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2 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:
Is she sharing the boat witt you ?
Will you be needing a 'double' electric blanket ?
Typical [male fantasy]
try this
http://www.abnb.co.uk/boat_pages/3156web/3156abnb.php?BoatID=3156
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15 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:
Not sure that someone looking to do this would immediately think of reading a thread called "Not got a boat yet"
And I thought you were my #1 fan
the electric overbanket is bit of a light hearted theme on this thread, but it is kinda relevant, in that I need to have some electrical flexibility..
I will carry a hurricane lamp, a solar lamp and a big brute of a torch, plus a few tea lights as a back up, but in winter, I want to be comfortable, not camping.
What about SANDRA?
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35 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said:
60% means 60% of fully charged or 40% discharged.
With CH it depends what you mean. To install or to run. If its the latter then it again depends upon the fuel it uses. It probably goes gas as most expensive, then diesel, then solid fuel. I have yet to see any kind of central heating boiler that does not discharge to the exterior.
So............... the batteries would show 8volts [?], or what?
IF, I know the revs for max alternator output, would that be a fixed throttle setting [revs] or does the alternator output / ability of battery to accept charge vary as the battery charges up?
I am a bit nervous of running the engine with no load, as I thought its better to load even if it means running for longer. Or is that negated by a bit of engine running under load.
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http://www.abnb.co.uk/boat_pages/3156web/3156abnb.php?BoatID=3156
where would I site the stove? I am thinking aft, so I can refuel at 3.00 am
Should I look at a Refleks stove for economy and "cosyness" How much would it cost to get that fitted
I'd probably beef up the batteries with a minimal invertor [for my electric blanket?].
Would the gas CH be very expensive, I assume it would discharge moist exhaust to the exterior, not the interior
Do I ckeck the battery, then go for a 30 min cruise / charge if it is on 60%, what is 60%? Do I need a a multi meter , red wire to red terminal post? The other one on the negative post.
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10 hours ago, Athy said:
You may not have missed much. Bearing your earlier comments regarding your requirements in mind, both boats are going to be too short for you, and Runcible, with its small portholes, would probably be too dark as well.
You may well be right, the small boat would have been a two/three year "trial", but it would have been very easy to manoevre on a river, and I expect my early years might involve a lot of summer cruising. if the interior of a boat is light, that might compensate, but in winter, one has few daylight hours anyway, but the swan hatches have perspex window inserts too.
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18 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said:
That's a tough one. We have an electric blanket, its only used the first night on board when we go to the boat in the winter time so maybe only 4 times a year. Some things are seasonal. The slow cooker only get used in the summer months but goes back ashore to be used at home in the winter. I have never used the anchor and that's been on-board for 14 years
When I worked for Birdseye Foods we had a new stores manager, the first thing he looked at was stock level and frequency of use. In April one of the mechanical department went to the stores to draw 24 pea harvester cutting knives and there were two. The reason was the new chap had looked at usage and seen that they hadn't been any drawn for 12 months so reduced the stock level to 2. We only overhauled the pea harvesters once a year and used them for a month.
I only ever bought one overblanket, it was wonderful, and nothing like the traditional underblanket. At the first shiver, it would be on my shopping list.
I would tend to avoid heating a kettle using gas, as I think the SF stove is dry heat, and I'd want to keep moisture levels down.
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8 hours ago, WotEver said:
Bear in mind (many don't) that the electricity used daily doesn't actually come from the batteries, it comes from your generation, be that engine/alternator, generator, solar, wind, or shore/charger.
The more you use on Monday the more you have to generate on Tuesday. Not generating as much as you use is very common and leads to rapid killing of the batteries.
Yes, they store what you generate
Use less and you have to generate less.
Yes, I need to keep puting energy in , in fact I think that they should be used and topped up, rather than left to die a long and lingering death. But if I only use a little bit every day, I don't have to top up every day.
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4 hours ago, Neil2 said:
It's strange isn't it that people say they want to take to the canals to escape the rat race, or for the slower pace of life, and then start ranting about the lack of ruthless efficiency..
When did I say something like that?
Is answering a business phone now considered ruthless efficiency?
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5 hours ago, Mike the Boilerman said:QuoteQuote
"You have a lot to learn about canal ways, Grasshopper.
This 'customer is king' bollux promoted by them as lives on the bank is not generally accepted here on the cut.
I find it quite refreshing actually the way the supplier knows he has something YOU want (i.e. the product or service) as well as you having something the supplier wants (i.e. money). So the relationship is actually 50/50 and when the punter wants what the supplier has then it is a two way street.
Posts like yours above are not going to endear you to a broker who happens to have a boat you want to buy. [UNQUOTE]"
But they don't have the boat I want to buy, in spite of advertising it, how can I deal with people who do that sort of thing?
I really don't want to spend £30K on a photograph of a boat, and one which has no mooring, with a "vendor" who has no paperwork. The folks who are selling boats are not on the cut, they are living in bricks and mortar.
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8 hours ago, mrsmelly said:
Ahh links to a boat.....yep and await the incoming
well ... ain't you right lol
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1 minute ago, Alan de Enfield said:
Are you on a :
looks like it, maybe a dynamo would provide light?
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34 minutes ago, Meanderingviking said:
Free in that you will be running stove any way for heating boat. Batteries yes, but they need daily charging and if they fail no electricity available, unless you're on shoreline. The blanket will be 240v so inverter needed to provide you with 240 v from 12v batteries, so another cost. The hot water bottles are just a suggestion for a less energy intensive solution to warming up the bed, personally an electric blanket is not something I would choose to do, of course you will find what's right for you.
But the leisure batteries should be capable of warming an electric blanket surely, even if there is some loss via the invertor, I don't get this argument at all,, to me the whole point of having batteries is to provide electricity, in a stored form. if you don't use it, why have it?
A small invertor is quite inexpensive. Maybe 2/3v bags of coal
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4 minutes ago, Meanderingviking said:
Ha ha they all complain! Free hot water still cheaper than electric though
Its not free though, you need to buy coal, and Newton passed various Laws, ensuring there was nothing free in the world ever again.
Electricity from batteries is available, why not use it? else why have batteries?
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From past experience, you need a partner who is willing to warm up the bed for you without complaint, but solo sleepers need electricity, it will be cheaper, in the long run.
The electric overblanket is a different generation, its like sleeping in a warm cocoon.
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5 minutes ago, efanton said:
I know which is why there are apostrophes around the might
I was pointing out the fact that even if the water was capable of cooling anything the insulation in a cool-box would prevent it.
I know what you meant, essentially the water has to be at least 10 degree LOWER than the contents, whereas it is more likely to be higher than the contents when purchased from the chill section of Tesco, with a packet of frozen veg on top to reduce temperature
We might keepfood for 24 hours before consumption is needed, the use by dates assume good storage, so are irrelevant.
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2 minutes ago, efanton said:
Well if it was a totally rubbish cool-box the water 'might' cool it down a bit, but not to the degree of preventing milk going sour over a day for instance. A cool box by design either has a vacuum in its sides or insulation. That vacuum or insulation is going to prevent the water cooling anything except the outer shell of your cool box.
If you are thinking of using a cool-box as a stop gap before you can install a fridge then get one that plugs into a car cigarette lighter. A couple of crocodile clips would allow you to connect it directly to a battery. (of course I assume this battery will be charging from time to time and you wont run it flat using a cool-box over long periods of time).
As has already been said I personally would not put any food or drink I might want to consume anywhere where it might be contaminated by canal water.
The temperature will be too high anyway, we are not talking about glacier meltwater.
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omg, you would not put food in the canal water, what are you thinking of!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wash your mouth out with neat Dettol .
The water must not be touched as it is very likely to kill you.
In years gone by, I mean before Lidl coolboxes, and even before there were cigar lighters, we used to caravan: milk was kept in a white box under the van, and we poured water in to a dip in the top, something to do with the Latent Heat of Evaporation. If no fridge, it is best to live on fries for a fortnight than risk pork pies for a day.
In a farm dairy, we used several clay flowerpots which we soaked with water, I can't recall the exact method, that was for butter which went almost liquid in summer.
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11 hours ago, lulu fish said:
My friend recently had a similar experience when trying to view a boat there.
That does not surprise me, but I hope the owner of RUNCIBLE gets in touch with me and we can guillotine their commission.
I won't be visiting Tattenhall if they can't even sort this glitch out at another marina in the group. ...
Proverbs 13.20
essentially ............"By your company, you will be judged"
OK, its now 16.30, someone phoned, a few minutes after I cancelled a viewing because I was not happy with them [they did not respond to any other contact]. Seems the boat I liked is sold,.... obviously the Q is, why is it on their For Sale list? ............ well damn me, maybe cos it is bait: little fish catch bigger fish ............
and its still out there, somewhere, bobbing in the water......................
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OMG,
bloody idiots,
so, i try to view a boat, its called RUNCIBLE, and it looks as though it is for sale.
It is advertised as for sale thru/at Saul junction Marina, but they told me to talk to someone who does not have the boat on their books, So that wasted most of the am.
I then could not get the marina to answer the phone at Saul, so I asked the marina manager in the same group to deal with it, aparently its nothing to do with him. It seems they don't answer the phone! Not that he got back to me.....
Well wtf, I suggested it all looked fishy , and he asked me to retract my statement, lol. I suggested he contact the MD of the company and tell them what has happened. I don't think he will, after all: quote "its nothing to do with me"
I am a bit old fashioned, me, if a customer is unhappy, it IS something to do with me!
So , viewings requested 1
viewings accepted 0
impressions of lakeland leisure boat sales on a scale of 1 to 5, = 1, and that is only cos they actually have a telephone. Though they don't answer it very often.
EDIT impression on a scale 1 to 5, , zero.
They panic when they realise they have lost a sale, and the bait failed.
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Runcible, defo a one man boat
http://www.lakelandleisureboatsales.co.uk/boat/runcible
and
Blue Moon which is for sale by Steve at ashboats,
no date of launch, but the woodworker wasalso the hull builder ............. Dave Erwell
its at a marina near Tattenhall
I cannot get my cut and paste to work, sry
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2 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said:
The negatives :
2 batteries (one of which is probably for the engine) is far too small a set-up for liveaboard
Engine missfire
Engine cooling issues
Does not appear to have any 'mains' set up (apart from the inverter)
What size inverter ?
Gas water heater in bathroom - Not allowed on a liveaboard boat - will need re-plumbing / moving (BSS failure)
Put-Up bed - every night make up the bed, get bedding out of storage, every morning put bedding away, put bed slates away, re-make the setee. (It doesn't sound 'much' and for odd weekends it isn't, but, EVERY night ?
Almost 30 years old, and built by an 'economy' builder.
200 litre water tank is far too small (we currently have a 1000 litre tank) for a liveaboard.
Hull 'history'
Positives :
Cassette toilet
Squirrel stove
Are you referring to the Liverpoolboat?, I just put this one up as astarting point, are you saying they build to a minimum hull spec??
It IS only £23K, but fairenouff, noBSS. Is there a different standard for a liveaboard BSS to nonliveaboard? .That can't be right?
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Liverpool Boats1989, has a stove but no separate bedroom, and engine needs a damn good service
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232331967735?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
I lovethisone, its go anywhere, bow thruster and good engine for the river, no separate bedroom, but I suspect the area near the stern makes up in to a bed for summer use.
http://www.lakelandleisureboatsales.co.uk/boat/runcible
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On 2017-5-12 at 13:37, Tony Brooks said:
I suspect that initially your mobility may well improve because that is what I find after a summer on the boat BUT I am sure that eventually you will find not only moving the boat but also routine maintenance of the boat and its equipment will get beyond you. Then the boat will become more and more difficult to live on and have a decent quality of life. I am sure many of us on here have seen boats where for one reason or another the owner has lost the ability to care for it and in many cases themselves adequately. How many years that will take is of course unknowable but what I will say is that I will be selling the boat in the next few years because I recognise boating will become dangerous with an increasing lack of mobility and strength AND that suggest I will not longer be able to look after it. I am 73. Then there are the increasing appointments for doctors & hospitals etc.
Please give this lots of thought. At least with a flat you have a Local Authority who more or less are obliged to take some care of you. I bet if you are living on a boat in a way that means that you do not pay council tax it would be very difficult to access the small amount of help a Local Authority will give.
Still if you think that you will remain active and with good health and strength until almost the last then go for it but please give it lost of thought.
Yes, I thought about it: thing is that one problem with current flat is maintenance, it keeps draining my capital, and this is just keeping up to date, the new kitchen [essential] , cost about 4K, and I did quite a lot of work myself, the electrics have still to be upgraded, I think they will be another £500,and there is another £500 hundre to spend , this is all to bring the flat up to spec for selling.
It would be just too sad to contemplate living here just because I want to access LA care, that is just terribly depressing.
If I was obviously unable to cope, I could move in to a marina, pay Council Tax and then ask for help, it might be possible to rent a flat and claim benefit, this is something I have no experience of, I am just too independent to get involved in that.
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1 minute ago, Alan de Enfield said:
You can if you know how much electricity they use, and, how to replace that amount (+20%) in addition to all the other electric consumption.
You can have whatever you want (microwave, toaster, deep fat fryer. immersion heater, hair dryer, etc etc etc) but your boat must be equipped with methods of daily replacement of the usage .
Probably one of the biggest difficulties / questions asked on the forum is "I have bought new batteries but my lights still go dim at night - what can I do ?"
You need to become your own power-station - tied up in a marina is a no-brainer, you have your electricity 'on-tap' just like a house.
I am used to boat living, and now we have LED I can have good lighting without draining the batteries, I had an oil lamp which took the chill off te cabin, but a boat cabin is somewhat smaller than the interior of a NB.
May I post links to boats I am considering?
Not got a boat, yet
in New to Boating?
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yes, no worries, its just for emergency use if all else fails, and probably can hang outside.