Jerra
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Anything you might call vermin.
I have given several examples.
And the disease that they have caught from man (i.e "we have given them")?
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The crap that humans leave about has turned much of our carnivorous wildlife into carrion feeders carrying disease that we have given them.
I don't suppose you could post a reference or two for that could you? I have tried but haven't found any and I haven't seen any diseased animals around, certainly none with diseases man has given them.
As somebody who has spent my life in the country and worked with animals much of my life I am genuinely interested in the problem so any help with references would be very much appreciated.
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I don't think many of us put our sewage into the canal, especially the people who actually live on it. It would seem a bit counterproductive! However, cows certainly do, swimming dogs probably do, and so do the fish. There is also algae which is dangerous to swallow, and run offs from the fertilisers and muck spread on the farmland (some of which can be untreated human waste).
You have missed mentioning the dog walkers who rather than collect it in a bag flick it into the canal.
However last time I mentioned that on mthe forum many seemed to think it was an acceptable practice.
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In theory a teacher could move about doing supply work at schools as needed. In reality I doubt it as schools tend to reuse supply staff one they get to know them and a supply agency might not cover a sufficiently large area. As a result you might not build up a local reputation as you move on regularly. Also many schools now (particularly since Gove removed the need to be a qualified teacher) employ unqualified cover supervisors.
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Should I therefore pay for only the ones I do use and not subsidise those I don't?
The same question could be asked by those who live on land, short of having everything charged at the point of use I see no way round the problem. For example childless couples still contribute to education.
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The concept of paying for local services via a council tax (a renamed Poll Tax) is a very silly way to raise revenue and is a scheme invented by a certain Mrs Thatcher in her mission to "make everyone a capitalist.
Surely Council Tax is just the old system of rates under another name and this system was in place well before Mrs T
Council Tax isn't a poll tax the poll tax aimed to get every adult to pay a tax not just one payment for the property regardless of the number of occupants.
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I keep hearing about 'enjoyment' of the rivers and canals. Who could have any enjoyment at all when there are people breathing down your neck and watching constantly?
No enjoyment in motoring then! CCTV, Police, Parking Attendants etc (in fact no enjoyment anywhere in the modern world). Yet I see in the Lake District lots of people out enjoying a leisurely drive enjoying the scenery.
Playing devil's advocate a bit but I am sure many people still manage to enjoy the rivers and canals.
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But moorings are not all the same length and the applicants don't all want the same length either. So if you want, say, a 60ft mooring and a 50ft comes up someone with a 50ft boat might jump ahead of you - legitimately. If a 70 ft mooring comes up and their is no 70ft applicant should it go to the next size down, to two 35ft applicants or what?
Solving that doesn't seem to me to be too difficult. CRT keep a few lists covering the range of lengths they have. You go on the list for the length you want. With regard to two 30 footers going on a 70 foot mooring that would be up to CRT if they had no 70 foot boats waiting their choice do they keep it vacant or split it.
I recognise 2 points in this. First it is CRT's organisation and ultimately it is up to them as to how they decide to organise things and second boaters are able to advise but not dictate to CRT.
Separate lists would also help CRT to be aware of which lengths of mooring there was most demand for. So rather than taking the attitude that's a 70 foot space and nobody wants it it can stand empty they would know they have a list of people to offer the 2 35 foot spaces to.
Exept the hire industry, who will end up with a linear holiday park... But surley that can not be an agenda?
Hang on is hire boating not commercial traffic? Just what the canals were made for!
OK that is tongue firmly in cheek and a bit of devils advocate as well.
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Under those circumstances Alan a waiting list would appear to be the answer,
If there were any doubt about the honesty some form of periodic publication would surely ensure honesty. May be problems with data protection. However that could possibly be covered by giving each person a unique reference number and only the rank order of the reference numbers being published. Individuals could then make sure nobody was jumping ahead of them.
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It's how that price is set that seems to be the issue...
Surely that would then develop to what people are prepared to pay. When I was involved with shops you set your price on what you needed to make ends meet and what you felt your customers would pay. Gradually you learned to "get the price right".
Why wouldn't this happen with moorings. If they set the price too high the mooring either wouldn't sell or would take a long time - like over priced houses do.
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Could somebody please explain to me why it needs a system any more complicated than "this is the price, you pay it, you get the mooring". Just like selling anything else.
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From the 'Ethical Consumer'
Washing-up liquids do not contain phosphates so products labelled phosphate-free are misleading. But conventional brands do contain petrochemical surfactants and synthetic fragrances, not to mention the increasing number that claim to be antibacterial.
Thanks! I couldn't remember which chemical(s) he mentioned.
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Apparently it's near Tewitfield.
Then they will have difficulty heading south to it - Tewitfield is at the northern end.
Yes I do know that there isn't a "thursday" there.
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we need to know whether cheap as chips ordinary washing up liquid is not biodegradable before you spend 10 times the cost on eco stuff, who knows ? it might be harmless.
As I said earlier my friend (who was after all employed to deal with pollution problems) implied that any "eco" washing up liquid was better as they were all lower in phosphates (I think it was) he didn't say yes eco if you choose brand X because Y isn't any good.
I also assume (perhaps naively) that some organisation such as Which would be pointing it out if this weren't the case.
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What benefit do you get out of buying Eco friendly products??
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As we use waterways I would have felt it was obvious.
I have a friend who before he retired worked for the EA taking water samples and prosecuting polluters and in his opinion the aquatic environment would benefit greatly if everyone used eco products. I think it was because these were mainly low in phosphate but I can't quite remember.
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I am trying to work out why this guy is being given such a hard time.
He is new to the forum but I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't stay long.
He used a colloquial phrase "general rule" it has been seized on in a pedantic way to mean literally a rule or law. I don't think he meant it like that I think he meant it in the colloquial sense of "as a general rule .........."
I would suspect that he is correct in that as a general rule most people don't/won't discharge sewage weather from a sea toilet or holding tank. Meaning it is an unusual person who chooses to pollute waters close to shore i.e. less than the distance he suggests.
Is "as a general rule" a form of speech not common in all parts of the country?
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Yes, I am always very near rant mode because if I see or am the victim of injustice then I like to make it known. One of the lock keepers I met 'hates the general public' What is this about? As far as I know, the NT doesn't charge people a fortune to use their parks etc and I have never seen or heard of an incident of harassment from a national trust employee. NT employees don't try to hound you off their land when they decide you have walked enough. They don't have a 'picnicking time limit' then harass you every ten minutes until you leave, they don't march up to you asking questions about where you are going and what you are doing then decide you have to leave their area because they don't like picnickers. I won't sit in silence and take this nonsense any longer. I won't sit by and support persecution of a tiny minority of vulnerable people, but will you?
Sorry but for me you are comparing apples and oranges the only similarity between CRT and NT are they are both charities and own their assets which is why I used them as an example.
You seem to think the only thing NT owns is land to walk over. They charge quite heavily for access to their properties and car parks and many have time limits etc. So not too different really.
You don't seem to use the NT much I have frequently been approached by their employees who have discussed with me my use of the facilities, how long I intend to visit for etc. It has been no problem where I come from we call it chatting.
Yes they do have areas where you can do some things and not others, they even dictate what type of boat you can use on why Lake I believe.
A lock keeper who hates the general public - people often end up in jobs where they are square pegs in round holes. The poor guy perhaps wants to change jobs but in the current economic climate can't.
I know this will, bring on another rant but I don't see any persecution of a vulnerable minority any more than say the NT who let out property for people to live in and then have rules and regulations about what they can and can't do. Where and how people live is obviously their choice in life, however how an owner runs their property is their choice. In some cases there will be a clash I don't see that as persecution.
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I have no experience of this but I have always wondered why it isn't like most other selling situations. The seller puts a price on the item and the first person prepared to pay the price buys the item.
I am sure there must be obvious reasons why this isn't done I just can't see them.
EDIT: To correct typo
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You obviously have no idea who is at the 'top'. Who arranged the meeting, where was it and why was it there? I will assume in all my ignorance that it was in just one place. How may people were there? 10 - 11? We don't all live in fairy tale land and we don't all want to be attending meetings miles away from our own personal business to beg for a right to live and we don't all want to complicate the simplification of something that is self defeating in it's very existence. Do you really think you live in a democracy? Do you understand why the Aus. gov. had to fine people who didn't vote? People are loosing interest. fast, and this kind of thing isn't helping at all. A rule can only apply to 'most' people, especially those who beg, and it will always, without a shadow of a doubt, either benefit or not inconvenience those who are in a position to make them. When you bend yourself to someone elses rules, you are a bender, and will always be a bender until you realise the only reason you bend is that you choose to bend.
It might be a good idea if you found out what Cotswoldman has done/is doing before you begin to rant. Although from what I have read of your posts you only appear to have rant mode.
The fact is CRT (like it or not) own the canals if you don't like what they do you have a choice engage with them as Cotswoldman does or choose not to use what they own.
Incidentally when like say National Trust you own something a rule you have can apply to all your "customers" if they don't like it they don't need to use the NT. The same applies to CRT hence it is wise to engage with them as Cotswoldman does.
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I am sure somebody will be along to give better directions soon. I don't know the area well enough to give directions but the Ncholson's guide shows a water point at Middlewich and a combined sanitary station which normally will have a water point at Nantwich, so you will be OK.
Water from CRT water points is free but you need a CRT key. If you have hired the boat then they will have provided one.
EDIT: Forgot to say welcome to the forum.
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For me they can be in as much uproar as they like as it would bolster the BBC coffers and mean the rest of us were not subsidising their free loading.
Now be careful you aren't allowed to complain about people getting something for nothing on this forum.
I am not sure I like the idea of tax on recorders/players but the other part would work fine. Or for that matter the digital scramble of signals.
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We all have too much tax to pay and anybody who thinks paying even more wants their bumps felt ,s
It is precisely this reason that I feel tax needs to be spread equitably. I am not suggesting everybody pays more tax in fact if you read the posts carefully I suggest it would slightly reduce council tax if everyone who is supposed to pay council tax did.
To me not a Tory idea (I have never voted Tory) just an idea of what I consider to be fair. If people didn't keep coming back and trying to change what I feel is my right to my opinion the matter would have ended long ago.
However I am not the sort of person to not respond to "one trick pony" and "bumps felt" posts. I am entitled to my views and as a forum for discussion I am entitled to post them and reply to others who reply to me.
Sorry if that is against a forum rule I haven't noticed.
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I understand the preferred acronym of the Trust is CRT... why don't folk get this...unless they just want to be annoying...
Oh yes sorry ... it's Narrow Boat World...
You will get nowhere with that suggestion there appears to be a perversity among posters who prefer to give organisations a name they prefer and to hell with what the organisation calls itself.
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I hope the dog recovers well from her ordeal.
Kennet and Avon is open sewer
in General Boating
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I am not sure riddled is the correct word.
Feral Pigeons (which are what I assume you mean by Rock doves) have been shown in London to have 2.25% of feacal samples containing Salmonella
Rats vary according to population but taking the West Midlands 8% infected
I don't have figures for mice in UK to hand but if America is anything to go by 13.6 in 100,000 (I assume the decimal point is due to some mathematical calculation reducing the number to a standard in 100,000).
EDIT: It was figures like these which made me ask for your references so that I could compare your information with mine.