in a lot of critical areas, so it made more sense to start again. I've been measuring back from the rear bulkhead rivets too, are you measurements from the centers of those or the rear most edge? I removed the old boatman's cabin (as apposed to smashing it out) just to make my life easier when constructing the new one as I hope I can use some of the sections to template off or at least make scribing quicker. Internally I have a blank canvas at this stage. I fully intend to construct the new boatman's as close to how the original would have been as I can, including tapering bed "ole" my cabin drawings specify the range shelf dimensions to accommodate a 24" range, off the top of my head (ill have to double check that) I am defiantly committed tapered hatch as well after chalking up the collar position. Thanks again for you measurements, That's really helpful and perfect timing as iam hoping to mark the final positions for cutting out tomorrow morning. Cheers, Darren
  5. Hi guys, I was wondering if any one out there could help me with some key measurements for Bristol's new back cabin. I am looking for specs for the positioning of the following parts; Bulls eye mushroom vent chimney coller letter box vents. hatch lid length and width The new hatch will be a steel construction, am unsure yet about replicating the tapered fit but a rough length would be great. Any help with the above would be greatly appreciated Thanks Darren
  6. Thanks for all the responses guys this is really useful for me. cheers
  7. Hi guys, dose any one know where I could get hold of some boatman's cabin drawings for a big Woolwich motor? the Laurence Hogg website doesn't appear to work any more. thanks in advance
  8. cheers for the feed back guys, i've submitted a application covering all the points discussed here followed by some photographs..... ill wait and see but its safe to say its a long shot at best..... ill keep you posted
  9. yeh they get very fussy re aesthetics these days. it seams totally acceptable for a major rebuild along as you leave the hold open lol. i would of thought u being full length that would easily qualify. Iam enquiring only because my insurance company are really laying it on thick this year as my boats turning 125 year old so iam paying above odds for invasive tests every 5 mins but she's not recognized by the trust which is funny. Iam curious which old boats out there make the cut.....post cut haha
  10. Hi guys am on a bit of a long shot mission here but...... hey times are tough. Dose any one own or formally owned a bcn day boat, motorized or shorted, that benefited from the CRTs historic discount license? I Know there criteria is very fussy re cabin extensions. Any feed back would be great thanks. Darren
  11. Cheers black rose, av got two more portholes to install then I’ll foam all 4 in the same hit, just in case the tube gunks up. I’ll post the results shortly 👍🏻
  12. Hi there, no it’s not the gun system it comes with a long tube attached av add a bit of a practice and it’s not to hard to build it up in thin layers but you do have to be carful not to blast to much in at once. Oh and it’s definitely worth masking off well too.
  13. I guess that’s why there is a layer of roofing felt in between the two layers? Well the cabin has been like that since the 80s and looks fine when I took a section of it out to have a look
  14. Ok great thanks I’ll continue researching To see if any of the others have better data sheets 👍🏻
  15. Hi there the top half (gunnel to roof) has no insulation. It’s a 25mm tongue and groove cabin with some sort of ash felt wrap and then the steel cabin wrapped over the top. Screwfix sent been very helpful, and the technical sheet from soudal dosnt say open or closed. Only info is used for sound and thermal insulation plus gap filling. The sunlight shouldn’t be a problem as I’ll slot in a porthole liner effectively seeking the foam in darkness between the wood and steel. I just really want to make sure no condensation will form down there as it will be trapped. I’ll check if the silicone tho thanks.
  16. Hi guys u have a small gap all the way around my portholes where, by way of construction the steel cabin has been welded over the top of a timber cabin. Iam concerned about winter condensation running down the inside of the cabin sides and collecting on the gunnel between the wood and the steel. I want to insulate the porthole gap with a small amount spray foam and was wondering if SOUDAL GENIUS INSULATION FOAM from Screwfix would be suitable? Anybody used this stuff before? It’s says it’s useful for sound and thermal insulation, but I remember reading some where that boat spray foams need to be closed cell? Any help would be great thanks
  17. Is the mark the visual pastiche of what it used to look like? I don’t see how altering or reducing a Boats length would mean it’s history has now ended, as it still exists. What happens to those vessels that get cut in half, made into two then get put back together or lengthend again using sympathetic techniques....dose said boat come back to life in terms of the history books? ??‍♂️...... or maybe i have a chip as I don’t know where the back of my boat is ?
  18. I mean, I’ve seen a few well turned boats in images from the 80s/90s that are in stark contrast to how they are at present. I know 30 years is a significant amount of time but you would have thought at least some one at some point during that time might of had a quick whip round with a paint brush ?
  19. Bingo that’s what I was after, thanks Tim ?
  20. It’s crazzy how Boats deteriorate that badly in a relatively short space of time
  21. Cheers Derek, yeh I didn’t find the BCN society website very useful. And the small day boat section of hnbc is pretty much the only photographic reference I’ve come across in one place. There has been verious discussions come up on here about specific BCN boats, but I thought it may be useful if eaither owners or other interested party’s began a discusssion in one place just like the historic boats for sale thread. There are loads out there but they seam to get over looked some what (Maybe due to lack of ID) but from my own experience I always get questions asked by passing boats almost in a daily basis and I don’t really have anything else to say other than, yeh she’s old ?
  22. Hi all is there a thread specifically for BCN day boats/ joeys/ unknown but defiantly old Boats? I see a lot of the history threads discussing and celebrating the gauged, photograph and generally well documented motors and buttys out there ( and rightly so) but is there a specific place dedicated to the old gals still out there on the network.....in what ever form??
  23. Thanks for all the intel guys, iam als hearing reports of higher traffic and an impending water shortage down that way too ? all in all sounds like a risky trip to say the least, gunna head out to kings Langley and get some eyes on what’s going on there. Thanks again ?
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