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I spotted it yesterday - I've never seen one before and I agree NOT for canal use with that drive set up and likely to be quite hard to sell on again - if it still interests you keep an eye on it as I suspect it will be around for a while and might be a steal in October!
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28 minutes ago, Tam & Di said:
Another puff for the DBA - not only info on the boat buying aspect and associated repair/maintenance issues, but also practical matters re long term visits, communications etc etc. "Drivable" is still unclear - you presumably have to factor in being in the Midlands from the address you give, but we do SE England to central France (e.g.Burgundy)in a comfortable day, or the Midi would be perhaps two slightly longer ones. Being based in Burgundy would anyway allow you to cruise on down to the Midi for the summer if that's your thing. One thing to bear in mind is that boating on continental canals and France in particular is very different to doing so in the UK, and generally freer of rules and restrictions. On the other hand services such a fuel and water are few and far between, and pump-outs almost non-existant. Tank sizes need to take account of that.
Unfortunately Brexit does raise its ugly head - as things stand at present it will only be possible to visit without having a visa for maximum 90 days in any 180, and the 180 days start from the moment you first land on continental soil. That means it is not even possible to roll two 90 day periods into one, and there is still no clear information about visas. There is also some possibility that a boat bought in England after 31st December and then taken to France could become liable to VAT if it is there more than 6 months; a boat bought now while the UK is still part of the EU should be OK as long as it has a comprehensive paper-trail detailing VAT paid etc.
Tam
Thanks for all that and esp the VAT bit - that's worth more thought ...........................
re "driveable" I should have said as an example we don't want a boat on the Med in Greece as we would have to fly there - we're not doing planes for the foreseeable future as we are both in different at risk groups.
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Hey that entrance isn't wide enough??? ?
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On 29/06/2020 at 14:38, Batainte said:
Been on the lookout for a decent Silent Portable Generator (price vs. quality) and so far havent found anything that i could relate to budgetwise.
After having touched on this topic, people mostly on the forums stand by a variety of manufacturers such as (high to low cost):
1- Honda,
2- Hyundai,
3- Yamaha,
4- chinese makes on the lower end of market.For the latter it obviously reflects on quality over a period of time.
Albeit not in the range of low to medium budget, the general consensus is that all the glory is taken by Honda- youd get what you pay for and the
equipment would last a lifetime.
Followed by Yamaha as a cheaper cousin of Honda.. its reminiscent of choosing the second or third cheapest drink at the bar- cant go wrong, but cant go
full potential either.
Yamaha's older models apparently have proven to have a good reputation over the years by its users, however it appears they havent kept up
with their quality nowadays.Since it would be more convenient to have it as a back up, rather than switching engine on when battery bank goes low during the evening hours etc.. Initially was intending to purchase a budget diesel/petrol powered portable silent generator to power all appliances on the boat (when necessary i.e. "flat batteries"). However considering the investment it only makes sense paying a little extra and paying only once, rather than ending up with two/ three budget low end units which have have to be replaced every other year or so.
Based on gathered intel and basic requirements, would anyone be able to comment in regards to this matter?
1. Required power output for generator in range of 3 - 3.5kw.
2. Perhaps anyone has had experience, and could share some wisdom on German manufactured MIL SILENT 8500W generator? Are they reliable?
3. Does anyone use Hyndai HY3200SEi or any other Hyndai generators? Would like to stay on the safe side by ordering the 2nd/3rd cheapest drink...
4. What could be your best recommendations for a reasonably priced and decent silent generator?
Ta'
We've used Hyundai and Kippor and a Honda sub-brand ems or something like it (in a blue case - others will know)
All good - if pressed I would say the Kippor was the better item.
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On 24/06/2020 at 09:06, Naughty Cal said:
Not sure it is really worth getting wound up about having to shut a lock gate!
I agree but ..........................try doing Tardebigge with a lazy boat in front
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21 minutes ago, Athy said:
I know you did, and I can't remember.
My underlying point was that your topic heading was perfectly acceptable. It's a commonly-used expression, e.g. first-time visitors to Cropredy Festival are always known as "Cropredy Virgins".
My "underlying" point was perhaps the reference to "virgins" would be deemed politically incorrect but I suppose I didn't assign any gender - after all us grumpy old men who apparently dominate this site do have to be careful ?
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51 minutes ago, Dav and Pen said:
It very much depends on your budget which type of boat to have. We brought our barge in Belgium and spent 18 years doing much like you suggest spending April to End Sept on board and traveling the waterways. There are many locks on the smaller 38m canals and a steel boat suffers the least. There is no point having a narrow beam and the extra space makes life much easier especially considering summers often reach 35 plus. Many of the mooring places have power which is either free or a small cost so 230 volt equipment can be used. Another consideration is that on the big rivers there are long distances between locks so a comfy wheelhouse gets you out of the weather and allows sitting down.
It’s a good idea to hire and as suggested Brittany in nearest but to get a better idea of France I would suggest Burgundy and the Nivernais canal or the Loire canal. Le boat and Locaboat have bases on these canals and although they both use grp boats It will give you an idea of what’s involved.For your own boat you will need an ICC and a VHF licence but these are no necessary for hiring.
Thanks,
My initial thoughts were that steel would be very hot - I do like being outside my boats and find the temperatures that even the UK can get the steel shell up to very frustrating if I want to wash/polish something - even my recent Hardy 25 is sooooooooooo much better to enjoy good hot weather in and move about.
Sorry - budget is pretty much what it takes but around £100k so long as I can be reasonably sure to get it back (excl running/maintenance costs) as it is my pension pot!!
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1 hour ago, Athy said:
Of course it hasn't been: some of us like France.
May I suggest that you talk to Blue Water holidays in Yorkshire about hiring. They are agents for Locaboat in France (and other countries) and are very approachable.
We have hired pénichette 935s from them on several occasions and have found them well laid-out and comfortable for 2 people.
Buying one here and taking it over there we have no experience of, but it sounds an unnecessary complication.
"Driveable" means different things to different people - do you mean close to the Channel ports? If sop, Brittany's canals may be what you seek.
I meant "virgins" but I guess you like them as well!!!
Thanks re BWH - will do......
Sorry - driveable location means we don't want to be based (abroad) anywhere we would have to fly to
I like the idea of buying a boat here and getting to know it whilst VERY local to contacts and our home and then taking over a boat that is ready for use - it may be overcomplicated but I'm also thinking of something to do next year that feeds the long term goal without actually leaving home until 2022 when both Brexit and covid might be better understood by us all (or not)
50 minutes ago, Onewheeler said:The DBA barges.org is a good place for advice on purchase. The torykip special policy might make VAT on movements complicated and I have no idea what the current position is. I've got a 1/6 share in a barge which works for me, but if buying, and especially for the summer months, I would go for something under 15 m and probably cruiser style rather than barge (although Piper do some lovely boats under 15 m). The reason is that moorings in marinas etc are becoming very much geared to boats under 15 m or 12 m - lots of finger pontoons. Fewer issues with width, pretty much all moorings will take something of 4 or 5 m.
As far as trying is concerned, you won't learn much on a hotel boat. Plenty of hire options, Le Boat is everywhere.
Don't forget that someone on board must have CEVNI, an ICC and VHF ticket if owning a boat in France. For hiring you just get in and go.
Thanks these are the tips I was looking for - its strange to be on the same side as the "I'm thinking of buying a boat and living in London" brigade - its been a long time since I've admitted to not knowing what I'm talking about!
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I thought the title might get certain members attention - (if it hasn't already been "modded" out!)
Having sold Zulu we are looking at the possibility of having a "base" of some sort abroad (but driveable - no flying) for use over the Apr/Oct period and at the moment are thinking to do this on a boat of some sort in France - winter months and heating/condensation/insulation won't be an issue as she would be laid up.
Two basic questions -
We want to hire, as soon as the virus plus common sense allows, but do we self drive/hotel boat etc etc to best find out what its like - so we would appreciate your input based on actual experiences
If you are already doing this or have done it - where do I go to get more advice and what thoughts do you have on type of boat steel grp penichette - what I would like to do is buy a boat over here and use it and get it sorted through next year and then ship it out there in 2022 for how ever many years knowing that if needed it was of a type that could readily be repatriated and sold.
I'm trying to keep the "asset value" UK based and clear of post Brexit red tape hence I don't want to buy property
Any and all contributions would be much appreciated - please don't turn this into a Brexit thread...................
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7 hours ago, AJby3 said:
This has been really insightful and interesting as I have the same sort of budget. Sitting out this season might be the most sensible approach
I'm not sure its a case of sitting out the season per sey as it depends on what you want - if you want a 57 ftr cruiser stern reverse layout with washing machine fixed double etc etc for £55k then don't buy now BUT if you want a 35ftr with basic accommodation for £20k then keep looking and buy the right boat when you see it.
The market is hot for the everyday easy ready to move on live-aboards but not for something a bit off message like a good short boat which for some reason never seem that popular - a good well laid out 40ftr is a good single person live aboard prospect.
7 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said:I don't think that London should be used as examples of either good or bad boat handling - it is a place to itself and unlike anywhere else - not typical of 90% of the inland waterways.
99%
is it still a waterway?
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7 hours ago, ivan&alice said:
Fair enough, I did say I don't know what I'm talking about, and I did say "may be"!
The boats I've seen with a different material for the superstructure have invariably been in appalling condition, but that could be a coincidence. I've seen enough that for myself, I'm put off for life, though!
I retract my comment fully and made an edit to my original post to make it clearer that I'm ignorant
You are not ignorant - your are learning and we have been on the journey with you - you have an opinion but it isn't based on experience.
IMHO GRP is not for living on at this budget - if you have £40k plus then GRP is fine - with GRP its much more a case of what was it built for in the first place
Sadly the OP hasn't really got enough money to what he/she wants to do - where to compromise is the real question and can you then live with that.
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7 minutes ago, RP1 said:
Thanks Harold!
I have been reading the forums and have seen mixed things about GRP boats. Would you recommend living on them?
We need to know more about what you are going to do with it - is it just to be a cheap flat or are you going to go boating - will it be your only place to sleep if the winters turn nasty?
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25 minutes ago, RP1 said:
Hi lovely boat people!
I’m new to boating (I’ve been to only a handful of boats), and I could really use some advice:
https://m.apolloduck.com/boat/simolda-36-cruiser-stern/638492
Is this a reasonable price for this boat? Could I replace the wooden superstructure myself, or how much would it cost to replace?
Thank you in advance!
Riana
IMHO DON'T buy in London you will pay a premium and you won't get a boat that's been boating which is what you want - what is your max budget - then we can give you better advice - again IMHO this one is a walk away
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15 minutes ago, NB 'Wrong 'Uns' said:
What engine do you have?
This boat had a Perkins D3 but others have had DM2 HR2 P3 and 2LW - DM2 my favourite for sounds and looks but D3 was the best for power and ease.
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On this day in 2015 - Persia waiting at the top of the Bratch (Les Allen/DM2) she was probably our favourite of all our boats and perhaps should have been our last..................
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Trad every time pref with a boatmans cabin and a stove (and an engine room)
Great roof space for dogs when its dry, BMC for dogs when its wet, heating to keep you happy (and food on the go) and the engine provides somewhere to dry your clothes - and the dogs don't get under your feet
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There used to be a really good Chinese within walking distance ....................
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2 hours ago, blackrose said:
I think I've only used them once and they seemed fine, but if Midland Chandlers are so great why do some people on this forum refer to them as "Midland Swindlers"?
"Swindlers" relates (I think) to the pre Arleigh days when they were a bit top end on price BUT Arleigh addressed that but now the whole empire, as with many others, is increasing its focus on mail order which lockdown has obviously influenced as it has with every aspect of shopping
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2 hours ago, Jerra said:
Virtually all schools are open to the extent the .................
............teachers allowed (facts are right)
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5 hours ago, Peter Thornton said:
Johnson on his feet at the moment announcing the great unlocking. Very significantly, he is implying that the various measures ref social distancing, meeting up etc will become "advice' rather than law.
This has nothing to do with Johnson or the virus
Pubs are to be allowed to re- open because they were going to anyway
Schools remain closed because (overworked) teachers won't play ball even though the "little darlings" are running riot and stopping their now well fed up Mums and Dads returning to work and seriously affecting the economy.
The economy is the only driver here not the virus or public safety
Why these furlough schemes are going on for so long for so many sectors is beyond me - yes there is clearly a need but not as widely as its being abused - the construction sector is using it to buy time until the property market coughs itself back into life but with 15% deposits being the norm that ain't going to happen anytime soon.
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On 19/06/2020 at 21:08, pomkitanner said:
Thanks for the updates . To be honest I had not even considered being alone would be deemed detrimental. Its not as if I am a first timer . Anyhow lots of time to arrange . unlikely I shall be travelling anytime soon given all the restrictions . Many thanks
Try the "Wyatts" - ie Canal Cruising at Stone they have some great small boats - the Leek and Caldon makes a great cruise just the swing bridge that would be a challenge but make a brew and wait for help
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6 hours ago, Naughty Cal said:
We are quite the opposite and seem to have gained our enthusiasm for the boat this year.
that's cos the house is sorted
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1 hour ago, Steve Lee said:
Cruiser max 55', preferably reverse layout, s/s water tank,quality Wood burner,min 3 leisure batteries,cassette toilet, cratch cover,pram hood,solar panels,galvanic isolator. Been blacked,everything serviced and a survey in the last month. Not too fussy then!
But I live in the real world and it would be nice to get some of these.
So basically you are looking for the same boat as 90% of the buyers out there!
You will need to travel and be on your game - ready to go with funds in place and able to respond at a moment's notice.
Typically good ones fitting that bill sell the same day they are listed - get yourself on emailing lists and be prepared to prove to the broker that you factually have the funds in place - not " my Mums going to lend me the money"
Bear in mind this will generally be the most stressful time of your new "journey" try to enjoy it.
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12 minutes ago, Steve Lee said:
Which boat yards/brokers would people recommend for buying a used narrow boat? Between 30k and 50k, I live in the Sheffield area, anywhere within 100miles radius. Thank you. Steve
I can understand why you would want to limit the radius BUT its a very long term purchase and a lot of money - most yards will collect you from stations even now - better to travel for another hour to find the right boat - IMHO Rugby Boat Sales are the best in the business by a country mile - also a trip to the "golden triangle" (Calcutt/Braunston/ABNB/Rugby/Whilton/Tollhouse) will pay dividends.
Boat delivery by water or overland is much more common in these times and pretty competitive - use Shiply.
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Boat insurance again
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