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Thank you @PeterScott - I really like those, as they convey the atmosphere of the parade very nicely.
A shame they clearly show a need for fairly urgent maintenance of SICKLE's hull, but I guess that is just life!
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1 hour ago, Tonka said:
@alan_fincher Is there still a tug one at the Black Country living Museum
I believe not.
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1 hour ago, David Schweizer said:
There have always been a few arrogant historic boat owners, who's behavior did little to endear others, but thia l always founfd that the majority behaved considerately.
1 hour ago, David Mack said:There are a few arrogant owners amongst all types of boats, but the distinctive nature of historic boats tends to mean that a bad encounter sticks in the memory and all historic boat owners get tarred with the same brush, whereas arrogant behaviour by the owner of a clonecraft just gets dismissed as one of the relatively few bad apples.
Yes - both of the above.
I once experienced appalling behaviour by the crew of an historic boat - but thankfully it is not something I have ever seen repeated.
Behaviour by "Trust" of "Friends of" crews can sometimes be less than perfect, but I have found if challenged through the proper channels, they usually take a complaint quite seriously.
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An interesting video - thanks for the link.
I was intrigued to see one Alan Vessey interviewed in the topic of the Deltic engine. As a youth I enjoyed invites to Alan's O gauge garden railway, mostly clockwork but with some live steam. Since then I'm aware of Alan's long term involvement at the Quainton Road railway preservation site, (now rebranded as Buckinghamshire Railway Centre. Various "steam" publications have also shown his major involvement in restoring Great Western express locomotives.
My last face to face contact with Alan was at my mother's funeral.
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An unusually quiet aftermath to Braunston in terms of photos and videos that have been posted since - this despite a pretty good attendance of something like 80 historic boats.
We were involved enough soaking up the atmosphere that we failed to take any of our own photos. However scouring around we have turned up several for our own boat SICKLE.
Here's a selection>
(Photo by Ian Mulford of this forum)
(Photo by Kev Maslin)
(Photo by Polly Parrot)
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12 hours ago, John Brightley said:
EDIT: Alan Faulkner's article about B&MCCC in Narrow Boat summer 2008 says that the last loads of coal taken down south by B&MCCC were at Easter 1969, so I think the photo must be before that date.
I'm not convinced it is NUTFIELD paired with RAYMOND. Might it not in fact be ROGER, before it was replaced by NUTFIELD? If so the picture is no later than October 1968, I think.
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1 hour ago, Alan de Enfield said:
I was replying to AlanF's assertion that an emergency front exit was legally required.
Nowhere did I mention "legal" or "legally".
I could just as easily been referring to "common-sense" requirement!
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A fascinating alternative to the more usual rum of the mill approaches.
Clearly it will not appeal to those who want some kind of front deck / well, but otherwise seems a very innovative arrangement.Out of curiosity how do you meet the requirement to have emergency exit routes at the front of the boat?
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15 hours ago, Ray T said:
Did the water cans Terence Edgar had stolen ever come to light?
14 hours ago, Graham_Robinson said:Were they painted or plain?
My somewhat flaky memory wants to say that what Terence had stolen was a large amount of "raw "items awaiting painting. I don't recall ever hearing that any was recovered, but it is a long time ago, and I may be wrong.
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56 minutes ago, Francis Herne said:
I think my ideal would be an unconverted boat, with a small cabin extension or under-canvas 'pod' for a toilet and shower, but mostly open hold. Big steel cabin with a tug deck not quite what's in my mind's eye, and taking an angle-grinder to a brand new sprayfoamed cabin would be a bit mad.
Very occasionally something like that comes up, but it is VERY occasionally.
Far more likely, of course is a totally unconverted motor.Quite a few on offer at the moment with mostly an under cloth conversion - I can think of BADSEY & CHISWICK, (plus CYPRUS, if owner will sell separately from its butty).
If you want a completely unconverted one, then there is VESTA, but she is 40 Feet long, not 72 Feet long
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15 minutes ago, Graham_Robinson said:
Dave is right you can get unpainted cans from BCM but they don't hold water, literally.
Yes, I was only talking about anybody offering a can that is water-tight.
I'm well aware of the deficiencies of the BCM cans, because I once made the foolish mistake of buying one
A tree incident removed (only) the handle into the cut, whilst leaving the rest of the can on the roof. I failed to "magnet fish" it, so took the incomplete can to the local tip.
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1 hour ago, David Mack said:
A while ago there was talk on the forum of somebody making a small batch of new Buckby cans for sale. Does anyone remember who was going to do this and did it ever happen?
I don't recall anybody other than Rose Narrowboats saying they would make some.
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26 minutes ago, Francis Herne said:
Keith Lodge told me I'd be daft to buy an old boat, and to look into replicas like his own Hadar. Possibly not wrong, but there are even fewer good replicas out there than the real ones!
Yes, if you mean a really convincing "replica", (Brinklow Boats use the term "Remake"), then I agree, there are precious few about. I'm not aware of anybody making full length "replicas" or "remakes" that use riveted construction for the hull.
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4 hours ago, Derek R. said:
A "fair price". A seller will consider his item is being offered at 'a fair price', a buyer will think different, unless their desire for the item overwhelms logic.
Therefore, a 'fair' price is determined by the two individuals agreeing. But is it a 'fair' price? There are as many fair prices as there are opinions.
However, at auction, desire and logic battle with each other leading to unprecedented gains - disaster, or simply no sale.
In my relatively limited experience of selling/buying historic boats, the price that might be achieved, (which may or may not be "a fair price"), can be heavily influenced by how many interested potential buyers there are.
Irrespective of type, (unconverted, under cloths converted, full cabin converted), and size , (full length or shortened), they are all very much a niche market, and many may not tick the boxes of what a potential "historic" purchaser is seeking. If a boat comes to market that multiple people have an interest in, then it may well change hands for far more than if only one person is genuinely interested - it can take months or even years before a decent candidate boat becomes openly available, and then someone may pay well over the odds to secure it, rather than go back to another indeterminate period of waiting.
The other thing to bear in mind is that far more "historics" are sold by word of mouth than ever actually come onto the open market, openly advertised and in theory available to anybody with the money. Even when openly advertised some sellers will prefer to sell to someone they think should be a good custodian to the boat, and may be more reticent to sell to someone who thinks they want an "historic", but don't realise what that may mean in practice
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The image seems very low resolution, so difficult to see much detail.
Any Black Country Metalworks can I have seen is galvanised.
However the quality of the soldering is usually poor - the cans are not water tight, and details like handles have a havit of disconnecting themselves. -
The latest take on selling BADSEY
Worth a read just for the quality rant by the seller...
QuoteWELL HERE WE ARE AGAIN - AFTER 12 MONTHS WASTED ? BY 2 SEPERATE PROSPECTIVE BUYERS WHOSE DREAMS TOOK US ALL THE WAY TO AGREED HANDOVER DAY WHEN EACH SUDDENLY HAD A FINAL PAYMENT PROBLEM. BOTH HAD PAID A DEPOSIT AND WE WERE TOLD BY THE AGENT THAT THE SURVEU ONE OF THEM HAD WAS VERY GOOD (BUT DENIED TO US UNLESS WE PAID £500 ! declined). THE OTHER SAID HE HAD A BUYER FOR HIS HOUSE AND AGREED TO BUY BADSEY BUT WE HAD TO WAIT FOR MONTHS FOR IT TO COMPLETE BY WHICH TIME, ALTHOUGH HE SIGNED TO SAY HE WAS HAPPY WITH THE BOAT, AND ARRIVED TO TAKE OWNERSHIP AND MOVE ON TO BADSEY, WHICH WE HAD TO AGRESSIVELY PREVENT AS HE ALSO HAD A PROBLEM UNDERSTANDING HE HAD TO TRANSFER THE CONTRACTED BALANCE. SO WE ARE ADVERTISING HERE IN THE HOPE OF FINDING A NORMAL SORT OF PERSON WITH THE WILL AND MEANS TO BUY, LOVE AND TAKE CARE OF BADSEY.
I'm not sure why the seller thinks spelling out all the above is likely to increase BADSEY's appeal to any other potential new buyer.!
13 hours ago, Francis Herne said:Motorised butty, if it has a Lister?
Price seems high to me even with the increase in boat prices recently: it's well above the previous sale (which gave much more useful information) despite a few years of apparent neglect.
Previous listing https://boats-from.co.uk/not-specified/historic-narrowboat-1898-bantock-butty-72-liveaboard-719206
A very much older incarnation of RENOWN, (1972, I think)....
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16 hours ago, MtB said:
Don't undersell yourself. You know perfectly well it looks nothing like an HA3!
I do have an HA3 in the garage, so if it is really important I could try comparing it to the pictures in the advert.
I've never seen an HA2 or HA3 mated to a Lister gearbox that wasn't the usual Blackstone one.I think that the punier gearbox in the add points to it being a less powerful engine - S series rather than H series.
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2 hours ago, Francis Herne said:
Probably this one: https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/916857322930366/
HA3? with an SL4 gearbox. In need of work but doesn't look totally knackered to my inexpert eye.
It is listed as "Spares or Repairs", so I doubt it is a running engine.
I'm no great expert but don't think it looks like an HA3. My gut feel is that it is a less powerful engine.
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35 minutes ago, magnetman said:
probably not an SL2 if it is a 3 pot!
Fair comment, but the only one i could see at £500, to include a gearbox.
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1 hour ago, junior said:
3 pot Lister with marine gearbox on Facebook market place for £500 at the moment.
Is that the SL2? If so, they list as having just 9.5 HP - that is decidedly inadequate for a full sized Large Woolwich, even on a canal, let alone on a River.
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7 minutes ago, Ewan123 said:
It's been nice to see Pegasus out and about over the last couple of weeks, I'm not sure the history but I get the impression it's only recently that Michael Pinnock has got it fully restored again and working on the fuel runs on the Lee Navigation.
I also don't know the detail, but you are correct that it is a very recent renovation. It looked very smart.
On 26/06/2023 at 08:26, Grahamnewman said:92 were booked in and 82 turned up plus one more on Sunday.
Thank you Graham - a sensible number in my view. In the past when close to the "magic" 100, it has all felt a bit unmanagable.
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20 hours ago, magnetman said:
Turbo Perkins 4107 sounds a bit strange..
It sounds "unusual" to me, and frankly far from suitable.
However this Wikipedia suggests they were a thing, but also seems to question if any were ever built.
QuoteFour-cylinder, 107.5 cu. in. (1.8 L) turbocharged diesel engine. Wet sleeves. Very rare (perhaps never produced).
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10 minutes ago, junior said:
Stip the guts out of it, paint the inside of the hold and add some new wooden gunnels, fit a cabin stove and off you go.
Even "fit a new cabin range" is a bit of a challenge at the moment. I'm not aware of anybody supplying new ones suitable for use in the back cabin of a motor, and spares seem very difficult for a used one.
13 minutes ago, junior said:If you were handy with the spanners, you could probably put an air cooled lister 2-pot and gearbox in for a couple of grand.
That sounds a bit optimistic. I've not seen evidence of Lister H series engines in good order for as little money as that, and you are definitely going to need a new prop, which don't come cheaply in sizes suitable for those Listers -
38 minutes ago, Admiral said:
Large Woolwich for sale
That's one hell of a crazy advert.
It seems to be suggesting that working boats had only one of two possible outcomes - either they were repossessed and taken to the Wendover arm prior to disposal, or they were amongst those scuttled by BW in Harefield flash.Apparently, also this was the one Town class boat not built from scratch with a steel bottom....
QuoteWhen built, Bognor had an elm bottom that has been replaced with a mild steel base plate
I suspect that the £35K price, whilst it sounds low, is far from a bargain.
Boat selling problem - help!
in General Boating
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Yes,
Our bank places a £10K limit, and it has in the past proved impossible to over-ride it. (The £10K hasn't been increased in very many years, so inflation is effectively limiting the maximum payment.)
The next problem you may face is that the £10K can only be done on business days (weekdays) so your buyer may no be able to instigate a second £10K before Monday.
However I would have thought they could instruct their bank to do a CHAPS transfer for the full amount. They will need to pay a fee for this, (about £30, I think, the last time we used it), but I think they could get a payment through today, if they get onto their bank immediately.
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