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I've found a fuel tank that is compliant. I'm not fitting an air vent to the tank but to the fuel cap. If I fit one of these fuel tank will it be compliant with the BSS as an air vent. https://www.asap-supplies.com/perko-deck-filler-0540dpgchr
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57 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:
If this is being used for an Outboard then as long as it is CE marked as suitable for marine use it should be OK
The BSS has very little to say about OB fuel tanks.
If you intend to use it as a 'permanently installed' tank to supply a permanently installed engine and replace the 'built in tank' you will need to meet the whole raft of requirements in BSS Section 2 and Appendix F
Edit to Add :
The BSS requirements change (get more difficult) for tanks over 27 litres.
EG - You may have problems achieving this requirement if the tank is just 'sat' on your rear deck:
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Does the location and condition of the fuel filling point ensure that any fuel overflow is
prevented from entering the interior of the vessel?If I find a little fuel tank under 27 litres does that make things easier.
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Does anyone know whether this fuel tank would be BSS compliant?
https://www.tcschandlery.co.uk/mobile/large-capacity-fuel-tanks-33ltr/p11344
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Contacted nearby Marina who sell 5 litre tubs of blacking paint for £36. Not as cheap as £18.00 per 5 litres at Toolstation but I would rather not pollute Canal with harmful chemicals. Got to keep the fish and ducks happy ?
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Looking for blacking paint. Will this paint do the job?
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8 minutes ago, hider said:
Do you know how to take the shaft out? Rudder?
Not yet. I will figure it out.
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Spoken to propeller makers today. Best thing to do is take shaft out and plug hole. Send shaft to them. Job done?.
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6 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said:
I’m now wondering if your propeller is in the cut, just behind your boat.
When I last moved it, the propeller got stuck in weeds as low water, I then stopped, moored the boat up, removed weeds and propeller was still there when I left. Gone a few days later. I got in the river and searched the river around my boat and in a 15 metre radius. Nothing was found. A propeller can't just disappear by wind!!
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New information.
I tried two bolts today and a one inch nut is too big so I'm going to try a 0.9 inch (22mm) nut tomorrow.
I also made some clay casts today which are very accurate. Is it me or is 4 inches on the outside small for a drive shaft?
Lock key length is 50mm.
There is no lock hole on the drive shaft thread??
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4 minutes ago, Bee said:
What I would do. (and have done) See if you can draw the shaft out. Can you lift the rudder out of its cup at the bottom? do so and shove it sideways. Does it unbolt from the tiller just under the counter? Is it possible to pull the shaft OUT? lift the engine and pull the shaft IN? If you can get the shaft out and bung a piece of tapered wood in the stern gland then you can take the shaft to a good industrial fixings supplier, find a nut, fit a key (carefully, it might be TOO HIGH and prevent the prop fitting properly on the taper and need filing down), (My present boat has a Whitworth thread on a second hand shaft) Fit the propeller, tighten it all down, drill the nut and shaft and put a good STAINLESS steel splitpin in it. Refit it underwater with prop attached or unfitted if you cant get it past the rudder, re- assemble till the splitpin aligns and the job is done. Wedge the bung in place with a bit of wood rammed up against something solid to stop it popping in and sinking the boat. To find a propeller look in E Bay or ring round boatyards and Midland Chandlers, they sometimes have second hand ones. I've got a suitable one but its right hand. Good luck
Many thanks Bee. I saw someone taking out the shaft on YouTube and I reckon I can but I spoke to engineer today and they said it was a bit risky to take shaft out in water but might be the quickest and beat bet.
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19 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said:
Wearing my cynical hat, I'm beginning to doubt the whole "someone stole my prop with the boat in the water" thing.
Whenever I need to get a prop off it usually involves a long lever to get the nut undone, liberal application of blowlamp(s) along with two people with a hammer each trying to achieve simultaneous blows on each side of the boss.
Wearing my less cynical hat, I wonder if the prop was ever on the boat when possession was handed over. They whole thing seems faintly odd to me.
It was on the boat as I moved it around 1.5 miles and checked propeller after.. it was still there when I left it. I came back and gone.
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I mean would it be easier just to get an outboard and stick that on for now?
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Perfect thanks for your help. I will find those measurements over the coming days.
CRT local officer said to me he's extended my stay by 7 days to rectify the problem. Yeah right! I've got contacted boat movers in the area and out if area but they won't be able to move to boat for another 4 weeks and over . If I get the correct propeller it will take at least 2 weeks to come. Move it around with a stick?
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Spoke to Marine engineer today. Two ways of doing.. easiest is out of the water but there's no boat yards near me that can do it so he told me to speak to T.norris who are specialist's.
Also read engine manual:
Reduction gear ratio is 2:1
Propeller torque, cont. Rating, 7,65-7,95 kpm 55-57 ft.lbs
Direction of rotation is left.
Rpm is between 1500 and 1800
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Got some new measurements:
Nut size - 2 cm diameter at beginningMiddle of nut - 8cm circumferenceBeginning of outside shaft- 10cm circumferenceDrive shaft inside the boat- 10cm circumferenceDistance between gear box and shaft outlet- 15 inchesDistance between drive shaft beginning outside and end outside- 4 inchesDistance between beginning of screw and end of screw on drive shaft- 3.5 cmSize in middle between beginningng of sharf on outside and beginning of screw( not the end of screw) 9cmDistance between sharf and top hatch ridge beginning- 8 inchesDistance at bottom protective plate to shaft- 7.2 inches.Company that makes propellers asked me for reduction ration, how do I get this?Most likely to be a 12 inch left propeller. -
16 hours ago, Carl123 said:
Hi measure your shaft in side near sturn gland is .it give you a ruff idear it looks like 25mm shaft I could be wrong what size boat is it what type of gear box post a picture of gear box
Ok thanks. I'm going to do some double check measurements today. Seller is asking about reduction ration? Engine is Saab gg.
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37 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:
OK, so once you have sorted out your prop-size and pitch, prop supplier, the shaft size and taper, you now know you will need a Left hand Prop.
Perfect thanks ?
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5 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:
If that is correct it would suggest that your prop MUST be under 14" diameter, that is remarkably small.
When looking at the shaft from where ?
(ie stood at the back of the boat looking forward 'in forward' does it turn to the left - Port, and vice versa for reverse)
It does help to use the standard nomenclature of Port and Starboard
So when I start the engine up and put it in forward drive looking forward as if you are sailing forward the drive shaft turns left ( anti- clockwise) and in reverse it turns the other way (clockwise)
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I took some measurements today:
Nut size- 3 inches in circumference
Beginning of outside propeller to end of shaft- 4 inches in length.
Screw - 1.5 inches in length
Gap between driveshaft and top of ridge as seen in weed hatch picture- 7 inches
Forward drive the drive shaft turns left.
Reverse drive the shaft t
urns right.
Engine is 10bhp and rpm of 1800.
36 foot long narrowboat by 6 door wide.
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6 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said:
Someone stole your propeller????
Near impossible with boat in the water I'd say. Or was it out at the time? More to this than meets the eye, presumably.
It's got a really big weed hatch and propeller can be reached very easily. It was in the water at the time but I'm starting to think it was fitted by the original bodger builder of the boat and probably had wrong non locking nut on it.
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36 minutes ago, Phoenix_V said:
what happened to it?
Someone stole it but don't worry I just fitted a hidden camera on it last week. Face caught on camera... I know the person who actually stole it on camera, awaiting recovery or police will be called.
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3 minutes ago, matty40s said:
It wasn't bought from just south of Leighton Buzzard was it?
No it wasn't? I'm curious... Whats wrong with Leighton Buzzard?
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24 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:
I'm assuming the OP has been paid to take this off someone's hands just to get rid of it.
So throwing some money at it is not a total waste.
I totally agree. Spending loads of money won't get it sorted. A lot of the work on the boat I will have to do myself. I bought the boat with the view that it had a brand new BSS and everything was in sound condition but no... I will come back in a few months to explain the full situation but at the moment I can't for legal reasons. But spread the word---- always get a survey done when you buy a boat unless you are very knowledgeable on narrow boats.
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Just now, RLWP said:
Which Sabb?
Saab gg 10bhp 1960s hot bulb engine.
urns right.
Help to pass BSS and electrical issues
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Sorry I've put through the wrong link. I was meant to post the diesel cap version not the petrol one. https://www.asap-supplies.com/perko-deck-filler-0540dpdchr