[Jenlyn]

Hi I read an old post on hear from someone who was planning to purchase a wide beam and cruise the North then the south someone suggested he spoke to Jenlyn? Does this member still exsist?

PM sent.

[Can I use the webasto when the engine is running?]

Thanks to the helpful comments on our power/battery/Sterling questions, we are getting there, but another question please, the man we bought our boat from said that we shouldn't have the Webasto on while the engine is running. I can't see that this is stated in the Webasto manual. Is that right?

 

Thank you

 

Christine

I use mine with the engine running (for central heating). Always have done.

Can't understand why you have been told not to. Might be wise to check where it's wired into just in case. Also, does it have its own diesel feed from the tank, or is it shared.

[Painting the outside]

I'm doing mine at the minute. Using acrylic high gloss, and also some of it in vinyl wrap. The vinyl wrap actually works out cheaper than painting it oddly enough.

[How long to charge a batt from 50% to 80% SoC?]

 

Yes solar is doing a sterling job now and I never need the genny, but I'm planning a system to cope with the three months of the year when it doesn't.

 

During the december, January and february just passed, the output from my 360w of solar was zero for 90% of the time, and only 0.1a or 0.2a for the remainder. And I utterly wrecked my domestic bank as I just couldn't find enough generator time between 8am and 8pm to charge them whilst also out at work for long days (busiest time of year!).

 

I'm not sure the same problem would not continue if I just had a bigger bank and spent all weekend charging them. four hours (perhaps?) to get them from 50% to 80%, then a further 18 hours to fully charge. That's running a genny for 12 hours a day for both saturday and sunday!

 

Hence my thoughts changing to using battery-to-battery charging for the final slowest charging stages.

And yes, writing it all out helps me clarify my thinking as well as perhaps helping other people with the same problem analyse the issues.

Moor in spots out of the way where running your engine-genny a little later bothers no one. Worked for me this year.

[Unpainting a windlass.]

Help. I have a windlass that is an unsightly embarrassment to me. It is painted in I think Hammerite, and horrid shade of sickly green it is. But the very real worrying worry for me is for the welfare of my dear old magnet on a string which struggles like anything to latch onto it to pluck it out of a lock when I drop it in, for it struggles terribly to send its mysterious and wonderful picking up powers through the paints thickness, not to mention the added weight of the windlass caused by this awful and problematic paint.

So I and my beloved windlass need to be urgently rid of this demon paint and restore it back to its original galvanized state. So please please, please help with instructions to remove it. Thank you in advance. bizzard distressed.

 

greenie

[CRT extended stay]

I think you've rather accelerated the process a bit haven't you? First they will notify you that you have been staying somewhere for too long (apparently by text as one guy at Rugby told me he waits for the text then moves on). If you choose to ignore the 'advice' then when your licence comes up for renewal they tell you of their concerns over your lack of movement and will offer you a short term licence to give you the opportunity to comply with the conditions that you agreed to when you initially took out your licence. If after these efforts at compliance fail then they will refuse you a licence which is where your account comes in, it is however a little way down the road rather than the almost instant 'begone!' implied by your post

You wanna tell your mate not to rely too heavily on those txts. They stop after a while, and you just get refused a licence at renewal.

[Selfish dogging boaters]

They come in all walks of life, sadly not just boating.

 

We occasionally encounter them while caravanning too, like the knob who woke us this morning 'warming up' his ancient rattly Peugeot diesel before he set off, did the same yesterday. Thankfully he moved off this morning.

I don't get this. Its impossible for Nick to be in two places at once?

[Selfish dogging boaters]

You need a ShihTzu.

[CRT extended stay]

The mere fact that you sat through the workshops would suggest that is isn't as 'devious and dishonest' as you portray. Truly devious and dishonest stuff takes place behind closed doors and you don't get to hear anything about it (don't ask me how I know ).

 

 

I don't have to ask you how you know.

The simple answer is, you don't know, you weren't there. So you can only make assumptions.

[CRT extended stay]

Not quite sure why it would be considered 'controversial' that CRT aren't all a bunch of b*stards and out to harass all us innocent boaters, but hey ho!

 

What strikes me is that a lot of posters who continually harp on about CRT remind me of a certain Health Secretary (getting dangerously close to politics here ) in that they NEVER have a good word to say about them. EVERYTHING they post is negative (no names mentioned unless specifically asked ). This isn't how you create a constructive atmosphere. There is a method of working (I believe it is used in aviation) known as 'no blame' whereby problems are highlighted and methods of correction are agreed without the necessity of trying to find someone to blame. Perhaps if we could make use of this a bit more it may help. For those who wish to constantly berate CRT there was always the opportunity to step up to the plate before CRT was formed to tell the Government that they would run the canal system and how they would do it to best effect, I seem to recall a pretty deafening silence at the time

 

I've seen people with "after affects" from a meeting with CRT. I have even experienced those affects.

I can fully understand why some (seem to be)constantly (in your words) knock CRT, and I feel more often than not, they are justified.

 

If you had attended and sat through the South East VM workshops a couple of years ago, you would probably have been quite shocked at the devious and dishonest way they behaved.

[CRT extended stay]

I keep a logbook for my own interest and dating back to my sailing days.

 

I posted it as a counter to the repeated posts that constantly tell us what a bunch of b*stards CRT are and are constantly 'harassing' all us innocent boaters, my experience is that they are not and don't. (think I may have mentioned this in the OP ).

So you posted to cause some controversy, ok, well it worked.

What you need to bear in mind, is that your dealings with CRT only involve yourself.

Some frequently and sometimes daily deal with CRT on behalf of others, and therefore have a broader experience of how CRT behave.

Consequently, they feel the need to sometimes "out" their frustration.

 

A lot of the ideas CRT attempt to bring in can be ill thought out, and CRT being slightly hard of hearing, need to be shouted at in order for them to see sense.

The trust is getting better because those people you suggest "knock" CRT, are more often than not the ones who have made the trust see sense.

[CRT extended stay]

We seem to have gone around in a bit of a circle here. The point of my original post was that I was going to overstay. I chose to give CRT the reason, there was no legal requirement to do so and, in fact, no requirement to give any reasonable circumstance why I can't until asked. To pre-empt any future query I told them of my circumstances since it is easier to do so now whilst I can remember why rather than later in the year when perhaps I can't remember why I chose to stay here. To give an example, what was the Thames river state on 13th June 2015? I don't know and don't really know how to find out. I can however tell you that the Thames was in flood on 29th March 2016 and I have a paper trail to evidence it if necessary.

Perhaps a logbook would be useful. Would cover several of your issues.

Anyway, it's your choice how you deal with CRT, but the minute you post about it on here, your going to get different views.

Incidentally, why did you post it in the first place?

If I was going to miss an appointment with my dentist I would inform him for two reasons.

 

First and perhaps most important it is courteous.

 

Second unless you are careful they charge for missed appointments, I can't quote any law which gives them the power (perhaps they don't need one ).

That's not really a comparison is it. Lol

[CRT extended stay]

 

Agreed - it's not luck. It's no use trying to play cricket if you can't hold a bat.

Shouldn't that be "it's no good having a bat if you can't play cricket?"

[CRT extended stay]

I don't have a clue why any of you are shouting about distance. That's the one thing CRT do not have any right to dictate (though they do like to try).

The fact is, you just have to move every 14 days or, give reasonable circumstances why you can't.

You can do whatever miles you like, as long as you don't overstay the 14 day limit.

Everyone has their own unique style of ccing. Some need to stop questioning others style, and perhaps concentrate on their own.

[CRT extended stay]

Not normally one to defend Government policy, but can you be a bit more specific? Which Government Department was promoting living on the canals because I can't remember any sort of 'policy' such as that

A member of cabinet created a hoo ha a couple of years ago by promoting living on boats, and on canals, rivers etc. Housing minister, I think maybe Grant Schnaps, not 100% sure on the name.

There was even a thread on here about it.

[CRT extended stay]

 

 

QED.

Not quite.

[CRT extended stay]

 

 

The thing is, although most people like a harmonious life there is a small proportion of people out there who really get off on conflict, and seek it out at every opportunity because they enjoy it.

 

There are several of this type on here, no doubt you have noticed who they are!

From the forum rules and guidelines

 

"Our aim is to provide a forum for focused, high quality discussion. We therefore request that with the exception of the 'Virtual Pub' forum, all posts should be kept on topic and free from 'banter' or similar other such material. This facilitates quality discussion and is for the benefit of all members. Users may only use this facility if they agree to the above."

[New Licencing system rubbish]

For the amount of money I pay for the licence, I think they can send a proper licence to me, if not, do away with displaying.

Before anyone hollers about money saving objectives, this is a drop in the ocean when compared to the amounts of money they frequently waste.

[CRT extended stay]

You only need to inform CRT of your overstay so that they can add it to your sightings record, and you don't receive a bad mark. They don't actually "authorise" your overstay, as you are entitled to it by law. Which makes peoples stories of " how nice CRT are and always let me overstay" a joke, of course they do, its the law. Strangley they follow this part of the law but not others. They like words like "authorise", " terminate " and "crushed" because it sounds like they have authority over people, they don't.

 

Naturally its courtesy to inform them, if you don't you might have to argue over an overstay months later with no evidence, and your licence account is blocked.

 

Exactly. Have a greenie

[CRT extended stay]

Not denying anything you say above - but don't forget that the 1962 Act was primary legislation promoted by the government, not BW nor BTC.

Point acknowledged.

[CRT extended stay]

Not so, though you have a good underlying point. However the wording could never have been meant to apply to boat licences and associated fees, because those could never have been imposed under the situation then obtaining.

At the time this Act was passed, British Waterways managed over 250 miles of public navigable rivers including tidal sections, and the entirety of the canal network was subject to PRNs. That remained the situation until 6 years later.

 

On the prima facie reading explicitly [or sometimes merely implicitly] promoted with the usual references to s.43, BW ought to have been able to mandate compulsory boat licences for all these waterways regardless of PRNs; to have made such licences subject to whatever T&Cs they wished, and to charge what they liked for them, from 1962 onwards.

But that was never true; they still cannot, to this day - they are constrained in this by several geographic limitations and price-cappings, acknowledged and specified in subsequent Acts.

 

There is in fact no definition of "services and facilities" in the Act explicated in s.43(8) nor is it really needed; that merely clarifies that the services and facilities for which BW were empowered to charge included those which they were empowered to charge relating to use of the waterways by boats - as in tolls for carrying cargo on the water as well as for using locks, BW wharves etc etc.

Throwing my own theory in, I suspect it was all such a hash up at the time, it left them not knowing what had been discussed and agreed from one day to the next.

Given that many from BW still work within the "CRT", and having experienced how they work from close up, I can give my theory some credit I think.

 

My own view is that CRT are not fit for purpose, and I would prefer it back in government hands. At least than we would have a say.

[CRT extended stay]

you wouldn't of course because you don't have an agenda. Your posts are well reasoned and precise, only those who disagree distort reality to suit a selfish agenda.

Absolutely chap

[CRT extended stay]

Certainly.

 

The legislation under which CRT levy £25 charges is s43(3) of the Transport Act 1962, which states;

 

Subject to this Act and to any such enactment as is mentioned in the last foregoing subsection, the British Waterways Board and the Strategic Rail Authority shall have power to demand, take and recover or waive such charges for their services and facilities, and to make the use of those services and facilities subject to such terms and conditions, as they think fit.

 

section 43(8) further states

 

The services and facilities referred to in subsection (3) of this section include, in the case of the British Waterways Board, the use of any inland waterway owned or managed by them by any ship or boat.

Which of course is covered by the licence fee. I suggest that is what it means, although I accept some of you would argue that point to suit your own agendas.

[CRT extended stay]

Actually I reckon that it is those who try to do the right thing who suffer the worry. The P takers don't care anyway and just carry on pushing the boundaries.

And that is the cusp of it.

[CRT extended stay]

The circumstances I've outlined are reasonable, but just staying here because I like the mooring and it's convenient for the shops isn't, how would CRT know the difference unless told? I may well be a 'paying customer' (I'm probably contributing as much through general taxation) but so are all of the other boat users (paying customers) who can't moor here because I've 'monopolised' the mooring. Do their rights get overridden?

Very thoughtful of you, but at the end of the day, it's not an issue you developed. I like queing, it's part of our culture in this country, along with being considerate and tolerant.