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the separates vs combi argument is another version of the pumpout vs cassette debate....
In this case I think we need the OP to give us more info to help work out whether it is 'too clever' electronics or a physical issue like a dodgy shore lead or a combination of both !
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5 minutes ago, frangar said:
It will be interesting to see what it sells for...as with all auctions the guide price is usually the lowest that would be accepted...Im guessing it will go for a lot more...prob around £1.5-£2m...unless there is something odd happening which there might be to sell through auction rather than via a business broker or agent...and of course there is the auction fees to add as well.
yes it will be interesting to see what it goes for and who buys it. Also why an auction - previous business gone bust ?
i can't see how you could make more than £50K year (being optimistic) and if i had £1.5M laying about I could do better than that with out the hassle of running the business by simply giving it to an investment manager. if you don't have the capital, I don't see how the business could fund it unless there is some other significant income stream.
presume one of the 'chains' will buy it to add to their portfolios.
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indeed, say £200K income from 85 berths+dry dock. outgoings would be CRT NAA - 20%?, bus rates, insurance, water, utilities (maybe some income from resell of electric at cost), maintenance etc... thinking you could make a reasonable living but not a licence to print money...
does include the accommodation on site, but not sure i'd want berth holders knocking on my door at midnight complaining the toilets were blocked....
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20 hours ago, LEO said:
I am packing up boating soon, (started 1975) and will miss lighting the stove, I think I will look for a small stove and install that, with suitable flue and fire precautions, my hobby, woodworking produces offcuts. Happy Days........thanks for all the advice - how soon will I need a BSC for my summerhouse?..
in some ways you already do - all right stretching the point a bit (lot) but if you were installing the stove in a living area it would need 'Hetas' for gods sake...
i think you will be ok so long as you don't plan to sleep in your summer house....
P.S I would consider one of those chinese diesel heaters. not hard to feed the exhaust out through the side of the shed, or as I intend to do, stick the heater outside (in a lean to/shelter) and duct the warm air in to where its wanted.
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1 hour ago, Tony Brooks said:Tell me about it. When I trained REME apprentice mechanics, we used to get the electronics apprentices who had failed the electronics training so were sent to us being absolutely petrified of auto-electrical systems when they learned that at 12/24 volts we actually use and measure whole amps. It often took a fair time for them to grasp that at 12/24V the current that can penetrate most skin is not enough to hurt you. (Bit different if you happen to bridge a relay coil connections with your finger as it de-energizes, that can give you a surprise, but no danger).
when I was an apprentice anything more than 10W was considered 'power' by the electronics bods and the power guys used to talk about 'small machines of say 1/2 a megawatt' one thing we always had to be careful about was our 'low voltage' 50V systems that could produce/handle very large currents and careless screwdriver or spanner could be 'entertaining'
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your starting point really should be to RTFM - read the flipping manual for your victron unit. if you don't have the manual then posting the model number and/or a pic on here and someone will be able to tell you all about it. the terms float, absorption and bulk relate to the charging (of the 12V batteries) function of your Victron. I can't see why that should affect the boat mains unless there is something else going on.
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On 10/01/2024 at 21:43, frangar said:
C & H handspike….needed for boating….also tell plod you think the assailants had weapons…..
A good few years ago the local Bobby told me that my 4 d cell maglite could be an offensive weapon, but a torch if switched on... so I had to switch it on before hitting any scrotes with it.
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Seems reasonable to look for a fire retardant varnish or paint to help mitigate spread of a fire. Suspect a lot of us on wooden lined nbs could do with thinking about it rather than just slapping on b&qs cheapest....
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If its been on the market since June that seems a long time so either ther is something wrong with it or it's over priced or both. It could be the minor things you have spotted putting others off perhaps coupled with a seller who wants the asking price. People can be very stubborn when selling things. Be cheeky ask the broker why it's still on the market, what's the sellers position, have they had other offers? It can be quite surprising what you can find out with a polite question and a smile.
Eta if its in the water ask to take it for a test sail.
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18 hours ago, dmr said:
It would be good if this would stop the endless building of canalside housing estates and other inappropriate developments, but I suspect it wouldn't.
I also half remember that CRT looked at this option and rejected it.
it wouldn't. just drive down the side of Lake Windermere and see all the inappropriate development.... initially the 'Lake district special Planning Board' was able to control (for good or bad) development in the NP, but in the last few years they seem to have given up /had their powers eroded.
it seems a completely impractical suggestion anyway, any 'canal national park authority' would have to deal with virtually every county and local council in the country. (i'm sure there's a couple with no rivers/canals but can't be many).
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do let us know how you got on 🙂
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where are you reading '89%' ? There are a number of cheap chinese voltmeters, (often coupled with 12V car type cigar lighter sockets) that also give a 'battery charge' indication as a % (based on the voltage). if its one of those just ignore the %age reading altogether.
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49 minutes ago, IanD said:
So if anyone with more knowledge of that bit of the canal than me and/or a self-pumpout kit can suggest where one could be legitimately used less than 3 hours away, that would be helpful 🙂
see several of my posts before the bickering started....
39 minutes ago, MtB said:I'd be interested to hear too, where self-pumpout kits can be used not at an Elsan point. About a decade ago there were a couple of long and bitter threads on here about the viability of self-pumping out, or not. Started IIRC by a poster commenting on visiting an elsan with sewage sprayed all up the walls and an inch deep on the floor, and suggesting the culprit was a solo boater self-pumping out.
Most elsan points seem to have a notice 'saying not suitable for self pumpout' ergo those that do not have such a notice are.... although from what I've seen those ones usually coincide with a CRT pumpout facility anyway.
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I have no personal experience of Crooke marina and it is a sort of odd place, but my assumption is that they have PO facilities. only two locks from burscough and appley is a deep 'un , the other, dean lock is easy enough (and has a water point as it happens) .
4 minutes ago, IanD said:That's true, unless you have a sudden unexpected pump-out crisis in the middle of nowhere. DAMHIK... 😞
or the PO machine is broken and/or it won't accept the CRT prepaid credit card thing you've had in a drawer on the boat for two years...
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2 hours ago, Jerra said:
I am not good on canal geography but are there really places that are three hours in any direction to find a pump out?
We never seem to have to go far before we find one when needed.
in the frozen north - all too common i'm afraid. so at the west end of the L&L there is a pumpout at the top of the wigan flight so a 42 lock /two day job if its a there and back trip. next CRT one is Litherland. But there is crooke and Scarisbrick marinas and also MMBC not sure where they have PO's but they have several bases at the liverpool end of the L&L. Water taps are slightly better but only just...
3 hours ago, IanD said:She also says it's 3 hours *away* so a 6 hour round trip plus pumpout time, meaning an entire day each time it's needed. Not exactly convenient... 😞
I'd say its more like 2 hours each way and a number of decent pubs en-route so potentially a pleasant day out. the op did initially say they managed 3 months between Pumpouts so not that onerous, of course if thats changed and its more frequent then it could be a real nuisance.
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thanks Ian,
thats really helpful.
Are there any other candidates that are also forumites ? As i don't know any of them personally i'd be interested in any that have been seen to do a good job or are known to be good representatives of boaters, not supporting 'minority' interests (i'd see any IWA,NBTA or HNBC candidates as minority)
off to read all the statements now - oh what joy (and for the business candidates as I get to vote there as well..)
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28 minutes ago, rusty69 said:
However, if you system works for you, without the need for manual intervention /rebooting the remote phone etc, that's great.
the sigsegv system looks superb and well done for sharing all the info but its OTT for me.
i've been playing with team viewer for a few days now, and apart from having to take pin locking security off the remote phone so far it just works. I particularly like being able to switch on the camera front or back and see whats going on remotely. Obviously not as good as proper IP CCTV with motion sense and alerting etc, but I don't really need that at the moment.
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rose grove then ! there are some small local convenience store shops nearby, things like the little butchers shop have long since gone. otherwise the Visitor moorings at Hapton are ok and there are some nice remote moorings as you leave hapton. (although you may be close to the M65).
Eanam Wharf in blackburn is ok and handy for a big morrisons. some people like the Caribbean restaurant at Eanam, personally I never fancied it. There is a 'spoons' not too far from Eanam if you can lower yourself to one of those 🙂
sadly the thwaites brewery has long since gone at Blackburn...
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which direction are you going ?
if going towards Blackburn (west) then the burnley Mile (embankment) is ok, but don't leave your boat unattended - handy for the big tesco store.
at the end of the Burnley mile is the new finsley gate wharf might be a good option if you can moor there. (wasn't open when we were there last)
Otherwise theres not much for a while. a good place to stop is rosegrove services just through Gannow tunnel - nice and secure. there is a 'pub' sycamore farm in walking distance on the towpath side - think its one of the marstons food factory places - but reasonable pub grub at reasonable price.
going East its a bit of a desert... There is a handy mooring at Colne, Morrisons on the offside with access to Morrisons car park via a gate, great for stocking up , otherwise you've had it until you go up barrowford locks.
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yes we have one of the 'just too late' warning lights - a simple float switch. Never had a problem with the light failing (have two LEDS connected to it anyway). the problem we DO have is that float switches are not reliable and the err contents of the tank can be a bit "clingy" and it either fails to operate or stays on when emptied. The latter is less of a problem... even so its better than nothing just needs the occasional wipe to clean it and keep it working.
I like the look of the MCS solution and pleased to see they are offering a 52mm gauge option again, so adding that to my list of jobs...
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thanks @GUMPY i was unaware of teamviewer and having had a play with it this morning it looks a good option, although I had to disable my pin on the controlled phone.
thanks for the post/idea !
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17 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said:
I've seen this suggested several times over the years but I just cannot fathom why you would want to do it.
'wanting to' and having the 'capability to do ' are slightly separate things in my mind. why do people (on here) always talk about having more than one form of heating, back up water pumps, multiple ways to charge batteries etc... simple because having 'redundancy' is always a good thing in any system. So having the capability to drain 20 litres or so out of a pumpout tank and being able to use an elsan disposal point to dispose of it is very handy. washing out the short hoses/pump is no more /less difficult than rinsing a cassette using the elsan point rinse facility.
Finally i don't have the room to operate (when needed) and store a 'cassette' toilet, I do have the room (in the engine ole) to store 2m of hose and small pump and 20l container, like this which is designed for the job. https://towsure.com/products/caravan-waste-container-black-23-litre?variant=45994375479598¤cy=GBP&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gclid=CjwKCAiA4smsBhAEEiwAO6DEjVTeGCbG3cGpmdDWnU4CQASMp0rKjPXiBQUpI7rj_uyrtXRHLY7frBoC4AIQAvD_BwE
if i wanted a shit suitcase system i'd have one, but i'm more than happy with our macerator toilet/pumpout system which works for us. for the OP it would give them an option whilst they consider the longer term solution.
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On 29/12/2023 at 17:54, pearley said:
it's just that somehow a 3 hour one way trip up to the nearest pump out station seems like a much bigger endeavour
3 hour return trip surely. Scarisbrick Marina nearest pumpout to Burscough. No locks but a few swing bridges. If you require an engineer then they are probably the best to ask.
Yes that was my first thought. Speak to Dan for the work.
I'd also put together your own self pumpout kit and a 20 litre caravan waste tank (or any suitable 20/25 L drum.). All you need is a manual bilge pump and few metres of hose and a 1.5 inch BSP (male) fitting. Fill your waste drum and empty at the elsan point. Very similar to a typical cassette.
3 months between pumpouts is amazing. When the Dark Lord is in board we are lucky to last a week ... at 4 times a year a couple of hours to Scarisbrick orva pumpout shouldn't be any great hardship
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2 hours ago, dmr said:
I think an intermittent of partial battery short or bad (internal) interconnect is a possible explanation and a new battery would be a good investment.
However this explanation would require the original battery to have been knackered and the new one to be a bit defective so we are looking at a very unlikely combination of events.
Not really given 2 years between battery changes.... also if you read the thread Nick has measured the starter current.
So it seem like the battery should have been in a good state of charge confirmed by a voltage of 13.3v at the terminals. Drops to 8 and a bit when cranking. It's a proported duel purpose starter/leisure battery.... so perhaps a bit of a compromise?
Seems to be starting better following a bit of engine use / charging.
Does suggest a 'lazy' battery.... think now that's understood then its a question of whether that can be lived with...
End of my stupid stupid fuse
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a good workaround , especially for a relatively low rating of fuse is just to use a standard blade type automotive fuse, cut the old in line fuse holder off and fit 1/4" female spade connectors (blue or red crimp would be fine) to the wire ends. the blade fuse will fit in the spade connectors and you can buy automotive blade fuses for pence..