Jerra
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It is also nice to see the press release acknowledges that boaters "make an important contribution to the canals and the income from licences helps us keep the waterways in working order.”
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In the case of Foxton they already have.
Good all pressure helps
they have at stoke bruerne as well.
Good I some times think that CRT will take more notice of local non boaters and possibly the Chamber of Trade ( if they have one ) than they will of boaters.
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Yup your last line says it all, which demonstrates how nonesensicle your position actually is.
I fail to see how it is nonsensical to wish to have a situation where dog lovers can have some pubs where they can take their dogs -which is why I would not support a ban.
However you seem to find it acceptable that your dog must be forced on anyone even if they are allergic, scared or just plain don't like dogs.
Sorry I don't find my give and take position nonsensical I do find your force everyone it a building where there are dogs with no choice (other than Hobson's) both nonsensical and shows the typical arrogance of dog owners.
There is no point in continuing this discussion you are obviously either unable to empathise with those of us who don't want to meet dogs or too selfish to consider we have a valid point.
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do dog free pubs have similar?
Sadly not that I know of but I would love to hear if anybody finds one.
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The local bar here at Foxton has definately seen a slow down in trade specifically now there is now no mooring in the basin which is where the canal time boats used to moor for the first/last nights.
Would it be a good idea for local businesses which can show an effect on their business to get in touch with CRT.
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Drug addicts? - Not the sort of pub I go into.
I also refuse to accept a drink when it is passed to me by the bar person holding the glass by the rim.
It gets worse we had a 'bring your dog into work day' last week at the place where I do voluntary work.
'Muts rule OK' .
Cobblers..
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I am pleased I am not the only one who seems to find this idea that a pub that doesn't take dogs deserves to be penalised and that a pub ought to provide so sort of accommodation for dog owners.
Despite what dog owners clearly feel many pubs can and do exist without the need to pander to animals.
Sorry I think I remember you are a dog owner but obviously one who isn't selfish enough to think only dog lovers deserve considering, which is how I feel the majority of owners seem to be.
I can't understand why the current situation of some pubs taking dogs and some not is a problem. Of course both pubs will lose some trade I don't go in pubs which take dogs dog owners ( well some)don't go in pubs which don't take dogs. Its swings and roundabouts and as I find dog owners more vociferous there well may be equal numbers on both sides. Those like me who are not comfortable around strange dogs tend to not make a fuss and keep a low profile. I am not of that mind particularly when it is perfectly possible to keep both groups happy by having pubs which allow dogs and those that don't.
Incidentally I would not support a law which banned dogs in all pubs but it seems the "dog lobby" would support a law which allowed dogs in all pubs.
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You are seriously comparing Jan and I sat in a quiet corner of a pub with Dennis under the table with drug addicts?
Obviously not I am trying to understand why you insist that dogs should be allowed into all pubs.
Drunks will make clientèle uncomfortable and are rightly not tolerated in most pubs. If a landlord feels dogs make some of his clientele uncomfortable and doesn't allow them why do you think he should (in fact deserves to) go out of business. The only reason I can see is that as a dog lover you feel the world should revolve round people and their dogs.
What have I got wrong. Why isn't some pubs taking dogs and some not an acceptable idea to you.
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A pub that operates a blanket ban in all areas deserves to go out of business.
Sorry DH but that is a little selfish it doesn't cater for those of us who aren't comfortable with dogs anywhere in the pub and I am afraid rather confirms my opinion that dog owners want things all their own way.
Why shouldn't individual establishments run as they wish. Why does an enterprise deserve to go out of business just because it doesn't pander to dog owners. Its a bit like say a pub which doesn't allow obnoxiously drunk people or drug addicts deserves to go out of business. Both the afore mentioned groups aren't acceptable to some people.
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Exactly. The bottom line is that any landlord is in the business of pleasing the majority of their customers.
As I have said before in debates about dogs in pubs isn't it good that some allow dogs and others don't - keeps both sides happy.
To be a little contentious the "dog lobby" seems to feel all pubs should allow dogs rather than "there is a place for both" at least that is how it comes over to me.
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but once again, that's only your opinion.
Sois the statement that they aren't allowed because of harm -only somebody's opinion. I merely offered an alternative opinion.
Fairy nuff, so why are they still allowed in lot's of pubs?
Because the landlord and customers don't mind?
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Why?, people keep trotting this out with not a shred of evidence that it will harm or kill them.
It might not be a case of harm, it might just be that people who don't own dogs(and some that do) don't like them there.
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BST/GMT occurs at very much the same time each year
1st November occurs at exactly the same time each year, surely more accurate than "very much the same time"
(For those in doubt it is the day between 31st Oct and 2nd Nov)
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I have been wondering for a while what some posters have to gain by playing down the misery and damage suffered by some parts of the country.
A few posters seem determined to believe that just because they were fortunate enough to not have any problems or loss nobody else will have. This is NOT the case. Nobody's suffering or loss should be taken lightly however small .
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I would agree Phil however if somebody has never seen either a Jack Russel or an Alsatian you need to try to give them some pointers.
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I beg to differ G&F. My first spark welder was a 15 quid thing the size of a shoe box with a duty cycle of a couple of mins on thin rods.
I (we) built trailers/go-carts/motorcycle frames with the thing........while drinking lotts of tea to let it cool down.
It was great to learn on. When let lose on a "biggie" as an apprenitce I thought I'd died & gone to heaven! So much easyer.
Go on Star, get it it bought, you know you want it.
Taslim I think you missed the typo that was being joked about
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I've had mink (several) on my moorings - they got into my boat and I had to trap them in the end. Another took up residence on the pontoon. As they are utterly feerless (and quite lovely creatures but really stink), I've spent some time sat just a couple of feet from them.
All of the ones round here have a white chin. Some it is a smaller patch, some much bigger.
We did have otters for a while. They took up residence under one pontoon and had a litter of otter kits! Definitely no 'white' on them, just lighter brown around the muzzle.
I would suggest that the mink in your area are all fairly closely related and the white chin is a dominant gene. I have only seen a couple of dozen from Edinburgh to the south Midlands but none have had any white.
Equally Otters are very variable in my experience (from the highlands to the south Midlands including a number of litters)
So I would still hesitate to use white/light colour under the chin as 100% diagnostic as your post seemed to imply. If that wasn't the meaning of the post I have understood you wrongly.
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I really can't see why there is such a hype about dogs and food hygiene.
As a non dog owner who due to a dog attack is distinctly uncomfortable in the presence of dogs I can't understand why dog owners insist on being accompanied by their animals.
I haven't seen cats, parrots, falcons, pet pigs, ferrets, miniature horses, snakes, guinea pigs, rats, or any of the other animals people choose as pets being taken to the pub, and believe me knowing a number of people who own many of these animals they are every bit as attached to them as a dog owner.
I also realise that I will now get a lot of flak and rare sighting of animals other than dogs in pubs.
Edit:to add a space between words.
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How bad would things have to be in someone's life that they would rather be behind bars?
Btw it's definitely NOT Butlins as the Daily Vile etc would have us believe! Prisons are humiliating, degrading, soul-destroying and dangerous places.
I would tend to agree but the post clearly said the prospects inside were better than those outside so I just thought I would ask.
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Mr Campbell is always going to re offend as long as his prospects in prison are preferable to his prospects outside, which is likely to be the case here.
If this is the case (and you are probably correct) why isn't he committing an offence and then making catching him easy? I would have expected that if he preferred jail to being free there would have been no need for a crimewatch appeal as to his whereabouts.
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White chin? Mink..
While not exactly white many otters are very light round the lower face and chin so I wouldn't rule out Otter on those grounds.
In my experience (which admittedly isn't huge) mink while they can have white on them tend to be a single uniform colour. Googling for pictures of mink seems to bear this out.
So not totally diagnostic I feel.
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Would a car crash that killed 4 people attract the same media coverage?
No but it wouldn't have caused the millions of pounds of damage the storm did.
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It was a dark colour. Looked very much like an otter, it turned to look at us, it had a white chin. And a fat tail.
But it could have been a mink I suppose...
The fat tail suggests to me Otter. An Otter cub would be nearly 2 feet long and as heavy( or heavier) than a mink before they leave the holt at approx 3 months.
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There have been various threads over time about the hostile reaction to those" nasty boats" by people who have moved into properties near canals. The quay is as has been stated near the city centre and just along from such pleasant public spaces as Harrison Park (I think that's what its called).
It is a fair guarantee that somebody is going to take an objection to an untidy boat where things are starting to spill out on to the land (as they are in the shots). This will not be to the benefit of boaters in general.
Also I understand councils can require their tenants to tidy up their gardens,is this not the same for moorings i.e the landlord can require visual certain standards.
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A Mink weighs in the region of 1 1/2 to 3 pounds and adult otters (female) around 12 pounds upwards. Dog Otters around 20 - 22 lbs.
Did it give the impression of a small dog or did it look much smaller.
Edit due to ropey conversion from metric.
CANAL & RIVER TRUST TAKES ACTION ON UNLICENSED BOATS
in General Boating
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I am awareof that it is the acknowledgement which was nice to see.