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On 21/07/2020 at 00:48, noddyboater said:
Who ever thought that doubling the width of an average narrowboat design was a good idea has a lot to answer for.
....................that would be the New Boat Company ...................who spotted a gap in the market for floating flats on the Thames and London many many years ago
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1 hour ago, blackrose said:
Thanks. Have you ever actually had a problem with widebeams in those areas like a collision for example, or is it just the idea of big boats in those places that makes you so angry? In my experience there are a lot of narrow boaters who just don't like widebeams wherever they are. I've been slagged off on the Thames and the southern GU on more than one occasion by people telling me my boat is just a floating flat and I can't go anywhere, etc, but the truth is that these narrow-minded people just don't like anything that isn't a narrow boat. Also, when we talk about who is or isn't a boater, I think perhaps we need to keep in mind that whatever one's personal thoughts on particular types of boats, public condemnation of someone else's pride and joy isn't a particularly boaty mindset. I know I just said that the proportions of narrow boats were all wrong, so perhaps I'm being hypocritical, but I wouldn't normally slag off other types of boats and was only responding to what you said.
I have no problem with wide beam boats per sey and never have had - I suppose deep down for me the problem is the fact that the term "wide beam" is even used - its a boat and on an appropriate waterway there is no problem and no issue or need to distinguish it from any other boat.
BUT - there is undoubtedly a breed of "wide beam" owner who wants to prove they are entitled to go anywhere where physical restrictions just about allow usage without any application of common sense - the Northern Oxford being the best example I know - these are the people I have a problem with not their boats.
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6 hours ago, Naughty Cal said:
Bloody widebeams
It's a shame there are not more of these on the move on the A&C these days.
That would be great on the North Oxford ??
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5 hours ago, blackrose said:
Horses for courses. Personally I don't much like the look of most narrowboats. They're the odd ones when it comes to boat aesthetics in my opinion. The proportions are just all wrong.
My boat was built within the last 20 years, 15 years ago to be precise.... My apologies if it makes you feel physically sick.
As MANY of us have said many times - you, your boat and the way you use it are the exception which puts wide beams in a good light
Carry on cruising - my beef has only ever been with those types who think cruising a wide beam through Braunston (incl the tunnel) and up the Northern Oxford is acceptable because they are "entitled" to!
They are not boaters, never will be, and aren't part of any community I want to be part of - rant over.
Great pictures BTW ?
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1 hour ago, pomkitanner said:
Are there likely to be any unforeseen holdups that might delay me ............
YES......................
but ............ I suggest you don't ask too many more questions about "what ifs" otherwise you will lose all sense of adventure and exploring which is half the fun - you have your direction you know to avoid overnighting in Kiddy but do use it for VG/easy shopping - now look forward your chosen adventure
"Countrywide" is a good choice
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14 hours ago, doratheexplorer said:
This photo pretty much sums up the canal heading south:
NO it doesn't
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4 hours ago, Stefan said:
Hello,
I am looking to paint my boat matte black and I was hoping for some recommendations.
I would also need rust treatment, anticorrosion primer, undercoat and topcoat that works well with the matte black...I have heard some paints don't work well together.
Thank you kindly in advance
Stefan
Why??
What is the point you are trying to make by doing it
Dark Grey satin would be much better - similar look not prone to attract moulds lichen etc - if that's really what you want to do - PLEASE do consider how hot the steel will be to the touch on hot days
Kurust is a good rust treatment but last time I used it it didn't like paint on top of it
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South to Stourport every time for me - IMHO Kidderminster isn't worth the stop - so stop at The Lock at Wolverley pub just before and then do Stourport in one go the next day stopping just outside at the pub (The Bird in Hand ) if you run out of time to make it all the way - Stourport IS worth a stop
One of our favourite runs in the country
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3 minutes ago, The Happy Nomad said:
Lot's of motorhomers buy them too. As it gives more options enroute for emptying the cassette.
Wot ............. in the canal................?
And cyclists to get through pesky barriers and access loos etc - it is after open and free to all - except us of course!
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5 hours ago, Rob-M said:
If I had purchased it I would have wanted to keep the external appearance the same as this is what has always appealed to me with Thelma.
Cloth'd up fronts are also VERY useful - more than you now know - as you haven't used it yet ?
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This topic is interesting and worthy of debate but I don't understand why you have started another one when your other thread/topic was covering this issue well
I'm not trying to be funny just saying there might be more value (to you) to keeping them as one (the mods will help you do this if you want to)
IMHO you should try to keep it as original in looks as possible as it was/is a great boat which I have known for decades BUT move with the time in terms of materials and methods - others will feel differently I'm sure...........
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and.............if you do find anything - don't talk about it on here!??
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Make sure your breather is not the issue before you take the thing apart - we had a boat in the past where the breather was the issue and we fitted an in line charcoal filter available from Lee San at the time - if the breather is on the roof it will be less likely but on the boat I'm referring to it was at gunwale height and the smells never got away also we used Daz Bio washing liquid in the tank and that helped a lot (but opinions are really divided on this point) - typically a 500ml - 1L per tank use.
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4 hours ago, David Schweizer said:
Helvetia was an ex-hire boat from Braunston Boats(Hire) Ltd, but I can only recall one person making a derogatory comment based upon the boat's origins. Having said that, apart from the signwriting which was painted out, Balliol's boats did not look much like Hire boats.
Helvetia when still a Hire Boat.
I know I remember her in her "day" and much later when we moored a few boats away from you when at Napton with "Benji" and 3 dogs - just the other side of Ray and Liz - nice boat
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17 hours ago, David Schweizer said:
Are you suggesting that private boat owners will treat me like a novice?
They will - we bought an ex hire viking many years ago and were disgusted as to how we were treated before we repainted her esp when meeting at/in bridge holes.
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2 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said:
I think Caversham Boat Services in Reading have one or two small GRP cruisers they normally do as day boats but if free I bet they would hire for a few days. Seems they also do a Seamaster 27 and an Ex Broads thing
The Seamaster 27 would be a good choice as that is app a £10k boat if/when you are looking to buy........
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I would think the broads is the only place you might achieve this with both GRP and or Wood short boats and yards offering a classic experience - worth a look
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15 hours ago, ditchcrawler said:
I would suggest you tell them why you are canceling the viewing
they won't care..........avoid
15 hours ago, Tracy D'arth said:if the price is right I can always sell it on without losing too much if it turns out to be a problem boat.
Note to self DON'T buy a boat from you then?????
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Helped him a couple of years ago getting to the RN rally on the BCN - even then sadly he didn't really know where he was going - I think that was his last trip on Hecla which is now in the hands of a good guy in Alvecote who loves it.
Bob was a nice guy Old School - its always a shame to reflect on the knowledge that is lost when these characters pass on to the long pound in the sky.
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Definitely do the Oxford and you might even have time to do a day trip on the Thames (and turn around) - IMHO GU to be avoided esp the closer you get to the M25!
Enjoy
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Just a general comment IMHO you should be wary of buying an existing live aboard in a popular live aboard location (London being the worst example) - buy a well cruised boat fitted with tried and tested kit - buy in non live aboard locations/marinas (K&A and London being the worst examples) you will pay a premium - are you intending to cruise or float??
Having said that it doesn't look bad at all although I have never been keen on Nene based builders - if your photo of the cratch board is typical of the outside then it might be a bit too much..
PM sent with a suggestion
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4 minutes ago, Rob-M said:
I always wonder up to lend a hand even if it is just to close the gates when the boat leaves the lock if there is nothing coming the other way. That alone can help someone get on and move the queue quicker.
Sadly of late we have met more people thinking we are pushing them to go too fast and wanting us to have nothing to do with their safety (even when they are doing something wrong) and nothing to do with their precious boat (that was a couple literally using white gloves and handling the boat out of the lock to ensure it didn't get scratched!)
As has been said it isn't what is used to be - but then what is - COVID has just made it worse and told people to become more insular.
The best anecdote I know was a hire boat sitting in a long queue on the Llangollen properly tied up with the crew inside the boat drinking coffee waiting for the lock to be made ready for them - needless to say after they had seen a couple of boats leapfrog around them they got the picture ..................
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2 minutes ago, starman said:
Yes it’s going okay thanks - slower than expected (why did I ever think it wouldn’t be slow) but sitting on a farmyard 10 mins from home so easy to reach. No excuses for not getting on with it!
ah but sometimes being too close encourages complacency. - so long as lockdown doesn't lock you away from it .............I assume the target is cruising by the start of next season - enjoy its a great boat and will be well worth it (not financially obviously but then they never are).
J
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I do think restoration boatyards on the broads are the way forward ...................
Wide beams on the right canals
in General Boating
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I'm not quite sure what your point is here as I agree with all you have said above - it IS all about consideration for others and appropriate behaviour - a wide beam on the North Oxford fits neither of these nor does a wide beam going through Braunston or Blisworth tunnels without CRT involvement endangering all/any users - that's my point.
I may not like wide beams on the GU north of Gayton Junction but they are now a fact of life we all have to live with or go elsewhere - at least for the most part the GU can cope.