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This also serves as a reminder of just what is now under the two boats. Anyone want to discourse about the point load on a fibreglass hull?

1) Garmin 750 Chartplotter 2) Raymarine Autopilot 3) Lewmar Windlass I can just about do the windlass seeing as a 25Kg anchor is mentioned http://www.apolloduck.co.uk/feature.phtml?id=271863

Thanks Carlt - that makes me feel better

Sadly ('cause I'd look less foolish) I think it's just out of shot. But thanks for a 'nice try' all the same! Nah - frost heave around the base of the sign!

For all the right - or the wrong - reasons??

Now that is something I hadn't thought of as a sensible answer to this conundrum. Probably the most likely too!

That's merely my deduction based on what I saw in September and what I'm seeing now. I would seriously be doubting my sanity if it wasn't for the evidence of the EA Viking Recorder (showing this is the 2nd highest ever recorded York flood event) which is a couple of hundred yards, on the right, above the bridge we're looking at.

That's very interesting - there was me thinking that event was still to come - so Matty40s's observation in an earlier post was/is spot on. Still living ....... still learning!

No, in fact its higher now as the EA recorder testifies. If you look across at the balcony of the National Cirriculum Building (about which I know a funny flood story) - immediately to the right of Woods Mill - you'll see that there's no discernible difference in levels. However, what's been bothering me is that in September the river level came within 3" of the top of the No Entry sign - I remember being very impressed that the light above it kept working throughout, casting a warming glow on the swirling flood waters. I have just deduced that since then the stem of the sign must have been lengthened, to prevent future damage to the electrics, in just the event we are now witnessing. A rather rare bit of pro-activity methinks!

Dog House you're a gent.

For anoracks like myself the EA Viking recorder is now showing that at 4.48 metres this is the second highest river level ever recorded for York - the previous 27/1/2008 reading was 4.47 metres. However, the graph does appear to be flattening out now fortunately. Are they the amphibious variety of 'larks' often to be found lurking (or larking) in Mcr??

Work boats on the T&M!

You've probably already spotted that if you go upstream to the Wyre Piddle* webcam it shows a level board and the Avon actually peaked this time round at 3 1/2 ft - so yes, it's going down now. I too greatly enjoyed seeing the nb lock through Strensham Lock last time round, to tie up to the lock landing that juts out into the river itself. I was expecting him to do what you've done and sit it out in the lock chamber. From the google earth view his chosen mooring looked pretty hairy even though it was on a floating pontoon on risers. *home of an excellent micro-brewery that includes 'Piddle in the Hole' amongst its regular ales.

And a more immediate issue is that if/when the underwater hull of the nb oversails the top of the metal posts that form a 'safety barrier' 2ft in from the edge of the staith. You can see what I mean by looking at the pic I posted much earlier on - page 2 of this thread - post 23. Close to the the bow of the nb there is a fairly tall staunchion (not there in my 2008 image) set in the staith and carrying a lifebelt. This is considerably taller than the other posts lining the staith edge, but my fear is that the water level will not have to rise much further before the stern of the nb floats over the top of the other metal posts. Then when the water subsides both boats will be landing on a staith that, far from being flat, looks like the bagatelle board I used to play with as a child. Is my assessment somewhere near right or am I missing something??

Better change that 'Hairy' to 'Webbed' then ........

The river has gone up exactly 1ft between 9.00 last night and 6.00 this morning as measured on the EA Viking recorder close to this spot http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/homeandleisure/floods/riverlevels/120701.aspx?stationId=8208 That's 8" below the 2008 flood level and the river is still rising. I don't believe there can be very much of the tops of the bankside posts in contact with the nb hull, which appears to have moved forward in the night. Possibly the bow rope pulling tighter?? From being 3 steps below the York Rowing Club boathouse last night, the river is now in the boathouse as stated on their webcam page http://www.ycrc.co.uk/webcam and the EA say the Ouse is still rising. Altogether not a good prognosis for the 2 boats. I had hoped that levels would have peeked by now. Time to start crossing everything - not just fingers.

On the EA Viking recorder the levels have started to creep up inch (0.03 metres in EAspeak) by inch since dusk, after what appeared to be a pretty static level during the day. I guess the river is responding to what's fallen in the Yorkshire Dales during the day. My guesstimate is that the hull of the nb will clear the railings if the Ouse rises another 12 - 16" unless she's a very deep draughted boat. I fear this is the night that the crews will need to worry about.

Hope that one of the firepeople pushed the boat person's trolley round Sainsbugs and helped him carry his bags back to the inflatable. Was a fire appliance employed to ferry the members of the shopping expedition 'twixt river bank and supermarket? Did this journey warrant 'blues and twos'? And was a risk assessment required before entering the store? So many questions the scope of which were so neatly summed up by the Forum member who posted 'The Sad Demise of Common Sense' earlier in this thread.

Thank you Chris - as I've said before I end up learning so much from this forum for which I'm extremely grateful. (and I do prefer 'easy' every time)

As a newbie who regards himself as being reasonably computer literate I found uploading an image into a post mind-bendingly difficult and like you attempted to stick into the gallery and access it from there. I had just as much success as you did! The strategy I've adopted (and its worked every time so far) is: 1) Open a Flickr account (if you've a Google or Yahoo account you've effectively got a Flickr account). 2) Upload your image into Flickr as per their instructions - i.e. hit the upload button at the very top of the page (once you're signed in) and go from there. 3) Open the image in Flickr and above it you will see an 'Account' and a 'Share' box 4) Click the 'Share box" 5) At the bottom of the wee drop down click the BBCode button and you will be presented with a great long string of HTML code. DON'T PANIC! 6) Because I struggle to read the code in this fairly compressed form I copy and paste it, in its entirety, into a blank Word document so I can blow it up as large as I want! 7) Look carefully at the code and at the end of the first line (or somewhere in the second line) you will see a string beginning 8) Carefully copy and paste JUST this string ensuring that you include the [ ] at both ends 9) Paste this string of code into your reply where you want the image to go - i.e. before or after your text. 10) Hit 'Preview Post' and the piccy should appear. If it doesn't you don't have all the required code so check and try again! Daunting? ....... you're telling me it is!! There's problem here in that I can't write anything suggestive of code in a post and hope for it to display! SO to identify the string of code you want look for in 7): Start of code string Square bracket followed by img followed by square brackethttp: Finish of code string .jpgsquarebracket followed by /img followed by square bracket I do hope that's fooled it!

Competing fisherman picture!

The lifebelt + stanchion show up in this somewhat foreshortened image on Flickr: There's deffo plenty of activity on the cruiser.

That's nothing - I've been over that bridge at 1200 mph in bus!

Reckon I can see a third boat too. A couple of days ago, before the water level topped the staith, you could just see the stern of another boat moored ahead of the nb. There appears to be activity on the cruiser and the centre cockpit hatch is partially raised.

So that might be the preferred strategy for dealing with this situation .......... ?