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Am now booked in tomorrow morning. So tonight at wittlesea, then through the lock tomorrow and leave the boat. Then rush like hell to get to work at a reasonable time!
Cheers
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Hello ladies and gents, I'd be grateful for some I go as Google isn't turning up much.
I'm presently at March and will do about 6/7 hours, in the driving rain, today which will take me too or past Peterborough.
Tomorrow I have to leave the boat and go back to work so need somewhere to moor up for 5 days, any suggestions? River side in Peterborough is looking good, though I don't know how long you can stay there. It also might be too close for my driving time.
Cheers
Ryan
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I went through yesterday after missing the high tide time on Friday (Paul got the time wrong!)
It was very windy and the tide was going out, had a job getting turned round, too two attempts razzing the crap out of the engine, was all very hectic. But got through.
Only 3 barges went through yesterday due to the low water (we were last) the one before us touched the bottom on his way through and we all went through against the advice from the lockies that the level was too low to be a safe passage.
It's very nice to be free though!! Day of getting rained on today I think
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Personally, I would not provoke reaction by refusing to tick the accepting conditions box; why make a point when it is legally meaningless anyway?
If you really felt strongly about it from a personal feeling that you have thereby agreed to the conditions, then attach a separate note explaining that the box is ticked under protest and does not signal acceptance of a legal contract.
But I would not bother.
Oh, I thought that it would weigh against me if I ticked it. I had thought about either crossing through the sections I didn't agree with or sending a note.
I'm not in the habit of causing more trouble than I need so I will just tick away and keep quiet then - cheers!
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I've learnt more this afternoon than in any of the other threads on this topic. Largely I think because it's all been discussion with no personalities raised, except that I would say Nigel has shown great patience and his clear explanations are really appreciated. Very grateful, so many thanks and I'm off to do some work. Thank god my accounts are finished...
I agree completely. This thread has been exceptionally informative for this forum. Either everyone is playing nice or the mods have been busy.
I would like to thank Nigel too, top efforts (as usual) in explaining things to us non-law folk.
I will be applying for a licence, buying a home mooring and rejecting the points of the new terms and condidtions in the next couple of weeks I think so will see how I get on - (unless I decide to declare CC).
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If I recall correctly its worse than that. I'll get the pic up when I get home/van.
I'm bloody right excited about exploring a new bit of water, though I am not looking forward to the seemily boring waveless, currentless and windless canals! The foot or more high waves on saturday were right fun.
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Am I entitled to a boat licence or am I permitted to have one providing I contract to abide by the Terms and Conditions?
Am I entitled to determine my own Terms and Conditions?
Are CRT, by law, entitled to impose Terms and Conditions?
If, mid-licence, those Terms and Conditions really change, as opposed to look as if they have changed because different words have been used and the position has been clarified, am I actually required to abide by the new Terms and Conditions, or can I claim that the previous ones should pertain throughout the period of the licence?
First l;ine of this is what's key to me.
Though that said they are public waters aren't they(?) so why shouldn't everyone be entitled to a licence
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I am a bit torn because on the one hand, the law is a bit inadequate and some Ts and Cs are a "good thing", but on the other hand it does run the risk of getting slightly out of hand. Bearing in mind that the law requires CRT to issue a licence if 3(?) conditions are met, all it needs is a test case whereby someone attempts to licence a boat (which is currently not on CRT waters) whilst stating categorically in writing that they refuse to accept the Ts and Cs. CRT will then most probably refuse the licence, at which point a court case ensues whereby CRT are forced by law to issue the licence anyway. Well someone must have the time, inclination and money?
This is the circumstance I am fast approaching. I have literally no idea what to do or what to buy.
Originally I was going to buy a home mooring in the aera of my family home, as I work on contract and so do not know how long I will be in one place with enough certanty. Then I would mooch about the area of my work until the contract expires and I find work elsewhere (this is the whole point of me recently buying a house that moves). But it seems pointless to do his as it looks like I'll be in the same situation as if I were declared Constantly Cruising, so why waste the money on a mooring I will rarely use (unless out of employment for a significant period). And why tie up a mooring someone else would want.
There are no moorings available in my current place of work either, so thats not an option.
Effectively I would like to be able to buy a residential mooring on a month by month basis, but the canals aren't set-up for people living on them really are they.
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Had not seen this no, but Mick from Slowome told me at the weekend that he's spoken to Paul and it were to open this week.
I took a ride down on friday and took a picture of the entrance (Denver side) at low tide to get an idea of the mud/.silt bank thats grown. I'll put it up later.
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Didn't see the for free bit.
Tape the phone to a window, though not really free I guess
Put it in a buttie bag and tie it to a pole above the boat.
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I've been pottering about while I wait for Salters Lode or a spell of suitable weather for the wash crossing and every time I have been to Ely there has always been available moorings.
Not been there for 3 weeks or so now but I would think there's still space
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Older 3 mobile plans claim to have a tether limit but actually don't seem to. This was my experience.
Unfortunately I left the country and wanted to restart my old plan but had to take out a new one, this new plan definitely has an enforced 4Gb on 'hot spot' (tethered) data (unlimited 'normal' data - un-tethered). However there is an app (iphone) available that will route your all your data usage through your 'normal', it is called mywi and works very well, or so I'm told ahem...
For the original quetion, to boost signal strength you'll need to either get the phone in a window - phone holder for a car with a suction cup. Or outside on the front deck if you have a cover.
Or the 3g signal booster that seems to be very interesting, if not a little illegal.
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Kitchen stuff is definately do-able. You just need to be aware of how long you run appliances like that for as they will murder your battery bank if used for long periods, but you will learn that sort of stuff as you go. The general rule that I have come up with for electric appliances is; if their primary function is to produce heat then they aren't going to be viable.
The rads are also fine, I have a Morso Squirrel with a back boiler and it heats 3 rads to the point where you can't touch em.
The bath is possible as others have said, but would be a utter pain to have due to the size of the water tank. I'm brand new to this houseboating stuff and water is the biggest pain in the arse so far, 400l runs out very quickly.
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I am sorry but you were, and are, coming across as inexperienced and worse still, arrogant.
The help you were offered early in the post was given in good part by people who have done this before. It's for you, as the one asking the question, to listen and sift through the information without getting arsy because that helps no-one, especially you.
The equipment you need to go to sea - it's trivial compared to the experience and knowledge you need, and once you have that knowledge you won't need to ask about the equipment. Equipment is only as good as the person using it and you don't give the impression you would even know how to deploy an anchor, use a VHF competently or legally, use a lifejacket safely. What is your experience of MOB procedures?
You are coming across as the kind of arrogant know-it-all that we see weekly in the newspapers being rescued by the RNLI because they thought they knew a whole lot more than they do.
I haven't intended to come across as arrogent, my apologies.
I am far from a "no it all", I not all but nothing about this planned venture but will be educating myself prior to it and most importantly listening intently to the pilot. I came here as a first port of call as, in my experience, that's what a forum is for. First do a search and then, if the info isn't available, post to ask for help. My point is that there has been more unhelpful and negative opinion than I have experience before on a forum. When I was admin on a mini forum one of my charges was to ensure good content rather than senseless bickering, so as to prevent threads from degenerating into...well this. I do not agree that the OP should have to sift through the posts to find the non abusive and helpful ones, if that's how the forum here is intended and how you locals want it then fair enough my mistake.
I had previously read a few posts about crossing the wash and had seen quite a few negative off topic posts about the plan, and hence why I specifically didn't ask about this and why I tried (and failed) to keep the discussion on topic!
I am massively inexperienced, I have not said otherwise, if I wasn't I wouldn't have needed to post... The idea of my post was to get experience of the equipment required to then allow me to assess if it was a financially viable. There's no point of speaking to pilots if I cannot afford the gear to get out there.
I am grateful for the info and tried to express that, more than once.
I fully appreciate the tools are only as good as the user, and yes if I had the experience I wouldn't need to ask, but as I said if you can't ask basic questions here where are you supposed to start from aye. I completely dissagree with the all the gear no idea posts, I have none of the gear and folk are making wild assumptions that I'm some rich bloke wanting to spend enough money so he can go and mess around in the sea safely. I'm completely the opposite to this, almost everything I do is on a shoe string and bodged, most my friends would consider it laughable to label me as "all the gear"! However for going to sea, I figured it might make sense to have the right kit, water scares me, you can't stop and get off when you want to.
A lack of experience is does not equal a lack of competence or future ability. I'm happy to give out a go, this is no exception.
Damn, this was supposed to be a quick reply
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Presumably you have not actually undertaken the VHF course yet.
"Over & Out" is for the 'films', that is not the correct 'sign off'.
Ha! 10 on 10 for comedy pal!
However this is internets and not VHF
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Ok, so my post about irritation was aimed at Cal specifically as I found that persons posts full of assumptions about me and generally a bit wee bit insulting.
With reference to other posts that were just offering general advice; while some were useful most were just unnecessarily negative. I feel like I asked "I'm buying a narrowboat and this Sunday I'm going into the wash, but only if there's some good waves. For equipment I just need some inflatable armbands yer?"
I am not underestimatubg the task at hand, but as yet I don't see it as I'm possible and it sounds like a bloody good adventure which is what I am all about.
The planning and prep for the trip would be thorough - which I would personally assume of a person rather than assuming the opposite, and would include a fuel tank drain and clean. The engine is my biggest concern at the moment, having had only a few hours on it, it did however perform well and at a stable temp all day Sunday at around 6-7mph up the Ouse. Just to state it as I feel certain someone will assume otherwise, the engine will be freshly serviced and checked though.
If this trip saves me a week or more it will be worth it. And I'd rather spend double the money doing this than using a lorry. My back up option is to go to Bedford and commute in from there until Salter Lode opens. If something did go wrong rest assured I would feel suitable guilty about calling the lifeboat and make a suitable donation. I've had some hairy moments in the past and but have yet to shamefully call out mountain rescue.
Some of the replies I have got here have been very similar to when I asked for advice on buying the boat. I was very grateful for some good advice received but a lot of it was rather aggressive and assumed that I had little common sense about buying anything. I've been a very big contributor to two other forums in the past and present and I've never quite experienced one as opinionated and aggressive as this - which is suprising given the relaxed nature of boating!
My mistake was giving any background info at all, I simply should have asked what equipment was require for going to sea (I titled it as sea rather The Wash to be more easily found by searchers in the future). This way an off topic escalation would have been avoided.
Anyhow some good info gleaned (such as post #14) and a great list of kit needed/suggested on page one. I'm hopeful I can find a willing pilot!
Thanks for the helpful info and non abusive posts.
Apologies for any bad English above, words aren't my strong suit and I'm on me phone.
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Daryl will take you if he thinks it's safe, if he doesn't he won't no matter how equipped you are.
I appreciate that, I'm looking forward to hearing back from him. Fingers crossed
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Because it's not about Equipment...the topic. I'm not interested in discussing it further anyway, your replies irritate me, as alot of forum posts do.
Anyhow, lots of info, looking forward to speaking to a few pilots try and get this adventure rolling. Exciting stuff.
Back on topic, would it be possible to rent a "donkey engine" - which I'm led to believe is a back-up outboard?
Cheers
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I appreciate that pal - but not knowing that I couldn't reference it, and hence "A very rough estimate"
So +10km then
Anyway, like I said it's off topic anyhow
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This has got a bit off topic now, but just to point out that the in not wanting to cross The Wash as a few have mentioned in reference to time.
A very rough estimate of distances looks like it would be around 25km from Kings Lynn (setting off in the dark from Somewhere near Denver) to a point a bit up the Nene.
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Thanks for the good and constructive comments, I've emailed Daryl and will create a My Boat topic in which I will document the prep and the trip if it goes ahead. I really don't want to spend / waste money on a lorry, so hopefully I can find someone who is willing to do it.
Cheers
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Scholar - good man thanks very much, cracking list. Shame I didn't know about this when I was docked up in Ely on Saturday. Was thinking the trip would start from Kings Lynn to maximise available light.
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Should have added;
I'm aware that I will need:
Anchor
VHF
Life Jackets
and the boat will need water ingress proofing
At this stage I just want to price everthing up, and as I couldn't find a list like this on here I thought it would be a useful thread to have
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Hello ladies and gents.
So at the weekend I bought my boat, which has been lovely so far.
Now I didn't plan the trip, at all, and as such am stuck at Denver Sluice - Salters Lode lock is out of action for 6 weeks.
I have 3 options but the most appealing to me is seeing if there's a pilot who will take me out into the wash from the Ouse and then into the Nene.
I wondered if you good people could give me a rough list of the equipment I'd require to go to sea on the Narrowboat (60ft) please? I want to start costing it up.
Cheers
Ryan
5 day mooring nr Peterborough?
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Cheers for the replies, I smashed my phone screen yesterday so lost my ability to get internets.
Well after missing the mooring at Whittlesey and falling in at the tight bend I ended up moored to a tree a few metres back from stanground lock.
Boat is now at Peterborough and will be there until I get back to it on Thursday night to continue the move.
I get messages when they announce warnings and such yep.
Terrible boat driving weather of late.
Cheers again
Cheers for the replies, I smashed my phone screen yesterday so lost my ability to get internets.
Well after missing the mooring at Whittlesey and falling in at the tight bend I ended up moored to a tree a few metres back from stanground lock.
Boat is now at Peterborough and will be there until I get back to it on Thursday night to continue the move.
I get messages when they announce warnings and such yep.
Terrible boat driving weather of late.
Cheers again