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Can someone tell me how to gain access to the River Weaver from Runcorn, on a 58ft NB and plan to sail east to the Anderson Lift, tx
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Hacked prop and nothing fouling and seems very secure
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1 minute ago, Tony Brooks said:
I agree but wonder if the so called partial vacuum was the hatch clinging to the rubber seal. Mine often needed a good tug to lift it and then it was Heavey to pull up.
Could hear the air gushing in but seal was strong
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2 minutes ago, Machpoint005 said:
On the other hand perhaps it's not complete nonsense - thanks Tony!
It occurred to me though after posting that if there is a partial vaccuum under the hatch, it is probably screwed down!
Bit confused Re this, sorry
5 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said:If so that might be the leak in the other topic.
As I said, I had to prise the weed hatch open to ease the vacuum, def no water coming in thru there
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3 minutes ago, twbm said:
Odd. I guess you've no leak in through the stern gland else you'd have mentioned it. The vacuum might be a distraction - are all the propshaft mountings / bearing secure and running sweet? Is the prop securing nut tight?
Edit - possibly still worth checking but matty knows more than I do for sure.
Checked all nuts etc and all seems ok. Did have a leaky stern gland but a small turn of the two bolts sorted that
Just now, Machpoint005 said:Isn't this the same boat on which we had the stern gland question recently, and are the two problems connected (other than in the obvious way)?
Same boat, don’t think they’re connected?
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Just now, matty40s said:
Has your boat just been blacked?? It sounds like the gap between the uxter plate and the cavitation plate has become almost sealed....and a vacuum is being generated by the prop water passing under it.
Its a new boat, just developed it after 40 hrs, it’s annoying more than anything. Don’t know what a cavitation or uxter plates are
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At the southern end of the Rochdale, do the above 2 location allow over night mooring. Are they privately owned?
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Boat has started to develop an annoying grinding/ cavitation noise from the weed hatch. If I rev up then decrease revs it goes. I assume it’s air in the weed hatch? When I lifted the hatch there was a great vacuum in there and I had to prise the hatch up slightly and air gushed in for a out 10 seconds then I was able to lift it.
Any ideas how to address this?
Beta 43 with PRM 150 gearbox, Colecraft hull
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On 31/07/2020 at 15:02, ditchcrawler said:
Could that be where the water in the bilge came from
Think you’re right!
Trying to contact Dave who kindly met me on the Rochdale yesterday Re this, can he pm me please
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37 minutes ago, Dr Bob said:
That's now 3 problems the OP has posted with a brand new boat. The toilet (which turned into a water pump and PRV issue), the water/oil in engine bilge and now the stern gland.
Why on earth doesnt the OP ring up Colecraft and get them to sort it? It is a brand new boat (upwards of £100,000!). We have just bought one from Aqualine and I expect them to sort problems especially a drip every 10 secs from a stern gland that looks like it has no packing. If the OP tries to do any changes by himself ...ie new water pump because of a toilet issue, or changing the packing on a stern gland, then he could risk loosing the warranty on those bits.
Colecraft are one of the best builders and will certainly sort out your teething issues. Get Colecraft to come out and sort out the stern gland. Rain into the engine bilge might be worth mentioning to them if a few of the drains have been blocked during manufacture....some boat builders have been known to accidentally fill drain holes with filler and paint during the build process!
Yep, I’ll call Colecraft
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6 hours ago, Tony Brooks said:
For goodness sake send a photo - it may not need daily greasing!
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25 minutes ago, system 4-50 said:
You keep referring to it as singular. There are 2 nuts that should normally be tightened equally as above. Are you adjusting the right thing(s)?
Yes adjusted both nuts equally
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New boat, 35 hrs on engine. There’s a drip about every 10 seconds from the stern gland. Putting more grease in via the plunger reduces it slightly. I have read previous posts re tightening the nut on the gland, did that for 1/4 of a turn made no difference. Think I have to tighten it further but how far? Till it stops? Wanted to get advice before I plough on with my spanner. Does it do any damage with water dripping through it?
what happens it I over tighten?
see photo
many tx
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5 minutes ago, dmr said:
New islington, Manchester.
Not many services on the Rochdale.
.............Dave
Aware of that tx
Just now, umpire111 said:Aware of that tx
Thought new Islington was closed?
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Now in Todmorden heading west, can anyone tell me where the next pump out is?
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19 minutes ago, Dr Bob said:
Wait for the rain on Monday / Tuesday.
Trying to cheer me up? My next post will show my ignorance re the greasing of a stern gland.
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Mopped up all discharge in engine bilge and to much relief none seems to have appeared today. Just hoping it’s 2hen it was filled...or a freak?. Tx for all responses, much appreciated
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6 minutes ago, TheBiscuits said:
Ask @dmr to have a look when you pass him ...
RE: list of questions. We have learned not to assume any level of knowledge when questions are asked on here. Yours seems fine, so we don't need to cover all the basics now!
Is your oil filter tight enough?
Good point, will check tmrw but keeping checking level everyday and not going down
11 minutes ago, Dr Bob said:On our new Barrus shire 45 it 25 hrs for the first gear box oil and 50 hours for engine oil and oil filter, then 250 hrs. Likely the Beta 43 is the same.
Let's rule out water from the cauliflower PRV. Is there a hole for water to flow from the main bilge into the engine bilge and did the water appear under the engine before or after the PRV event?
No it appeared under the stern gland bilge further towards the stern
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Wow, try and answer questions pose,:
1. The oily water is in the bilge under the engine
2. Still mopping up with pet pads but it appears to be clean not black but
3. Only done 30 hours so all oil clean
4. Have changed gearbox oil after 25 hr
5. Have topped up header reservoir but the water from there has a blue tinge due to antifreeze so don’t thinks it’s that
6. All overflows go into bilge under stern gland not the engine one where oily water is
7. Now in Hebden Bridge on Rochdale heading west
8. Have had rain whilst out but that doesn’t seem to be the cause
does that cover everything?
tx again
Also, not my first boat and there’s no greenhouse on the stern
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1 hour ago, Tony Brooks said:
Colecraft do not make engines, they make hulls and also fit some boat out. I don't think that you are aware that boats are very much one offs with many variations in equipment so totally unlike cars. This means that if you want help we need to know much more about what you have. engine make & model, gearbox make and model and so on.
Also much equipment used on inland boats is sourced from the automotive industry and sometimes it "not quite right" for the job. For instance I mentioned overfilling the cooling system. Now narrowboats are typically skin tank cooled and therefore hold much more liquid that the cooling system on a vehicle with the same base engine. This means you get far more expansion as the engine heats up so if you top up to any marks on the header tank or if you fill directly into the manifold cum heat exchanger and stick to automotive practice of 1" below the filler neck you are very likely to overfill it so excess coolant is expelled each time the engine heats up.
V interesting, it’s a beta 43 with a perm 150 gearbox
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Wow loads of issues, I’ll take some photos later, checked both oils again and correct levels. It’s made by Colecraft and has an acoustic cage around it, currently have a pet pad soaking it up
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4 minutes ago, Dr Bob said:
More info please.
Is it a cruisers stern? If so possibly water has got in from the heavy rain we have had in the last 4 weeks.
How new is new? How many hours on the engine? On new engines the recommendations are to change the oil and oil filter after 50 hours. If that has been done and care not taken on catching the oil from the filter then the oil spilt from the filter will go a long way in the water that is there due to the rain.
Give us a bit more info and we may be able to help.
Just changed the gearbox oil after 25 hrs but the oily water was there at that time. It’s a semi cruiser stern.
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1 minute ago, Tracy D'arth said:
Could you possibly be turning it the wrong way?
Checked Tx, changed pump now
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Not sure what’s going on, just checked and there’s an oily water in the engine bilge. It’s a brand new boat and I’ve checked the engine and gearbox oil and that’s fine, no leaks. Where could it have come from?
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Can’t I get in from the west around Runcorn?