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  1. 9 minutes ago, Mishchell said:

    We, now just I, have been 9yrs on our boat. About 8yr ago the core plug went while on rivers in Yorkshire. My hubbybwas crafty and managed to secure a "temp" plug 😉

    Fast forward the 8yrs as his fav saying is "Don'tworry'bout it" and it held till last winter when he fell ill. 

    Since then I have been topping radiator used that expensive metal seal mechanics swear by. Had a full service, changed belts, filters etc.

    Worked perfect for a few months. Now an injectore is going 

    I have the proper parts from Bata Marine folk. 


    My question (s) is....

    How difficult is it to replace core plug? 

    2nd, as I feel I am chasing the dragon atm, I am thinking replace engine, and start anew. 

    Is there ppl whom would take part exchange for this engine, like trade in towards a new one. 

    Or should I just have this referbed? 


    Thanks in Advance

    Fix the core plug it's not hard, kubota the base engine is very tough and reliable 

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  2. 2 hours ago, kats said:

    Interesting! Where do you keep the rotary bin?

    At my allotment, but I could keep it at my moorings if I wanted 

    2 hours ago, MtB said:


    On the bank, being a boater who never goes anywhere much?



    Says the man that lives in a hovel! I am out in the boat currently where are you?

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  3. 3 hours ago, ditchcrawler said:

    I am sure @peterboat can explain it, I understand he does it very successfully  

    Yes, I have a rotary composting bin, I put all garden waste in along with poo, I also put cardboard in it and leafs at this time of year. I rotate it twice weekly and it does have worms in it, 8 - 9 months it goes into another composting bin for a few months with worms job done, so one year on its finished the mixing and worms are key to speeding the process up.

  4. 2 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said:


    Our Horses get lumps of Himalayan Pink Rock Salt a 25kg bag is ~£25 (inc postage) on the bay of E


    Pink Himalayan Lump Rock Salt mined from the ancient Himalayan Mountain, is a great source of all the essential minerals and trace elements that your horses, Ponies, Sheep, Cows and Cattle need on a day to day basis. The Pink hue of the Salt Lick comes from the Salt’s high mineral content, more notably, Iron, but also along with Magnesium and Potassium, which are all vital for maintaining Animal health.

    Himalayan Natural Rock Salt Lumps are completely natural, there is absolutely nothing added or taken away! Some mass-produced Rock Salt Lumps are made using certain Salts that have minerals added in during the manufacturing process, but that simply is not the case with our Himalayan Rock Salt Lumps. Minerals are naturally found already within the Salt, which makes it a perfect Agricultural Salt.

    Himalayan Rock Salt Lumps are as the name suggests, Rocks of Salt, Horses and Ponies and other Livestock and Cattle such as Sheep’s and Cows should not be able to bite chunks off the Salt Lumps. They are also more weather resistant and can last much longer outdoors than synthetic substitutes. Cows/sheep/goats and horses all have a very well-defined appetite for sodium chloride (SALT) only surpassed by the need for water.  Because most plants do not provide sufficient sodium for the livestock/horses needs and may lack adequate chloride, salt supplementation is a vital part of any animal’s nutritional requirement. 

    Himalayan Salt is a 550 million years old source of minerals and trace elements for livestock and horses. It is mined from the vast and ancient Himalayan Mountains; these salt licks must be the purest form of salt available. The distinctive rose-pink colour comes from the salts mineral content, such as iron, potassium, and magnesium, which are all vital for maintaining health. Himalayan rock salt licks are literally 'rock hard’, this means that livestock and horses are unable to bite chunks off the block, a problem that can occur with the softer ’pressed’ salt licks. These licks are also much more weather resistant and will not dissolve into a mush when left out in the rain, which means they can be safely left outside in the field for horses or cows to ‘self dose’. Our experience has shown that horses and cows do prefer these to other salt licks.


    Himalayan Lump Rock Salt 25 kg - Picture 2 of 2



    Any good with chips?

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  5. 18 minutes ago, Victor Vectis said:

    but the ignition barrel was frozen solid and it wouldn’t start.

    So, heat the key (match, gas hob etc) then insert in keyhole.

    and ropes were frozen

    Ahh, diddums. Where you worried your hands might get cold if you tried to untie them?

    People need to think there may be an innocent reason rather than jumping on the band wagon and hurling abuse and insults.

    But, then again, if the cap fits..........


    I came up Tinsley Tinsley flight the other day my ropes were frozen as well, that's life, boating in winter can be difficult at times, I dropped mine in the canal instant defrost

  6. 11 minutes ago, MrshappyH said:

    Hi there, can you recommend a heat store please ? Many thanks . Is it still working well ? We need the option of back boiler and wob. But don't fancy forgetting the valve and blowing ourselves up. ☺️

    Yes many years of the heat store working well, it heats via the Rayburn, the generator and the wood burner with backboiler. The calorifier is₩ sited above it heated by gravity. The heat store was a cheap purchase from ebay, it's a Calorex with multiple entry points 120 litres?

  7. 3 minutes ago, BoatinglifeupNorth said:

    There will be a mooring for you, basin or visitors, take care👍

    One of the boats is leaving on Saturday morning, so I will be ok I should think, Jayne is a juror in court for 2 weeks so that's why I have travelled up, the timing for the tram is rubbish it would be a 12 hour day for her

  8. 14 minutes ago, magnetman said:

    I'm not convinced the licence increases are hitting the old and poor boaters.


    It seems to be mostly centred around wide beam boats which apart from the obvious shanty boats are some of the most valuable boats on the canals. It is also a raid on people with moorings. My 10ft6 wide boat (a trawler style yacht not a canal boat)  which s currently on a permanent CRT owned mooring is subject to a higher licence fee increase next yar than a cc ing narrow boat.


    I think the CRT have worked out who can pay and are quite accurately targeting certain groups.




    You are in London the most expensive moorings in the UK. Also you have more than one boat and one mooring, plus you aren't paying for one mooring 

  9. 5 hours ago, Naughty Cal said:

    It's exactly what is going to happen.


    Pricing new boaters (who tend to start with smaller cheaper boats) off the water will eventually lead to the less and less boaters on the water, no "new blood" to replace those leaving due to ill health and old age.


    Why maintain the waterways for a diminishing number of old folks in narrowboats? 

    You are right, I came up Tinsley flight today it was a nightmare, 5 people to open Rotherham lock to start, Smith and i couldn't shift a gate so 3 passersby helped one in high heels! Then the weir had a huge mud bank blocking it which means you have to scratch your boat by going through trees! Most locks only have one paddle working both ends, this will eventually cause people to shun this journey. I then learned that CRT senior management and Trustees are having a series of jollys around the country at our expense! So we know why they need more money it's to fund Jollys and the extra senior management posts and their cars!!!

  10. 8 hours ago, David Mack said:


    Foolhardy I would say!

    If you drop the stern on the cill the boat is at least supported on something substantial, but trusting your life to the adequacy of a couple of chains and a few bollards of unknown strength and foundations seems more like a death wish.

    I ain't saying it's not stupid, just ingenious 

    3 hours ago, Pluto said:

    Wooden gates are generally more suitable for 18th century canal locks as they tend to distort to accommodate any misalignment of the quoins over the years. Steel gates do not distort and thus can cause pressure points on the seal. The current problems with sills on the Wigan flight may well be the result of using steel gates since the 1960s in an area affected by subsidence.

    New concrete locks perfik for the job, remember they are very large and not suited for wooden gates, maybe a complete go through of all locks to this size to future proof the canals for real freight moving boats and moving water around would be best

  11. 9 minutes ago, MartynG said:

    Fair enough if locks are considered to be of such interest that they are listed then  traditional means of construction appropriate to the original date of construction should be adopted. 

    When our waterways were upgraded in the 80s the gates are all steel construction, still in good condition and working well. Honestly I can think of no reason to keep wooden gates, these are working waterways and should kept modern and low maintenance. We can't afford to waste money on heritage when they are milking boaters dry, a lot can't afford the licence rises, so to waste it on wooden gates and repairs are a nonsense 

  12. 17 hours ago, BoatinglifeupNorth said:

    Glad they’re putting on lots of varnish to keep them waterproof and to offer them some protection from narrowboats ramming them👍

    I was just going to say the same! Never seen varnished gates before?

    5 minutes ago, Tonka said:

    Saw a guy once put chains across a wide lock on the GU from bollard to bollard. Then put boat over chains. Then drained lock. Was then seen to be blacking boat from a dinghy

    Ingenious to say the least

    15 hours ago, magnetman said:

    Also steel gates can cause damage to the lock structure because metal does not absorb shock. When gates are slammed there is nowhere for the energy to go. 


    Wood is more forgiving.





    Rubber seals on the gate edge wood absorb the shock

  13. 4 hours ago, PeterF said:

    The webinar was not the insurance industry view on the insurability of boats with lithium batteries but a presentation on the general subject of lithium batteries, it just happened to be hosted by an insurance broker (not an underwriter). The subject matter was presented by 3 technical people, a fire investigator, a marine surveyor and the owner of a marine equipment company selling and installing amongst other things lithium battery systems. The fire inspector and the marine surveyor had some experience with inland waterways and canal boats. The marine equipment man was solely offshore and large systems based and had no understanding of inland boats / canal boats. He worked with lithium battery systems that make Victron equipment look cheap! and he was one step away from detailed systems engineering so he made a number of technical errors during the presentation.


    Battery Chemistry

    The overall view provided was, as we know that LFP are very safe compared to all the other main stream chemistries such as LCO, NMC etc. although LTO was not really mentioned much. It was accepted that these were very hard to damage and generally if damaged did not overheat and combust and thermal runaway was very unlikely. The fire investigator confirmed that nearly all battery fires were chemistries other than LFP and ones where LFP were involved may well have been due to other issues such as poor installation / failed shorting equipment but you could not always determine the root cause. The marine equipment man only works with LFP. This of course was all said with the insurance broker present so hopefully the message will diffuse throughout the industry.



    Both the surveyor (who also does loss adjustor work for insurers) and the fire investigator said that mostly battery related fires on boats were not from the boat batteries but the "toys", e-scooters, e-bikes, e-surf boards, diving power pods (not sure this applies to canals though). Some of these and their charging units are not designed as a full system and some of the 12V adapters can get very hot. With these, the view was that if you are charging something like this, do not do it in your escape route, there was a recent case with a flat where the bike / scooter was charged in the hall and the occupants could not escape. There was another on a narrow boat with the charging happening in the engine room at one end of the boat but luckily the occupants could escape from the other end of the boat. People mentioned that e-scooters especially were prone as the battery pack is low down below the board and easily damaged if not in a rugged case. Charging bags were mentioned, a flame roof fibre glass bag which could contain to some extent a lithium battery burning. However, encasing a battery in an insulating bag during charging will mean the battery warms up more.


    Hybrid (mixed) LA and LFP banks

    At a high level the marine equipment man was quite comfortable with mixed banks and he believes that the idea is sound. He called them Lithium Extension batteries and mentioned a German company, I believe this is Bos AG who sell a very expensive lithium battery system to add to your lead acid bank. These are designed for the top daily consumption going into your lead acid for deeper discharges. This is similar to the hybrid method advocated within the canal boating world. However, when questioned about "hybrid" systems he had trouble probably because we were talking about different things. It was interesting that it was not discounted out of hand.


    System installation

    Fusing was discussed where it was noted that LFP can have a very high short circuit discharge current, especially in large offshore or propulsion systems, much higher than LA. They suggested Class T fuses capable of 20,000A @ 12V fault current (expensive) on large battery towers and ANL fuses capable of  6,000A @ 12V fault current for battery strings. They did not mention MRBF fuses which can be mounted on battery terminals with a 10,000 @ 12V fault current. This is probably one area where canal boats probably fall short by using mega fuses or strip fuses, most likely by retaining these from the lead acid install. If you can not fit fuses very close to batteries mention was made of short proof insulation sleeves for the cables. Other aspects were system communication systems (CAN), emergency shutdown buttons, fire protection plus isolation on both positive and negative leads.


    A lot was made of professional vs self install with some discussion of the generally poor wiring in canal boats. The surveyor said most electrically based fire claims he made were due to poor installation with issues such as loose wiring where positive and negative high current cables chafed against each other causing shorts (and by inference inadequate fusing) causing something nearby to catch fire. The same was true for not having properly covered terminals on batteries and equipment. This situation with LFP batteries would be worse than with lead acid due to the higher fault currents.


    Other bits

    The issue of low temperatures on LFP was discussed and acknowledged, as well as high temp for people travelling to sunnier climes.

    They agreed that now LFP was cheaper over the battery lifetime than AGM.

    They suggested that DC-DC or alternator to battery chargers were one way of overcoming installs with legacy alternators to avoid expensive alternator modifications.



    This was very positive, it showed that lithium batteries are viewed as being very safe and entirely practical for boat domestic systems and low power propulsion systems and was not a witch hunt. It was fairly relaxed about some of the more novel ways of adding lithium to your system as long as they were properly managed and had safety systems. The biggest area of concern was around DIY installs which have the risk of being less safe.


    The video of the webinar will be uploaded to Youtbe at some point at https://www.youtube.com/@HavenKJ/videos

    I have the fuse at the batteries, manual cut off and an ignition controlled battery cutoff, my BSS examiner was impressed by what I had done. Like me he lives on a boat so we can't be to careful with our homes

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