luctor et emergo
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What about eyesight?
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Statistacally most road fatalities are caused by sober drivers.
Yes, these sober drivers are a danger. They should be banned..
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Ah, here we go again, more pious knee jerk reactions.
I don't know about it being pious, or kneejerk. Before the drink drive laws for cars came into force, they were pooh-poohed by the drivers of the time.
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No police involvement
Lets all spend hundreds of pounds on gaining a licience to do what we all do anyway. Where is the sense in that.
I would expect that if such a licence came into force, existing boaters would be granted 'grandfather' rights.
The only reason I can see for there not being a 'drink/driving' ban on boating, is because of the difficulty of detection/enforcement.
Are there any statistics on accidents on the canal? Do people routinely report accidents, or are they just shrugged off?
There was a recent tread about a member who's tiller was ripped off during his absence. No details left behind by the culprit, how often are boats damaged by an unknown boat?
Just wondering.
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Yes, there is something different about boating.
You are moving much more slowly, and the slowing of reactions is much less critical than when driving a car.
It is not acceptable to be drunk, and bump into other boats, but these issues should be dealt with using legislation that is actually in force.
I won't go into the "slower than a car, so it's less critical" argument...
I wonder what the insurance will say when they realise that they have to pay out because the steerer was drunk? Or if somebody gets hurt?
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It was a relevant analogy, and there are BW employees, other than enforcement officers who are tasked with checking licences.
Well, only as far in that the Police need to check for illigal drivers, who are not insured, and are a danger to other road users. Not displaying a licence disk is only a nuisance, but is not going to ruin other peoples lives.
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Given that the limit is not yet in force, it is farcical that he was fined so much as a brass farthing!
Technically that is true. What astaunds me is that the Judge reckoned that he was a "moderate risk"... three times over? He should have either not been fined at all, or have been heavily punished.
Is there something different about boating, that it is acceptable to be drunk, and bump into other boats?
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From the artice:
District Judge Simon Cooper summed up:"This was clearly foolish to drive a narrowboat while your judgement was impaired. You posed a moderate degree of risk to others while in that state. I have, however, taken into account the guilty plea and the fact you have never been in trouble reduces the punishment even further."
Simon Hemper was ordered to pay a fine of £60, a statutory victim surcharge of £15 and costs of £85.
three times over the limit, and just a £60 fine. A total bill of £160 hmmm, not much of a deterent, especially considering the unlikelyhood of being caught and prosecuted. In a car they would have trown the book at him, and even when you are over the limit on a bicycle you can get a driving ban.
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Sorry, it may be convenient, but it looks like the most soul destroying place to be moored. Next to a busy road, open to the public, ....
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On the other hand, you could shout 'BOOO' very loudly, when they pass.
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And henceforth, this day shall be always known as...
As..?
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This probably only applies to a small amount of people. I'm a smoker for my sins, my husband isn't, so by mutual consent I never smoke on the boat (confined space - absolutley not fair on him - no problem). I'm also a night owl (note time of posting!)
This means I'm often sat at the front of our boat smoking a ciggie late at night. I've found it a bit of a dilemma whether to speak to walkers who happen to stroll past our boat late at night - if I stay silent and lurk in the shadows it might make them jump when they get near and see me, but recently I said a cheery hello to a chap walking past who jumped out of his skin, making me jump and nearly fall in the canal, all accompanied by his clearly upset barking dog!
Or should I sneak indoors when I hear someone coming?
Just wonder what others think.
You're on your boat, you do what you like. If you want to have a quiet smoke, do it. No obligation to talk to passers by, just like if you are in your garden.
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Ah, the 80's and 90's ....walking into a police canteen seeing coppers playing various card games all puffing away on various types of fags and cigars and the occaisional pipe, smoke billowing cheerfully through the windows and every ashtray on the tables full to overflowing,
At least the Snooker Room was kept reasonably clean althougth most of the tables had fag burns on their corners where players had left their smoke while trying to keep their break alive
Ahh, will we ever see those days again? When a works canteen was a happy place, to find a moment of respite from the job? Instead of the sterile place of punishment that it is now, where you must feel like an inconvinience to the company...
Ahh, will we ever see those days again? When a works canteen was a happy place, to find a moment of respite from the job? Instead of the sterile place of punishment that it is now, where you must feel like an inconvinience to the company...As a matter of fact, most places connected with truck driving seem to have a healthy disregard for all the recent PC rules and regulations. Most drivers stil smoke in the cab, and the smoking ban that should be observed in buildings (like drivers break rooms, briefing rooms etc ) seems to be an adviory rule at best. And whilst I don't smoke anymore, I have no problem with my colleages lighting up. I used to smoke, and if there is one thing I hate more than dog owners who let there dog foul the pavement, it is sanctemonious ex-smokers.
edit to add 'smoke' to clarify..
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Like seatbelts and airbags, this is just another one of those 'solutions' to counter man's (and woman's) inability to be careful.
I can just see the headlines in America now. Litigation laywers will do a brisk trade.
As for a few drunken lads, a dare, and a trip to hospital....
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I see a difference in opinion based on peoples experience with the paint, in much the same way as it is in the scale model building world. Some swear by Acrylics, some swear by Enamels. In effect, both have their unique properties, which when used correctly (or sometimes in-correctly, for special effects) give a good result. Most objection comes through a lack of technique, which results in some people denouncing a certain paint type (or brand) as 'useless'. For example, Tamiya acrylic paint is widely regarded as being un-brushable (as with a hand brush as opposed to an airbrush), which I don't agree with, because I often apply it with a brush. The 'secret' is in using the right brush, and correctly thinning the paint (I know, that seems obvious, but there you go..)
It seems to me that Hammerite smooth has its use above the waterline, but certainly not below. That is what I was trying to find out. Thanks very much.
** off to check on industrial buckets of Hammerite...***
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Yes. He does seem to be stopping a lot of apprently innocent motorists
The fact that they drive BMW's is a total co-incidence...
didn't take long for this one to go
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There's always this as an alternative!
**from the above linked website:
is it?
Shit Box is a lightweight portable cardboard toilet, made specifically for outdoor use. The box pops up from a convenient 14 inch flat pack to a rigid, reusable, comfortable toilet. Each box comes with ten degradable poo bags.
Where can it be used?
Festivals, camping, building sites, fishing, travelling, kids caught short, etc.
I don't want to put anybody off their tea, but can you imagine a 20 stone builder using one of these 'on site'...
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I recently had a conversation with a traffic cop who reckoned half the cars he stopped had no tax, MOT or insurance..
Well, that would figure. It is his job to stop cars that are illegally on the road. As a matter of fact, I find his succesrate dissapointing.
Edit: I see Gibbo is quicker than me, must get another coffee...
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Thanks for all your replies. That seems to make it a distinct no-no for the hull, and a matter of taste for things like the cabin and lockers. I was indeed thinking of the gloss version, rather than the classic hammer finish.
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I find Hammerite brittle and too prone to pinholes. The last thing you want on a hull is a coating that is going to flake off as the hull flexes under impact. You also need a coating that can be well "scrubbed" into any rust pits and welds without leaving voids under the film or pinholes in the film.
The modified bitumens or tars have proven themselves over the years and certainly will not go brittle. They are also surprisingly abrasion resistant once dry.
Good point, we did not consider hull flexing.
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When I was discussing the prospect of buying a boat with a work colleage the other night, we wondered if you could use Hammerite paints on a boat, because it's qualities seem to make it perfect for a damp environment where the the boat is subject to loads of bumps and scrapes. Could you paint the lower hull with Hammerite, instead of blacking it? Hammerite is very impact resistant, and inhibits rust as well. We could only see the cost, and rather long curing time, as a possible set-back.
Mind you, neither of us are marine engineers, and this was during the '04.00 cuppa after work', so we may well have been miles off...
Thoughts?
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Does it matter if you are a genuine CCer?
Well, it would if you want to cruise the network, as you will be going back the way were you have just been. Technically that may cause you to breach your CC guidelines, as I understand that you are to be on a 'progressive journey, not returning to the same place within a year'.
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Cut cable ties
remove plug
remake the connection in the plug but without stripping the cable so the insulation is under the screws
replace plug and cable ties
It will take him ages to work out why his system doesn't work
Devious.... I like...
Boater Clobbered for Drink Driving
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What? Can you speak up please?