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More to come - hope I'm not boring you all!
This is a fantastic project and it's great to see the work going so well. Keep it coming - anyone who's bored doesn't have to click on the thread! (And they're probably on the wrong forum anyway)
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My boat has a tiller, does that make it small? (60ft)
Phil
My boat has a wheel does that make it big? (23ft)
Now that poster took an interest from a very long way away and made a post that could have cleared up a lot of confusion, and you two just go and cause more confusion. Have a word with yourselves!
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it really could not be any worse ?!!
Eek!
Thanks for the report Isatis. I'm intending to follow in your wake (from Brum onwards) at the end of the month (again, mostly due to the Cosely stoppage) so I'm particularly interested in your Walsall and Wyrely & Essington adventures. They sound rather worse that I was anticipating, so perhaps you could make recommendations (or otherwise) particulary on your moorings. Or maybe someone has an alternative?!
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Ah but you may have done exactly as instructed and drill a hole in the floor, which is still 6" above the baseplate innit!
MtB
True, but my notional drill was a gurt big long 'un! And who reads instructions until all else has failed?
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...some readers may have died of boredom by now!
Oh I doubt that Dave, it's (pretty much) on topic so you're audience is a selected one already. If they've read this far, I expect they'll also be interested in what you have to bring to the table. There's plenty of folk here who appreciate such skills, I'm sure.
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At our marina, the gauge on our GI deflects just enough to be detectable which reassuringly tells me the GI is not short circuit.
I'm the same Nick, just about centre. At Crick I was deflected to almost the end of the green zone, so I too am reassured. A bit. I think.
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may sound a bit mad but is your gas cylinder nearly empty?
Thanks, but I changed over to a new bottle recently and haven't noticed any change. Worth the thought though and puts another thing on the check list for anyone with the same issue reading this thread later.
That only applies when fitted in a caravan, and is to allow gas to escape in the event of a leak. I would not expect it to affect flame stability.
MtB
Thanks Mike, much appreciated. It was a professional install at Simon Piper so they'll have done a few, but nice to get these possibilities ticked off (and I didn't really drill the hole in the bottom so I don't need the bung)
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Finally in my travels I regularly see voltages up to and beyond 5v on the earths in marinas its 3.6v here which is why I use an IT
Now that's an interesting, and worrying, observation. I presume you're doing some kind of work related checks to discover this and therefore you're giving us the benefits of a professional opinion, which is great to have. With that in mind....
Am I right in thinking it's down to someone else on shore supply with a fault causing this or are there other factors involved?
If it's a boat with a fault it ought to be fairly readily identifiable, right? I mean, we just need to disconnect boats until the fault disappears and the (probably unknowing) culprit is highlighted?
I take it you inform the marinas in question - do they take any action? If yours is 3.6v perhaps it's more of a challenge than I think!
When you see these values, which are way beyond the levels a GI can help with, I wonder whether you might share the knowledge and identify those mainas with uncorrected faults so that we might lobby the owners, unplug or avoid them?
Thanks
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'Flame lift' as it's called can be notoriously difficult to diagnose. Especially when intermittent as the OP describes. I suggest a call the the manufacturer's technical help line. They will know what causes it on your particular appliance.
MtB
Thanks for your suggestion Mike - and I now know what to call the problem when I ring!
I had exactly the same symptoms on this oven.
In my case it was solved by going back to the installation instructions. Where the gas pipe entered the bottom of the cabinet that the oven was fixed in I'd made quite a large opening - about six inches in diameter. The instruction specified IIRC one inch. Once I'd reduced the size of the hole the problem disappeared.
I'm not saying that I really understood why this worked, but work it did.
Thanks, good to hear you've sorted yours too. There's so much air space behing my cooker it could be freestanding, but I've sourced a pdf of the instructions from Thetford's website and I guess this is the hole you refer to...
The appliance MUST have a gas escape hole (min size Ø 25mm; max Ø50mm; or shaped holeof equivalent area) in the floor, directly beneath the applianceSo, I've compromised and gone for a 35mm hole in the floor - does anyone have a 35mm bung thay can get to me really, really quickly??!!From a caravan web site the suggestion was to open the oven door for a few seconds after lighting for the flame to allow it to settle and then close the door. It has worked very well to date.
Ah, that's certainly something to try first! I confess I always close the door right away.
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I was a police launch cox'n for 11 years, 7 at Portland Dorset and 4 up at Faslane covering the entire Clyde coastline from Arran up to Glasgow and some of the things we pulled out of the water don't bear thinking about. It beggars belief what goes through the mind of some people. Sorry, bot off topic there.
Only a little off topic Colmac: it's still bodies and boats! Just to lure you deeper into untopic'd waters, what were you driving? I've often watched the MOD police boats either from warships, yachts or the shore down here in Plymouth and rather envied them their jobs (mind you, it's not usually a cold, dark and stormy night when I see them to be fair)! I did get to drive a big police RIB down most of the navigable length of the Tamar and out into the Sound when I was doing my Advanced Power course with the Marines one winter which was a blast, but I guess that's less fun when you're doing the sort of fishing you were doing too!
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So how about the south in or around Tavistock?
Well, the Tavy is inches deep and fast flowing in parts, whilst the Tavistock Canal itself, which is fed by the Tavy, used to run from the Tavistock to the Tamar at Morwelham Quay. The quay was the highest navigable port on the Tamar a couple of hundred years ago, but now just reaching Calstock can be a challenge even in something like a RIB if you don't get your tides dead right, although bigger stuff visits regularly to be fair. The Tavistock Canal itself looks like a challenge for canoeists, goes underground for a stretch, and enters the Tamar through a Hydro power plant, which is why it still exists I believe. If you can find somewhere to crane your boat in, you won't be going far by boat! I haven't walked all of it, but I believe it is popular walk
I think you need to treat yourself to a Devon and Cornwall holiday this year Zim and do a bit of exploring. There are some truly lovely places where you'll see boats residing, but down on the south coast they're mostly in tidal reaches so you need to scope the place out. If you don't have appropriate tickets you probably won't be able to hire a boat to explore on, but you said that you do have experience so I'd still recommend you getting hold of the appropriate nautical charts and almanacs to see where might suit your boat, your needs and your skills. Until you've done that, it's a bit like pin the tail on the donkey.
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Had exactly the same problem with a Spinflo oven. Cured it with a new gas regulator. The old one had drifted ever so slightly high pressure. The hob and Morco had no problems, and weren't noticeably different after the replacement, but it fixed the oven problems completely. This design of oven seems to be very sensitive to even very small increases on gas pressure over the spec.
MP.
Thanks MP - I'll try that after I've checked the burner is seated correctly since there's expense involved! Symptoms line up though, eh?
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check the burner rack hasn't been dislodged. the symptom is too much air. on a modern oven I doubt it's adjustable but it might have an air screw.
Thanks Alf. I haven't checked anything yet other than to see if it was windy in there (there's plenty of vent but no real draft) so too much air sounds more like it.
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PS the reference to flares is not a fashion statement.
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Having just read a post about a yellow oven flame and seen some clearly very knowledgeable answers, I was reminded of an issue I have with my Spinflo Caprice. The hob and grill burners burn fine, strong and steady with blue cones, but the oven flame has a tendency to rise above the jets, usually rising from the end opposite the ignitor and lifting like a wave before dropping back down. When initially lit, this can sometimes be to the point where it might loose the flame altogether and cut out. Too high a pressure would be my guess, though I can see no obvious adjustment and I'm sufficiently experienced a fiddler to know when not to!
Is my explanation clear enough for to someone to offer any diagnosis or advice? Thanks!
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That's sounds like the opening lines of a Agatha Christie novel.
The fact that the mouth organ was D will end up being critically important.
It took you a long time to think of that Burgie, so I think Poirot's job is safe, but it's an interesting observation nonetheless.
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That raises an interesting question, maybe an old Sea Dog can answer.
I am thinking of a warship closed up for action. A mine that you describe blows under the ship causing a large bubble into which the ship descends. Assuming minimal damage, when the bubble disperses, will the boat resurface?
I know that SANDBACH used to resurface from its bubble hole when I put her in a lock tail and raised both paddles!
George ex nb Alton retired
T'other way round George actually. The technique is that the bubble increases the punch of the explosion to cause more damage. Torpedos commonly explode some depth beneath the target to lift the ship and break its back - the damage is catastrophic rather than minimal, so when it drops back down it sinks. Probably in two bits.
Now see why I advise you don't moor near one?!
Edited to read like what I meant to say!
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Keep writing Dave! I want to know more!
ETA: Oh, and have a greenie for your efforts.
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Go, we enjoyed the canals through Manchester. Don't let sensationalist newspaper stories put you off.
Sensationalist? The Daily Star? That article? Surely some mistake!
No wonder so many areas of the canal network fell into disrepair - there simply weren't enough psycopaths to keep them viable.
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Too many bubbles under a boat will sink it. IIRC Mythbusters and BBC demonstrated this. You need plenty however!
Which is why Minol, an explosive used in sea mines, has aluminium in it. One of those would sink a narrowboat, so don't moor near those either.
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If I meet somebody in the narrow tunnels near me somebody is in the wrong and will have to reverse out
Are those two somebodies the same somebody? As written, your post might come across a bit like if you meet somebody, they're gonna have to reverse, which I suspect is not really your message.
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I've tried to take a picture of my 7 year old anodes ....... This boat is always on shore power, the anodes are in great condition.
Hmmm, what are they doing then? Just a thought!
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How's about CRT do some lock modifications so they only half fill before draining the water back out so we can check that the boat wasn't sinking? Then everyone will be safe, not just those who can afford fancy alarms!
ETA: Oh bugger, I'm heading the wrong way - back to the drawing board!
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Look, some of us are having a wonderful time alternatively speculating on how to do it, and taking the p!ss.
Another Good Idea would be a 'sinking alarm'. This would be an excellent idea to save one having to sleep with one arm dangling out of the bed and fingertips on the floor, so one gets woken up if they get wet.
You all do this, like me, right?
MtB
Fair call Mike - I hadn't realised there were folks here who might be tempted to take the piss.
Actually though, you might be on to something with the sinking alarm. I use the dangly hand method of catastrophe detection but, as I understand it, there's an old trick where you immerse a sleeper's hand in a bucket of water and it induces them to wet the bed. So, when the water reaches your fingers you might just pee yourself and sleep on. That said, if you keep an electric blanket plugged in, the resulting electric shock will acivate your leg reflexes, you'll kick the missus out of bed, then she can both mop up the flood and bring you a cup of tea afterwards since she's up anyway.
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Filled up a jerry can at Falmouth before sailing to the Scillies a couple of years ago - the pump read £650.00 after the last Sunseeker had stopped for a splash and dash, and it wasn't even a big one. Lovely boats in their way, but it strikes me that many of those who have enough money to own them spend too much time at work to get much use out of them.