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  1. Just now, blackrose said:

    Several years ago on the Thames a friend of mine standing on the bow of my boat started shouting at me and waving his arms around madly. I couldn't make out what he was saying over the noise of the engine so I just carried on. Turns out he was worried about me running over a pair of swans directly ahead of the boat. He didn't seem to realise they would just get out of the way at the last minute. 


    I understand that it's slightly different in a lock, but in my experience the same thing happens. I just take my boat in slowly and over the last 25 years I haven't killed any waterfowl yet, so I think some people are overreacting.

    That is the crux of the matter.   You take your boat in slowly, the write up in the original post makes it clear that wasn't the case in this event.

  2. 11 minutes ago, blackrose said:


    Did the boat actually crush the geese? If not I'm unclear what all the fuss is about. I've taken my boat into several locks with geese, ducks and swans. They usually get out of the way.

    It would appear it is more by good luck than good management.   I too have shared locks with waterfowl but I take care and don't just charge in willy nilly.  The "fuss" IMO is about the attitude of "to hell with other living things, I will do as I want".

  3. 6 minutes ago, Tracy D'arth said:

    If these were Canada Geese, they are considered by many to be an invasive foreign specie and vermin.


    They were imported as a game bird for shooting but they are useless for this. They have become a pest and are culled frequently despite them recently being included on the protected bird register to the dismay of many.


    They are noisy and dirty and eat far too much grass off the fields.

    Very probably all correct however that is no reason for potentially crushing an adult or mincing a gosling or two.

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  4. 1 hour ago, Tony1 said:


    And whilst we argue over a few hundred scooter crashes, the polar icecaps continue to melt, thousands of animal species face extinction, our temperatures continue to rise and break new records almost every year, and the planet moves ever closer to the point of no return. There is a much, much bigger picture to consider here. 


    But yes, I think there can be little doubt that in the case of an accident, e-scooters are far more risky to their drivers than cars are. How could it be otherwise, when the rider has no protection?

    But hundreds of thousands of commuters and leisure users cant afford to buy and run a car, and yet they dont want to get to their destination covered in sweat as they might on a bike in warm weather. 

    Nobody mentioned arguing over anything, well apart from you< I merely supplied some facts to help the discussion along.  However I suspect that there are ways of using electric propulsion which aren't as dangerous as escooters.


    For example I would like to see the comparison in environmental damage between say escooters and electric public transport (which is basically what trams were when I was a kid).

    1 hour ago, Tony1 said:


    Those users- who might well increase into the millions over the next few years- are prepared to take the increased risk of injury compared to a car, because it is their only practical and affordable method of personal transportation.

    Many of them might not particularly like taking the risks involved, but will probably feel that they dont have have much choice (like the example of the nurse I mentioned above, who felt safer riding home on a scooter after a late shift than she did using the bus

    Two thoughts.

    One the reintroduction of "conductors" and full use of various technologies could make late night public transport safe.


    Two there is a difference between feeling safer and being safer, do you have any figures to show public transport is more dangerous than the use of an escooter, sometimes in the dark, on a road (which I understand is the only way they can/will be legal to use.

    1 hour ago, Tony1 said:



    - the nurse who used a scooter with a maximum speed of 12 mph, and was fined £1000 and given 6 penalty points for trying to get home safely).

    No they weren't they were given the penalty points for breaking the law.  To say it was for trying to get home safely implies she was penalised for something which isn't against the law, which is completely untrue.

    1 hour ago, Tony1 said:


    Or perhaps the scooter riders will accept the risks because they'd rather travel in the open air than on an overcrowded bus or tube, because our public transport system is very poor quality. Who knows. 

    True the rider probably would, however over 1 in 3 of the serious injuries wasn't the rider but an innocent person.

    1 hour ago, Tony1 said:


    But if commuters are willing to ride to work on an e-scooter for economic reasons, or for personal freedom of transport, is it right to stop them doing that? 

    Is it right to subject members of the public to one third of the serious injuries caused by e-scooter drivers?  It is swings and round abouts.

    1 hour ago, Tony1 said:

    Those 3 deaths and 900 injuries arose from an estimated 1 million scooter journeys taken every month in 2021- thats 12 million scooter journeys over the year.

    First question can you give me a link for this please.  Second point "estimated" not a good basis for basing things on IMO.   By the way I hope you aren't linking my figures to the estimated trips as no mention is made in my reference of number of trips.


    How do the injuries/fatalities compare to the many millions of trips made by other forms of transport including e-bikes?

    1 hour ago, Tony1 said:

    And that's only the legal journeys taken on hire scooters, it doesnt include the many hundreds of thousands of illegal scooter journeys.  

    And only 3 deaths. 

    See above.   Also you can't include illegal journey as it has been already pointed out many/most accidents when used illegally will not be recorded because they are being used illegally.

    1 hour ago, Tony1 said:


    So maybe it's not that bad?

    My be not but to me your figures etc are spun to ensure it seems less serious than it may be.

    1 hour ago, Tony1 said:


    Or maybe we should just continue to prolong this interesting discussion about how many injured scooter riders can stand on the head of a pin, and let the planet continue to die for another 5 years before we make any changes? 


    You are being overly emotional about e-scooters, nobody, other than you, has suggested there shouldn't be environmentally sound methods of getting around.  The discussion is about whether e-scooters are the way forward or some other environmentally sound method.

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  5. According to "move electric" there have been 882 accidents involving escooters in a year.  3 were fatalities (all scooter users), 20% were "single vehicle" accidents, 931 people were injured 732 of those were scooter users, 253 of the injuries were serious 37 of which were pedestrians.


    Considering the number of escooters compared to cars these seem high to me.

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  6. When we changed to odorlos despite several rinsings it took a while before the smell disappeared.  I assume because of a) linger effects from the formaldehyde and b) time for the bacteria etc to develop a suitable habitat.

  7. 58 minutes ago, Rob-M said:

    And the canoes and rafts that are also operating from Port Loop.  We had some interesting trips with the pair last year as the group's out on the rafts couldn't understand that a motor and butty can't just stop dead when they suddenly cut in front of you 

    My wife described a narrowboat to a paddleboarder as "having the braking ability of a marble on lino with a mincing machine at the back".

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  8. 45 minutes ago, Arthur Marshall said:

    I'm in the process of single handing up and down the Llangollen. No problems so far, the odd bit of bad driving but nothing dreadful. It's got busier this week, but no problem finding places to moor.

    The only worrying bits are the very narrow stretches just before the end - I did them at 6am to make sure I didn't meet anyone coming the other way. Evenings would work just as well.

    Before the schools broke up I hardly saw another boat.

    The worst culprit IMO is the trip boat, they make no attempt to check if anybody is coming.

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  9. 2 hours ago, ditchcrawler said:

    Since Covid you are required to have a booking to use our local one, they also close one day mid week

    During Covid we had to queue (up to 2 hours) and only 3 vehicles on the premises at a time.

    1 hour ago, Slow and Steady said:

    Chucked on the way home after refusal?

    Hardly. I have taken beds and there has been no problem.

    24 minutes ago, Hudds Lad said:

    Or someone without a car who thought they’d paid a reputable waste disposal company to get rid of a bed, and rather than pay for a licence the nice lads with the flatbed transit just trousered the cash and punted it into a lay-by they were passing on the way to nick scrap out of peoples gardens?


    I don’t get the lazy thing, it’s as much effort to chuck it into the scenery as it is to take it to a tip. There has to be a reason they won’t go.


    Not saying you’re wrong, it just doesn’t make sense to me why someone would do it.

    In this area fly tipping seems to be  largish loads of mixed stuff not just single items.  However I suppose it is possible.

  10. 3 hours ago, Hudds Lad said:

    Don’t see how this will change anything to be honest, most fly tipping is unlicensed waste disposal or the by-products of cannabis grows. Some LA’s stopping charging honest people for disposal will not affect those who never had any intention of taking it to a tip in the first place due to paperwork/cost factors or legality.


    In the case of my LA this will make no difference, they don’t charge to get rid as they just don’t accept it full stop. Probably because the waste contract is subbed to a private firm and if it won’t go in the incinerator or weigh in for scrap then they won’t touch it.

    Or just plain idleness.  I passed a fly-tipped double bed today (which would have been readily accepted at the local recycling centre) it was in a lay-by 1 mile out of town and one mile from the "tip".

  11. 2 hours ago, Tony Brooks said:


    In so far as it goes it is progress, now we need the end of "no pedestrian or cycle" access to sites, " booked access only", and "you don't live in this area so shove off".  That needs government money because  local authorities have been starved of funds.

    The recycling centre my daughter uses in Edinburgh has started to accept cycles.   Here in Cumbria we have no booking and no need to prove where you are from.


    No help on the cut I know but hopefully the trend will spread.

  12. 5 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

    I did my Fire training with the RAF, the message was "don't stop and fight the fire, GET OUT and let the people with the proper equipment fight the fire".

    Just what the civilian fire service say as well.

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  13. 8 minutes ago, Bod said:

    In principle, the person tasked with securing the moved boat, is the person at fault, for not securing the boat properly, in view of passing traffic.

    If this person was an employee, then the employer may be libel.


    Total non professional personal opinion.



    That is how  would see it as well.

  14. 6 minutes ago, David Mack said:

    Can you get your care transferred to a hospital somewhere in the Midlands? Then you will be in much easier reach of the canal system for hospital appointments. The system must be able to deal with this when patients move house to another part of the country, so I don't see why they can't do the same if you are moving to live afloat and CC in a different part of the country.

    You would hope so, but when I had my hip replaced the first thing the consultant said at the first meeting was " you do realise that if you have problems in the future you will have to come back to this hospital".   I assume that was because I chose one 60 miles from home rather than the 20 to the nearest.

  15. 3 minutes ago, IanD said:

    Depends on whether the haggis definition of "meat" is the same as some fast food joints -- do minced eyeballs and kneecaps count or not?

    My Scots woodwork teacher at school used to describe Haggis as "a sheep's stomach stuffed with offal, to make it "offal nice""


    Offal as far as I know is heart, liver, lungs, tongue etc so no eyeballs and no bone which there would be if kneecaps were included.


    I doubt many modern Haggis are sheep's stomachs unless you are buying from a Scots local butcher.

  16. 1 minute ago, blackrose said:


    They're not causing displeasure or problems, it's just the nature of living on a boat in winter in a marina, in proximity to other boats.

    I felt that if somebody was thinking about making modifications to their boat it was because they felt the smell of the smoke was a problem for them.  If it isn't then surely there is , dare I say it, no problem.  If it is no problem no action is required, it would be illogical to say I am going to make modifications to my boat to rectify something which doens't need rectifying.

  17. Just now, Ianws said:

    Which haggis leg is preferable. Do they move round the mountains clockwise or anticlockwise?

    There are two sub species.  Lowland Haggis go anticlockwise but are very rare Highland Haggis are more common and go clockwise.  The downhill leg is most  developed and so has more meat.

  18. 10 hours ago, tree monkey said:

    The reduced sulphur in the air increased the prevalence of black spot on your roses

    Not sure if it has been mentioned but Dad, who worked on the footplate as a fireman said there were regular fires caused by hot ashes being thrown out of the stack when working hard.

    My Dad who was a fireman was regularly fighting grass fires started on the embankments often scrub as well.

  19. 3 minutes ago, Mike Tee said:

    Agreed, but what's the point of going on about it. It's done, and won't get undone for a long time, so start dealing with what we have, rather than what we used to have.

    The problem is what we have seems to be unending problems and rubbish.  Something needs to be done and soon either all the advantages of leaving suddenly appear or we are told they won't appear.   Either way we need to know.  It would be possible to settle to the rubbish situation if or should that be if (i.e. a big if) the government and Brexiteers came clean and admitted things were in a mess and unlikely to get better.   As long as nearly half the population (possibly more now) think they have been conned and sold down the river resentment will continue.  I said when the referendum was announced it would split the country for decades and that was before anybody had voted.

  20. 3 hours ago, Mike Tee said:

    Get over it, like it or not it's a done deal.

    Tell Brexiteers to get over it.  they keep dragging up ancient history about the referendum.   Now what we have is to look forward to all these benefits, you know things like not being able to stay on the continent for 180 days, roaming charges etc.

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  21. 4 minutes ago, jonathanA said:

    Have you tried asking CRT anything at all....  ? 

    The nicest thing I can say is its an iterative process ... I ask a question, fill a form in or email a document they ask questions then put me on to another department with a different form or process to follow and usually accompanied by a 'fee' to cover their costs.... dont get me wrong they are helpful and always pleasant to deal with but not easy to get a straight answer from them.... and not quick either. 

    Maybe not but at least you would know what you could do without the risk of backlash from CRT at some point in the future.

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