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  6. Another view of the New T&Cs

    in General Boating

    Posted

    As it stands, I'm going to have a seriously challenging cruising season. One of the legal persons at CRT sent a reply (in the other thread) saying that if a marina boater returns to their marina often, they can cruise a small range from the marina. If they leave the marina for a longer time, they need to cruise a wider range.

    I have a local job, so cruising a wider range is difficult. At the same time returning to the marina often is impractical due to the marina sitting at the top of the Rochdale 9 fight of locks. Going up and down....every weekend, or even every month, isn't practical. So I'll be one of those boaters trying to follow the "spirit of the law" while trying to also negotiate the "non spirit of the new T&Cs"

    you are just extracting the urine, and getting something for nothing. Its not on.

  13. CRT answer questions to new T&Cs

    in General Boating

    Posted

     

    Cannot agree. I dont know where you do your boating but since 1989 we have used bwb, bw and now CART waters and precisely nothing has changed. We still love it and never get any hassle from CART we simply comply with the very few very easy to understand rules wether we are ccing or have a mooring.

    When we bought the first boat we were told about what ccing meant and about the 14 day rule, it certainly aint rocket science.

    I recently purchased another boat and sent the paperwork off and said ccing and hey ho back came my licence.

    I think if you talk to the majority of boaters who like myself are not members of any " user group " and especialy not on any canal forum about these matters they would have no idea od what you are talking about as nothing has changed.

    Keep boating, keep complying and keep smiling thats what we do.

     

    Tim

    Tim, you are largely right, but what you are not taking into account, is that CRT is unlikely to stop here. They are acting outside their powers, making up rules that they can't. If they are allowed to do this this time, they will move ob to the next group. Previously, those bridge hopping with a mooring were not even mentioned, let alone targeted. Now they are threatened with non renewal of their licence if they dont cruise when away from their home mooring. Again, cruise how far?

     

    The thin edge of the wedge has taken hold in the crack, and CRT are starting to hit it with a hammer. CRT would love to have only keeo short section navigable, with boats only allowed out at a rota. The rest of the system only needs a bit of stagnant water for the ducjs and the walkers, cyclists, dog walkers etc. Boats are a burden and a nuisance.

     

    BW did not want the CC option without a home mooring. What makes you think CRT is different?

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  15. CRT answer questions to new T&Cs

    in General Boating

    Posted

    First and foremost comes a necessary acceptance of those who also think they are legitimately on the canal through whatever route.

    greenie

    NABO asked C&RT for clarification on the new T&Cs - It is interesting to note that the 'official reply' now makes no mention of being in a new 'place' every 14 days.

     

    From the NABO website :-

     

    NABO recently asked Jackie Lewis CRT General Legal Counsel to elaborate on the changes to the terms and conditions for boaters with a home mooring. We publish in full her reply with her permission.

    In accordance with Condition 3.1 and 3.2 of the revised terms and conditions, if you have a home mooring, you must cruise on the waterway whilst you are away from your home mooring, stopping only for short periods (defined as 14 days or less if a local restriction applies). This requirement to cruise is the same as it's always been - it is not an amendment to the terms and conditions.

    What it means to cruise on the waterway depends upon the period of time your boat is away from its home mooring. The longer it spends away from its home mooring, the greater the range of movement expected. As an extreme, if you never returned to your home mooring for the entire period of your licence, we would expect you to cruise continuously and therefore your pattern of movement should be the same as that of a boat without a home mooring. In contrast, however, if your boat spends the majority of the time on its home mooring and only leaves to cruise for short periods of time, then the range of movement expected for each cruise will be much more limited.

    To explain further, every time you return to your home mooring (provided that this is not merely for a nominal period in an attempt to circumvent the rules), your cruise ends and the clock is effectively re-set. The next time you leave, you start on a new cruise, the extent of which will depend upon the time spent away from the home mooring. If you are away for just a weekend, that cruise will be quite short in terms of distance. On the other hand, if you are away from your home mooring for several months, we would expect to see a much greater range of movement.

    By way of example, it would be perfectly acceptable to leave your home mooring for weekend, cruise a short distance and moor for 48 hours (at a legitimate mooring site) and then return to your home mooring, and this pattern of movement could be repeated on several weekends throughout the year. However, shuffling between two locations close together, neither of which is your home mooring, for an extended period is not permitted as that shuffling is not "cruising".

     

    The question now is "do we follow what is written in the new T&Cs, or, do we follow the explanation given by Council ?", maybe more to the point which do C&RT follow ?

    Either someone should take that spade away from CRT, or bridge hopping with a home mooring is on the way out.

     

    Who will take it to court?

  20. Canal Lock Gates

    in General Boating

    Posted

     

    Please post! More probably a passing place as the bays are in the middle of a "three rise" in a flight made up mainly of "two rises". (they aren't true staircases). Another debate to get into :)

    Patrick, ive uploaded some on my facebook, have a look.

  22. Canal Lock Gates

    in General Boating

    Posted

    On a different tack, I stopped on my way to Swansea at 14 locks. Intriguing setup of sets of staircase locks, with an very interesting way to fill the side ponds. And a fascinating feature in one of the locks, which has shelfs on both sides, which look like they may have been used for 'dry docking'. I'll post the pics when I have a better connection.

  23. Pill Boxes

    in General Boating

    Posted

    Under the circumstances I would imagine the canal would have been de watered by destruction of the locks, either by demolition or artillery and the mud would be a greater obstacle perhaps. Armour without infantry support is vulnerable.

    For what it's worth, I have become convinced that there never was a real possibility of invasion.

    Armour without infantry support is a collection of coffins.

    And yes, an invasion would have never succeded, unless the Royal Navy and Royal Airforce would have been destroyed. Even if the Germans could have landed sufficient troops to get a beach head, resupply would have been neigh on impossible to achieve. The battle of Britain was the German attempt to destroy the Royal Airforce, as a prelude to Operation Seelöwe. The failure to do so, was yhe end of the German invasion plans.

  24. Pill Boxes

    in General Boating

    Posted

    There's a pill box on the Coventry Canal by the Tame Aqueduct. They were positioned on rivers and canals because these were thought to be "natural" defences against enemy tanks.

     

    I have often wondered if those who decided this knew how shallow canals are, and the in general the bed is saucer shaped in profile. I suspect that a tank could easily traverse a canal.

    It would depend on the particular location, if a hard edge to the bank, tanks of that era would not have found it easy. The pill boxes would have been used primarily to hinder the efforts of sappers and engineers who might have tried to create bridges or ramps. It is also easier to stop infantry trying to cross a water obstacle.

  25. rules for "bridge hopping" with a home mooring

    in Living Afloat

    Posted

    When did you make that one up.

    Doing 10 miles a month in one direction and turning round in Birmingham would give you almost 3 years cruising if you did the Aylesbury.

    I didn't make it up. Others did that, when having a pop at CC'rs who CCed (or bridge hopped) on the K&A (or other canals) and complained about BW harassing them.

     

    Now that CRT are are dealing with those who bridge hop whilst never, or rarely, returning to the home mooring, they cry wolf.

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