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Jerra

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  1. It can be illegal to be in charge of any piece of machinery that's mobile weather it a boat or a tarmac laying machine, if it's mechanical and moves you can be charged with drunk in charge, it's even happened with a horse as well as pushbike.

    Do you happen to have more detail on that? The best I can find is an 1872 act parts of which have not been superseded by modern law and it refers to "drunk in charge of a carriage, steam engine, a horse or a cow." I can see how this can be used to interpret almost any land based machine as a carriage (a recent case concerned a mobility scooter) but I can't see it applying to water borne machines.

     

     

  2. I think we are both arguing on the same side. When I say that exactly the same thing happens, I refer to the purchase of property by rich outsiders. When I referred to the race card, I referred to the inability of the locals to react in the way that SOME Welsh people have reacted in the past or perhaps at present.

     

    George ex nb Alton retired

    Fair enough. It must be a case of great minds think alike cheers.gif

  3. You haven't heard of houses in the Lake District being sold to persons from big cities, for use as second homes at prices that the locals couldn't afford, and the locals resenting that fact?

     

    It certainly happened when I rock climbed in the area 45-50 years ago and it was still happening when I returned to Cumbria as a policeman (admittedly outside the Park boundary) some years later.

     

    George ex nb Alton retired

    Grumble at the time but certainly not treat them any differently when they were there.

     

    EDIT: To add that the biggest problem now is probably people already living there buying a second house to let out to holiday makers. This has the same effect as outsiders buying and nobody I have heard of has even grumbled.

  4. If you read this forum regularly there are some who are eminently qualified to comment on how the canal system could be run better and even those who lack the paperwork are surely allowed to express an opinion.

    And I'm allowed to make an observation, as I see it many/most of the differences of opinion as to what should be done are opinions with as many for as against.

  5. So you are neither agreeing or disagreeing with Mr Smelly or Alan Fincher but deferring to CaRT?

    I am not sure how I can make what I was trying to say much clearer!

     

    I am pointing out that there are/have been on this forum in many threads people posting opinions about how the canals should be run/what CRT are doing wrong. The people making the posts don't seem to recognise/take into account/understand that there is a difference between having to do something "say run a canal system" and merely being in a position to say what you think they should do.

     

    I am afraid if you don't understand from the above what I have said at least 3 times in different ways I am at a loss as to how to make it any clearer. In other words I can't so it will be futile to ask.

  6. So are you suggesting that Mr Smelly's interpretation of the relevant legislation is the more correct one, and that CRT are in error when they admit that (however much they might like it to be otherwise), that there is actually no legal requirement to be travelling around half the waterways in the country to comply with "bona fide for navigation".

     

    If you are able to tell CRT how they could actually make Mr Smelly's version of what you have to do to comply have any authenticity, then I'm sure they would love to hear from you.

     

    But you can't, can you, so there is little point in living in a dream world of how we might (or might not) like things to actually be. Better to stay in the land of reality, and try and find ways of making the canals work in a way that is a good compromise for all the people who are paying lots of money to keep boats on them.

    I am not sure where you get all that from I am simply saying what you have quoted. If you read this forum regularly there are many who think they know how the canal system should be run which is better than the way CRT currently run it.

     

    You are reading far too much into a simple observation.

     

    In my youth there was a local saying "Ivvry body can hanle a kicking hoss bit them as hez it" (translation to make it easy - Everybody can handle a kicking horse apart from those who have to" meaning it is easy to say what should be done when you don't actually have to do it yourself) Many posts on here for me fall into that category.

  7. How is it that those who actually know what's being said in Welsh don't think that this happens?

    I don't know if you intended to or not but you have just suggested I can't tell when the language being spoken around me changes from totally English to totally Welsh. I am afraid I can! So I know it happens I don't think it happens.

     

    I have just spent the weekend in Wales with a friend of 40 plus years. He has had numerous applications in to develop some of his out buildings all to no avail - until he suggested it was because he was English and then suddenly one of his plans became acceptable. Incidentally the next door neighbour (welsh) had received immediate planning permission for a similar development which was to be sold to a welshman.

  8. I agree with others regarding reporting the matter to the police.

    I certainly agree with reporting it to the police, the angling club, CRT and anybody else I felt would be of use. Actions like the hooligan was performing are only IMO because they have got away with doing what they like too long.

     

    If anybody wonders why I say all 3 my thinking goes.

     

    1. Police as a crime was committed.

    2. Angling club because they need to know what their members are up to or alternatively that such idiots are fishing their waters without being members.

    3. CRT because the towpath and canal are ultimately their responsibility and they need to know what sort of trouble occurs and where.

  9. David, you say a weapon was brandish but reality it was only a stick whereas John produce a kitchen knife which is more serious. I think John would have his knuckles rapped and the bloke would get a way Scott free.

     

    Darren

    If I understand it correctly John is a CCer so the boat is his home. Surely the para below would apply.

     

    Anyone can use reasonable force to protect themselves or others, or to carry out an arrest or to prevent crime. You are not expected to make fine judgements over the level of force you use in the heat of the moment. So long as you only do what you honestly and instinctively believe is necessary in the heat of the moment, that would be the strongest evidence of you acting lawfully and in self-defence. This is still the case if you use something to hand as a weapon.

     

    Taken from "Householders the use of force against intruders" at

     

    http://www.cps.gov.uk/publications/prosecution/householders.html

  10. Doubtless this is where you encountered the rudeness - speaking their own language to their family or friends.

    The rudeness isn't speaking their own language to their family and friends the rudeness is speaking my native language as a matter of course but changing to theirs as soon as they realise it is my native language.

     

    Edit: To say I would think nothing of them speaking in welsh when I entered the shop and continuing to speak welsh while I was in there.

  11. Once again you clearly know more than those actually running the canals.

    With great respect to all concerned there are a lot of posters on this forum who feel that their knowledge of running the canals is greater/better than CRT's.

  12. vast number of people should not speak their native tongue in their native country because it might upset some of the visiting "foreigners".

    I have no problem what ever with them speaking their native tongue, in fact I wish more English used their own native dialects.

     

    What I do object to is them preferring to talk in English until they realise they are being understood by an English man then choosing to change to Welsh. If the language and culture was/is as important to them as they make out surely they would be speaking welsh all the time.

     

    Most other foreign countries I have visited as a tourist speak their own language and often change to English when they realise you are English. The Welsh in my experience do the opposite.

  13. Further more, as a (now very rusty) Welsh learner. For all the times I've been in a pub, or a shop, and someone has spoken Welsh to someone else - all they've ever said is something boring, about the business. I've never heard anyone say 'Christ, the English have just walked in, better start talking in code then'.

    Perhaps you haven't but as a one time regular visitor to North Wales I have experienced it many times. One example I was in a small "super market" (type shop) in a village. Every person in the shop was speaking English for a number of minutes until I spoke to my brother and then everybody was speaking welsh from then on.

     

    Might be coincidence but it certainly didn't feel like it.

  14. A well informed thief would snip the aerial off and that would be the end of that!

     

    Which leads me to another question. How would you know if your boat has been stolen anyway? 'Most' boaters don't attend their boats for days on end. By the time you realise your boat has gone it could have had all it's windows removed and the paintwork wrecked.

     

    MtB

    I thought the aerial wasn't visible, worked even in underground car parks and had a motion sensor to tell when the "vehicle" moved. Perhaps I have got it wrong.

  15. . I think that you're not expected to return to that neighbourhood within 28 days. So that may be ok for a neighbourhood in the middle of the 50 mile stretch quoted above, but it does make such an approach problematic, because once you turn round, you'll be back in a neighbourhood you have already moored in before you should be back there.

    As neighbourhoods in urban areas and even in rural areas are reasonably close together surely the turning round problem could be solved by a longer than normal movement - say 10 miles. That would surely take you past a few neighbourhoods and only needs a comparatively short time on the move.

     

    I think with care it would be possible to plan cruising in a fairly short distance and still keep to the rules.

  16. I thought the paragraph further down the guidance made it reasonably clear.

     

     

    What constitutes a „neighbourhood‟ will vary from area to area – on a rural waterway a village or hamlet may
    be a neighbourhood and on an urban waterway a suburb or district within a town or city may be a
    neighbourhood. A sensible and pragmatic judgement needs to be made.
    I would have thought looking at a map of say Birmingham that Selly Oak would be one neighbourhood and Edgbaston the next (NB I have just chosen what I think are neighbourhoods I don't know the area well enough to know if the canals actually go there).
    In the country it seems even easier - just look for the nearest named habitation and you are in that neighbourhood.
    Just my interpretation, I will be interested to see what others think.
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    What really annoys us is when we offer help to what we assume I'd a single handed boat (and not because we feel they can't do the job themselves) and usually in the persisting rain I may add, only to find the "crew" sat in the dry with a cup of tea/coffee. That really gets my goat!

    I am afraid I open the conversation by asking if they are singlehanding before offering to help.

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