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  1. When I designed and fitted out Innisfree in  2005 I decided to fit as many batts as poss across the back cabin, this worked out at 8x110ah FLAs, along with with 200amp alternator this proved very effective, approx 2hrs charging daily to keep between 50 & 80% SoC + a weekly 8hr absorption with the Kipor 2kw genny proved sufficient for full time living off grid, microwave, fridge tv etc etc, generous power consumption, better still was our 2nd set of batts, 8x120ah AGMs, they took abuse and lasted 7yrs, lithium would have been ideal if they'd been available then. 

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  2. I'm guessing the SG compares discharge rate and pattern with known ones from a similar type of battery, it then makes a guess at SoC, after a few charge/discharge cycles it makes increasingly more accurate guesses based on more comparisons. 


    A simple comparison meter, simple in principle but complex to achieve 🤣

  3. SmartGauge is designed to inform those who can't be arsed to use voltmeters etc and have more important things to do like drinking beer, an easy to use device to able see at a glance what the SoC is and therefore know when to start charging, a clever but simple fit and forget device, though I doubt Gibbo would say it was easy or simple to design 🤣

  4. FWIW when fitting out Innisfree I installed Victron 24-300-70 Multiplus, 8x110 ah FLA & 100amp 24v alternator. Worked a treat no issues, 1st set of batteries lasted 2 years, 2nd set (8x120ah AGM) lasted 8years, still OK when boat was sold, this was despite me nearly killing AGMs with too low charge voltage (thought they were older American type)

    Well impressed with them. 

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  5. IMO our genetic map is drawn when we are born or conceived, our sexual orientation, along with other things  doesn't really change but as we grow older we hopefully become more self aware and slowly discover ourselves. I say hopefully but it seems some probably don't see, or refuse to see, their true human nature be it sexual or otherwise, instead preferring to stick with what they consider to be their identity. 

  6. 3 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said:


    Traditionally on cruisers and as I understand yachts all the floor sections could be lifted with the partitions supporting the edges of the floor. Only narrowboats seem to put all the floors down and the build the portions on top. Cruisers and I suspect yachts only stopped doing it the traditional way when they started moulding the hull inner mouldings.

    It's done because it's quick and easy. 

    Too much vertical thinking. 

  7. 11 minutes ago, blackrose said:

    I met a couple on a boat where every single built in cupboard, wall panel and floor panel could be easily dismantled and removed if required. They were obviously made small and manageable. It was a work of art. 


    Ideally all boats would be made this way. You wouldn't need inspection hatches if you could easily remove any section of floor that you wanted to. 

    It could be done economically on a large scale with proper design. But why bother if boats are selling. 

    4 minutes ago, LadyG said:

    My saloon is 10ft along one side, twelve feet on the other and maybe 6 ft 6 inches wide, if I ever needed to lift it I'd be in big trouble. 

    Who said it had to be in one piece? 

  8. 4 minutes ago, LadyG said:

    I can't imagine why anyone would have individual floors in each room. If, for example I wanted to build the galley floor, with the dining floor adjacent, where would the join be that would allow you to lift the galley floor, and the dining floor. Would it be under the partition wall?

    Do you remove all the cabinets first. Surely you don't expect to ever lift the floor, a few inspection hatches may be needed, but if the floors need to be removed, something has gone wrong. 

    The use of laminate flooring, carpet, vinyl,  engineered wood etc are the wearing surfaces, surely they sit on top of the flooring boards in most cases.

    I think there are some things on these boats which are tried and tested, once you've lined the walls with ply, you won't want to take it down every few years.

    That's my point, no imagination! 🤣


    You are thinking of conventional boats built  to sell at a profit. 

    Everything removable, takes thinking outside of the conventional box, it's not rocket science.

    Partition wall sits on bearers, floor buts up to it, screwed to a strip of ply between bearers, only downside is only one room can be lifted at once, handy for adjusting ballast for ongoing  improvements, similar with wall lining. 

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  9. 20 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said:


    Yes, but yours was new and by the way you write it already had the engine and at least rudimentary electrics installed. It was not an old hull with an engien that needed fitting and wiring.

    Bare shell, nothing fitted, I sourced everything and finished up with a bespoke boat.

    In some ways it was easier, trying to persuade builders to do things in an unorthodox way would never have worked, there was enough hassle with folk telling me I was doing it all wrong and said it wouldn't work, shaking of heads, for instance some didn't understand why I was going to the trouble of designing the floor and lining to be individually removable in each room, they were genuinely puzzled, it just wasn't done that way. They were wrong so I just ignored them. 

    Looking at the lack of imagination and basic incompetence I can see why folk have probs with their builders. If you want a job doing properly diy is my motto though health probs prevents me doing it now. 

  10. 7 hours ago, MtB said:


    And money.


    The cost will exceed just buying a complete and working second hand similar boat, I'd predict.






    Maybe but in our case we finished up with a boat with loads of extras that would have cost much more new and I couldn't possibly find a boat with all the fitout I wanted. 

  11. 3 minutes ago, Slim said:

    When my wife died I decided to buy a new 55' hull and fit it out myself from scratch. Everything, including a mutual and bolt engine rebuild. I was still working. It took me well over 5 years to get to a stage w1here it could reasonably be used for day trips and several more before it was completed (almost). Technically I was a competent amateur with a background of off-shore sailing.  It's not a quick job and multiply any imagined costs by two, maybe 3.

    Endless enthusiasm, determination and patience is required IMO

  12. Beware of taking advice, well meaning but listen to it and then make up your mind, as an example I asked a few experienced builders and fitters opinions on ballasting but they all disagreed with each other, I decided to do the maths myself, the result seemed a bit odd and everyone said it was wrong, I trusted my maths and went ahead. On the day of the launch a local boat builder stated a rule of thumb with ballasting and much to my relief it agreed with my findings, hour later Innisfree was floating with a nearly prefect trim. 

  13. I knew nothing about boats, We were recently just retired (2002) so I researched for a year, hardly able to sleep for excitement, I then single handed fitted out a new shell from scratch, full time living on site in a caravan age 55. Taking my time to try and avoid costly mistakes it took me almost 2 years to get it on the water, that was all diy with the exception of spray foam. It was an enjoyable but very steep learning curve, fuelled by intense enthusiasm and the support of my amazing wife. The result was 5 happy years as full time ccers


    Stay realistic and don't underestimate the effort needed. 


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