Northernboater

And there are people who can do all that, get stuck in with the workers and get their hands dirty, so I wouldn't put him on a pedestal and I didn't see anything inspiring about him. Maybe a dreamer yes. Defiantly not inspirational No I don't think that, What happened to the engine did you fix it for him?

Sounds like hard work, no wonder he didn't do any on the programme as he must of been exhausted after being on Facebook and the mobile phone organising.

I think the programme just highlighted that he didn't have a clue, just like when he originally bought the boat and sank it. Or was I watching another programme?

I doubt it will ever get done unless someone volenteers to do it for free. I wonder why it didn't mention the engine in the programme or show you the sodden ribs under the floor to show they were dry once the boat was so-called finished. I suspect a lot of things were covered up just to make the programme as all it really showed was volenteers scrapping and painting. If you had watched last weeks when the Welsh guy built a holiday home out of a small trailer caravan you would of seen far more hands on work and thought going into it.

To me it looked like the volunteers did all the work as I seen very little contribution from Marcus in terms of building/repairs, a little soapy water splashed here and there, a little polish of brass and him getting excited about a flag. No wonder Rachael binned the project and him as he came across as clueless, and as he said he'd been sacked from a few financial jobs, I can see why. So well done to the volunteers as without them there would of been no programme or boat as "nice but dim" seamed to have no idea or intention of doing any hard work or knew what he was doing. Oh but he did buy an axe.

You should get a Decloration of Conformity from the shell builder when you buy a new sailaway and the RCD is required on a complete boat and if you fit it out yourself you need to keep it for 5 years in order for the boat to be exempt, that's how I understand it.

How many people keep the appliance record once the boat has passed and is it a legal requirement to keep? And tell me does the owner sign anything to declare he will not change the boat and does it state on the license application that if you have altered the boat and not got a new BSC it invalidates the current BSC registered with CaRT? Come on then give us the correct legal requirement with regards to Decoration of Conformity, RCD, RYA No, fom buying a saiwaway to self fit completion, let us know what documentation it needs at the various stages, as you stated you sold a new boat within 5 years with no paperwork, I bet it never complied.lol

How many people keep the appliance & recomendation sheet, after all once you have a pass that's all that counts and now you don't even get a Cert as it's all electronic to CaRT, as you state anyone can fit things the day after that do not comply, Wow please, please let me know when you sell,lol This is going so off topic, but I hope it gives the OP some idea of the complexity of doing it right and not to cut corners on a self-fit.

Yes, but I'm talking about self fit sailaways, yes every boat can be changed and adapted to pass a BSC, as I mentioned before let me know if you ever sell your boat, I expect you have changed yours with the grinder, lol

Yeh the BSC examiner is left wide open on self fits, as you could fit a complete fire the day after he has issued a Cert that does not comply but you have a 4 year Cert, maybe they need to change the Cert to be signed off to the stage it was examined to on self fits.

Yeh sorry about that, just not used to mobile and pressed the button too much, I think I have edited OK, Tthere is a lot of confusion about RCD/BSC/Decloration of Conformity when it comes to self-fit so the OP needs to get it right or she could end up with an unsafe boat or a boat she would find hard to sell should she wish to.

But as mentioned before you do not need a RCD if the boat is for your own use and not sold within 5 years, but I'm sure you need a BSC to get it licensed within those 5 years. Then again I have seen a boat that was tried to be sold self fit out that was obvious did not comply to BSC, when the BSC examiner was contacted about the issued certificate, he stated ithat it only had the Gas system on when he examined It and that was what the 4 Year BSC was issued on. The owners had fitted everything after and nothing complied, The BSC does not state to what stage the boat was examined at, so BSC examiner is left wide open. Maybe they should write on the issued Certificste to what stage the Cert was issued at. But as mentioned before you do not need a RCD if the boat is for your own use and not sold within 5 years, but I'm sure you need a BSC to get it licensed within those 5 years. Then again I have seen a boat that was tried to be sold self fit out that was obvious did not comply to BSC, when the BSC examiner was contacted about the issued certificate, he stated ithat it only had the Gas system on when he examined It and that was what the 4 Year BSC was issued on. The owners had fitted everything after and nothing complied, The BSC does not state to what stage the boat was examined at, so BSC examiner is left wide open. Maybe they should write on the issued Certificste to what stage when examining a self fit.

I think it all depends on what stage the sail away is completed to, yes no BSC on a shell, but if gas system is fitted then annex needs to be signed off by a Boat Safe registered fitter and does this only last for s year In order to get s license then it needs a BSC or a re examination? it is all a bit confusing dependent on what stage the sail away is at when collected from the builder, as I say it needs thoroughly researching and sometimes it's not that easy that people think on here.

I thought the RCD was only for a completed boat and the shell should come with the builders Decloration of Conformity with the relevant Annex signed by the engine fitter and any other work that needs to comply also signed off in order to get the BSC so the boat can get a license. A builders sailaway Decloration of Conformity is totally different then a RCD for a finished completed boat.

If she bought a sailway from Jonathan then she would of submitted a floor plan so the relevant windows would be in and a chimney hole, mushroom vents etc to where she specifies, as I say there maybe more to think about and plan before she gets carried away with the dream.

Maybe a good power saw and a guide rail, let me know if your ever selling your boat and I'll know what to expect when is says Professional Fithout lol

I can't really see why you would need an angle grinder for the interior wood work, what I'm saying is don't get carried away yet, There's a lot more involved then finding a shell builder and there are few marine's around Sheffield never mind one's that let you work on sailaways. Maybe she could find a dry land site to complete.

Jonathan is snowed under with work and the yard is at full stretch with orders, after all his shells have won Crick for the last 3 years, maybe with a lower grade shell builder lol.

Were you??? your boat was at Jonathan's this week??? As for Marcus why don't you ask your friends at Jonathan's what they think of that situation, especially the Lady who sold him the boat, as your close friend's. Peterboat are you off to answer his plea and the big charity crusade for cheap labour and help for his inexperienced cause? I have a holed Canadian maple canoe if anyone wants to pick it up fix and return for free, come on HELP

Thought so, best of luck, Larkshall please rotate, I think that's what you may be told to do by the boatyard.

No you don't I go to Sheffield every Month, I never see you on the visitor moorings

Agree, what is he going to do? Larkshall try rotating your pic to be taking seriously as I can't bend my neck without laughing, old people with a computer LOL Looking at the OP's topics it looks like she had a GRP before and may of sold to buy another and as these people are the only GRP sellers in that area they may of seen her coming, She is moored at Stanley Ferry and there is a large residential community there, surely she would of sought advice to the local brokerage's before buying.

Well that's the way that I do it to, I've heard bad reports about every boat blackening dock in the area, but they can't please everyone so I just take it from my own experience and a the few experienced boaters that work in the trade.

If you look at their web site there is no mention or boat sales or affiliation to any marine governing bodies http://castlefordboatyard.co.uk/home/2457097 I would take a boat there for blackening and that is all.