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13 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:
If it all goes badly, maybe you could leave a note for your heirs to notify the forum, that it wasn't such a good idea after all.
Will do 😁
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Blackrose
Thanks for the update. I plan to move forward with just Vactan. I have messaged a member who has done it with acceptable results. Also spoken to the Company who doesn't have any concerns re being the only product in the water tank.
Hopefully it will go well. If we have any issues this summer I will give feed back. If not in a few years when I have a look inside the tank.
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11 hours ago, blackrose said:
Thanks but I'm not a fan of Vactan having used it previously in my engine room. My water tank is painted with a water-potable epoxy which required properly removing the rust mechanically rather than converting it. I did that 7 years ago so the next time it needs painting it'll be a case of keying the surface of the existing epoxy and adding another couple of coats. If there's any rust those patches will have to go back to bare metal.
Hi Blackrose
What was the result in your engine room?
Thanks
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On 25/03/2024 at 22:16, blackrose said:
Suddenly the idea of having to get into my integral tank to clean it out and repaint it doesn't seem so bad...
Check out Vactan thread to use in water tank to derust it.
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I didn't know the water companies dump untreated water into the canals
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Dave: I should have read the notes below in the report 😔
Thankfully the summer cruising will not be effected 😎
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February 2024 CRT Reservoir Watch report shows the reservoirs supplying the Shropshire Canal and Staffs and Worcester Canal are at an historic low. They have dropped 33% in one month. Considering the amount of rain the country has had I am guessing CRT have emptied a reservoir.
I hope this doesn't impact on the summer cruising period 😞
Is anyone aware of any issues?
https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/specialist-teams/managing-our-water/reservoir-watch
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On 24/11/2023 at 08:09, Sea Dog said:
Since I last went through (late September) they've put a baffle on the outfall of the bywash on that lock. Someone else may be able to say how effective that's been, but the brickwork on the offside of the entry will doubtless be grateful for it! I think that's scheduled for repair too.
Went through this summer. If someone is emptying the lock above this increases the flow. Tip wait until the lock above is not being emptied.
A tip we received from a CRT volunteer is to open one of the paddles of the closed gates. This may / will reduce the flow of force at the bywash.
Hope this is helpful
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Use canal planner. I put in four counties it states the following: This is a trip of 110 miles, 1 furlong and 94 locks. It will take 60 hours and 50 minutes which is 8 days, 4 hours and 50 minutes at 7 hours per day.
Places to visit.
Trent and Mersey, Between Rode Heath and Red Bull Services try and visit National Trust Little Morton Hall.
Shropshire Canal: Secret Nuclear Bunker, Great Cheese Shop in Northwich, Great Heywood Farm Food Shop ( if you have friends with motorhome they can park here for the night free )
Canal planner link.
https://canalplan.uk/index.html
Don't forget to sign up for Canal River Trust notifications. Good to know you are not traveling into a lockdown 😜
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Has everyone read this week Boaters Update from CRT? A very interesting topic of people being under insured.
This is the message:
The importance of boat insurance small print
I’m sure we’ve all done it at one point or another. You get handed what feels like War and Peace to sign and skim the small print before adding your signature. While it would be great for us all to have access to a contracts lawyer to pick over the detail, we generally take the path of least resistance and sign.
Most of the time this act of abandonment doesn’t come back to bite us but River Canal Rescue, the breakdown and emergency assistance firm, suggests that boaters might want to take more care when it comes to insuring their boat.
It is calling for boaters to check their Terms & Conditions if they have a third-party insurance policy, as many will leave them unable to recover costs for a vessel refloat, removal and pollution management if their boat sinks.
RCR says it’s aware of a number of insurance companies that are capitalising on the demand for cheap policies by modifying their terms & conditions, including removing some common third-party risks or adding them as optional extras.
This, says managing director, Stephanie Horton, is causing major problems for owners, who due to unclear Policy Information Documents, are unaware they’ll be left to foot the bill for vessel refloat, pollution management and environmental damage claims, should their vessel sink.
“While most third-party policies will support ‘salvage’ – vessel sinking – claims, as there’s a risk you may cause damage to the environment and other vessels, do not take this for granted. Boat age is another issue; although a standard policy covers specific age-ranges, insurers can exclude certain vessels, or will only insure with a survey, not a BSS certificate, so it’s important to check.” RCR is also concerned about claims handling, saying a number of insurers fail to appreciate boaters’ circumstances or support them during what is usually a very traumatic event.
Stephanie continues: “The emphasis is generally on claimants to limit further damage, organise estimates, report on what’s happening and pay for the work. Most insurers don’t take into account if you’re on holiday, you cannot progress the claim as you would if at home, and if you’re a liveaboard, and have just lost everything including your bank cards, phone and personal possessions, you’re not in a position to take any of the above actions.
“Before buying insurance, check the policy exclusions and optional extras, and ask how your claim will be processed if your vessel sinks or is at risk of sinking - is there a 24 hour helpline and online support?”
To help boaters navigate third-party policies and claims handling procedures, RCR has compiled two insurer comparison tables. Where possible its team checked all available policy documents, but this may not cover everything, so use only as a guide. Similarly, the claims handling data is based on general claims, and each case may be different.
RCR and its subsidiary, Canal Contracting, report that they respond to hundreds of incidents resulting in insurance claims every year and regularly witness insurance policies failing to meet customer expectations and variations in insurer claims handling. Its Incident Care team helps boaters manage insurance claims and reduce risks following an emergency – call 01785 785680 to find out more.
The attachment RCR findings.
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On 24/10/2013 at 23:17, Doug_ said:
We did the above 3 years ago, no problems to date. Will check it again next year.
Hello Doug
Did you check your water tank?
Do you still have just Vactan on he inside of the water tank?
Cheers
On 04/03/2012 at 12:03, Lewis 53 said:Hello Lewis
Did you check your water tank?
Do you still have just Vactan on he inside of the water tank?
Cheers
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Hello Dave
Did you Jotamastic on the inside of your water tank?
Have you had any issues from using it?
Thanks
Steve
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On 28/11/2022 at 09:29, Creaking Gate said:
Weils diseases (leptospirosis) can be caught from rat urine (typically female) and from cattle urine. Its a myth that only rats can pass it on.
My Aunty died of Weil's Disease. Her dog played in the local river or pond and it's thought she picked it up off the dog. Before the hospital realised what it was her body started shutting down.
I was passed on these attachments which have been given to CRT staff and Volunteers.
I plan to keep these on my mobile and if we are unwell having been on the boat , canal we. Can bring it to the attention of the Doctor, Hospital.
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On 23/04/2022 at 18:42, captain flint said:
Well, if you're not seeing funny coloured water I guess that's a good sign...
I've just done the prep and the first coat. I think it's going on my never to do again list!
Captain
What products did you use?
What is the tank like now?
Thanks
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On my manual printed off from the internet no mention of grade, just a purchase code.
Previous used API CC 15W/40 by Engine Plus.
I think I will pick this up from somewhere 🤔
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Hi
I am carrying out a Isuzu engine 35 oil change.
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Re Isuzu 35 oil change.
A supplier suggested Morris oil 10 W 40 is better than 15 W 40. Apparently works at a lower temperature therefore better for the engine.
Is anyone using 10 W 40 for this engine?
Cheers
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3 hours ago, BEngo said:
Much easier to use the pump to blow the water out. Put a T piece between the pump and the tank valve. Run a pipe from the Tee up to above the top of the water tank and fit a valve or a radiator bleed screw at the end.
Shut the tank valve, open the bleed valve and run the pump with the tsp open until water stops coming out.
Remember to close the bleed valve before opening the tank valve, though if the bleed valve is above the tank no water will emerge if you forget.
The calorifier, if fitted, will still need to be drained from its base.
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Previous years I have disconnected the cold water infeed to the hot water tank. Open a valve at the bottom of the tank with the view water would come out. Sadly nothing happened.
Thanks to everyone for your replies
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4 minutes ago, Jen-in-Wellies said:
Could be a thermostatic mixing valve? Stops the water to the taps getting to scalding temperature when the cauliflower is heated by the engine coolant.
Usually looks like this. No idea what pushing air through it would do.
Found a photo of it. It's the Tritton fitting which looks to be showing water going one way.
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Re water antifreeze I use
non toxic antifreeze for fresh water systems installed in boats, RVs and caravans.
16 minutes ago, Tracy D'arth said:Its still August! WHY SO SOON! Do you know something we don't?
Been out from mid June. Now doing other stuff. Normally out from mid May to end of August.
This year weather hasn't been good, not enough sun and too much rain. Rain good for the canals 😄
3 hours ago, Jen-in-Wellies said:If no one can come up with your phantom product, you could make one. Use a 15, or 22mm end stop. Drill a hole in the end to take a push bike schrader tubeless tyre valve. This will seal to the hole when the lock nut is tightened. Install to a T fitting, with perhaps a stop valve in between it and the pump. I've not done this, as I'm on the boat all year, but see no reason why it shouldn't work.
I spoke with a narrowboater said he emptied the water from the system including the hit water tank. He connected it to the shower fitting in the bathroom. He said he pushed out the water from the hot water tank with air.
My concern with trying this is, there is a fitting after the hot water tank that seems to be something re water pressure. I am guessing it only allows water to pass through it in one direction. Any thoughts on this?
The fitting in photo is similar to the fitting he used. The shower hose is fitted to the 1/2 outlet. The car valve is fitted in the 15mm compression side.
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I am winterizing my narrowboat. I normally empty the water tank. I isolate the hot water tank with a bypass valve. Then add water antifreeze into the water tank. I then pump this round to each tap and toilet to protect the water pipes / taps from freezing.
I am aware there is a way of blowing the water out of the pipework and water tank by blowing air through the pipework. I understand there is a Whale product / valve that can be fitted after the water pump. At this point you connect a bicycle pump to the fitting and then blow out the water through the taps.
Is anyone doing this?
Is anyone aware of the whale valve?
I have carried out a Google search and sadly cannot find it.
Thanks
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On 11/04/2023 at 12:34, Lady C said:
I had a 'plastic' tank put in mine years ago. It's quite solid not one of those plastic bag affairs. I used to black the integral tank every Spring until I found I was still getting rusty water because the inside of the feed pipe had corroded. No regrets (yet).
Hi Lady C
Can I ask who fitted the plastic tank for you?
Thanks
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11 hours ago, MtB said:
Ok thanks. So another Shoreline that's given a good decade of use.
Did you try shorting out the thermostat?
Re thermostat, not yet. I will at the end of our cruise just in case things go wrong 😞
Thanks
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1 hour ago, MartynG said:
Yes Patio Magic does work but it can also damage the windows in the canopy .
Recently I tried laundry detergent which has been good but perhaps not perfect. I used the biological type. Maybe the non bio is better ?
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The exterior is ok. Because the cratch is cloth I would probably try the mould cleaner Kinver
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2 hours ago, MtB said:
How old is it, out of interest?
Mine was 15 years at least and still working well when I sold the boat.
The fridge purchased 2010. It came with the boat.
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