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  1. 50 minutes ago, David Mack said:

     

    The Huddersfield Narrow connects to the narrow Ashton and Peak Forest canals at the west end, and even if the channel and locks could have been built wide, the cost of a wide Standedge Tunnel would surely have been prohibitive. So narrow it was.

     

     

    The Huddersfield Broad Canal was built to the same size as the Calder and Hebble, which in turn was built to suit the size of river barges used locally when it was built. The lower locks on the C&H were subsequently lengthened, but this ddn't get up as far as the junction with the Huddersfield Broad.

    Great info - many thanks. 

  2. 1 hour ago, Pluto said:

    Narrow canals were built where the promoters were trying to keep down costs - it is about a third cheaper to build a narrow canal as opposed to a wide one, the main saving being in the price of land. In the late 18th century, few people knew if canals were going to be a financial success, so many canal promoters in the Midlands looked at narrow canals as the most cost-effective way forward. This may have been because their canals were, to a great extent, isolated from coastal seas. In Lancashire and Yorkshire, they were much closer to the seas, so they had more incentive to build canals suitable for coastal vessels, despite the additional cost. You have to bear in mind that our canals were not built as a system, but as a solution to local or regional transport problems. Only the narrow canals had much in the way of through traffic, with boats passing over several canals when making a single journey. 

    That's really useful information - many thanks.  I never thought about the land costs - just construction, but that makes perfect sense.  I just wondered why these locks were around 60 feet in length?  Somewhat shorter than other narrow and broad canals.  Do you think it was to accommodate a certain type of boat then?   

  3. Okay - one other question referring to both the Huddersfield Narrow and Broad Canal.  Why would a canal company build shorter locks - like they did on the broad canal at 57.5ft long?  Would they have modeled the lock size around the size of their boats - or did they do it to make it difficult for competitors boats/routes?    

  4. 12 minutes ago, blackrose said:

    Are you sure you don't have room for a tiny hearth and a little stove? I was thinking small pot belly but you might be able to fit something like this:

     

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/Miniature-Mini-Coal-Wood-Burner-Stove-Heater-Shed-Summerhouse-Workshop-Garage-66/1361835900

     

    Stoves are the only truly reliable form of heating on boats - at least for living aboard, and that's the real test. All other forms of heating seem to go wrong eventually.

    Thanks for the link - those mini stoves do look interesting!

  5. 47 minutes ago, Iain_S said:

    We have some staining at the bottom of the galley window, which was caused by water being able to pass through the join between the main window frame and the bit which restrains the hopper section. Nothing serious, and fixed by a gob of silicon, which has lasted for over ten years now.

     

    I take it the boat in question is Osney Venture?

     

    Some research on the Sea Otter site reveals that the Atwood heater did warm air and hot water, and that the calorifier replaced the hot water bit. At one stage, the owner says he has a Propex heater for the warm air, but I don't know if it was ever fitted.

     

    Yes it's Osney Venture.  The bottom of the galley window is a real mess.  While the boat looks in good order - the paneling looks rotten and needs replacing, I think it's been leaking for some time.  I'm getting a quote as I think the window would need removing and refitting and resealing etc.  

    2 minutes ago, larrysanders said:

    Yes it's Osney Venture.  The bottom of the galley window is a real mess.  While the boat looks in good order - the paneling looks rotten and needs replacing, I think it's been leaking for some time.  I'm getting a quote as I think the window would need removing and refitting and resealing etc.  

     

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  6. 2 minutes ago, larrysanders said:

    Thanks for this info, really helpful! - yes I'm really surprised there's no heating at all.   It does have another issue.  There's serious damp below the front windows and it's wrecked paneling - so I'd need to sort this out.   Have you ever had a problem like this?   The boat in question is on Apollo Duck at 22k.  Thanks again!  

    I've just heard back from the seller.  The boat did originally have an Attwood heater but it was condemned and removed.  There's still the trunking in place.  

  7. 40 minutes ago, Iain_S said:

    As Haggis said, Gamebird has a Carver P4 gas warm air heater. It's actually pretty reliable, once I got into the guts of it and figured out the common P4 faults :) ( Bit academic, as the P4 has been out of production for years!)

     

    A Propex warm air heater would be a direct replacement, although if I was fitting a new heater, I'd go for diesel rather than gas. The 26' Sea Otter may have a fairly small diesel tank, but gas in small bottles costs!

     

    Our layout has a wardrobe on the left as you enter from the back hatch, and the Carver is under the floor of the wardrobe, plus through the base of the locker under the dinette seat. Layouts vary, but I'm really surprised there isn't any form of heating fitted.

     

    Looking back at the Sea Otter site, some boats have a Truma E2400 fitted. (Logical, I suppose, as it was Truma's pricing policy that caused Carver to stop making heaters!)

     

    An alternative might be a small (I.e. Miniature!) multi-fuel burner, as Ronnie Tucker of Schooldays fitted, and posted details on this site.

     

    Thanks for this info, really helpful! - yes I'm really surprised there's no heating at all.   It does have another issue.  There's serious damp below the front windows and it's wrecked paneling - so I'd need to sort this out.   Have you ever had a problem like this?   The boat in question is on Apollo Duck at 22k.  Thanks again!  

  8. I'm exploring a compact Sea Otter 26 narrowboat as it'd be ideal for our leisure cruising needs.  However the one I'm looking at hasn't got heating, which is kind of putting me off.   Fitting a stove wouldn't really be possible as I need to keep a 3 berth layout and there's no room.   Is it possible to retro-fit Webasto heating or something similar without messing the interior - and is it expensive?  Or is there an alternative that I'm not thinking of ?? - (besides extra blankets and jumpers).  

  9. On 12/01/2019 at 04:18, roland elsdon said:

    Most  popular moorings on ashby are 48 hr 

    other bits can be shallow. Loads of moorings at stoke golding many of which are shallow. I would not recommend leaving a car in the tempting layby between stoke golding and dadlington by the canal.

    i've left my car in this lay-by many times - no problems :) 

    Does anyone have the contact details for the farmer/landowner who is in charge of the linear moorings in Shackerstone on the Ashby?  Thanks 

  10. On 12/01/2019 at 04:18, roland elsdon said:

    Most  popular moorings on ashby are 48 hr 

    other bits can be shallow. Loads of moorings at stoke golding many of which are shallow. I would not recommend leaving a car in the tempting layby between stoke golding and dadlington by the canal.

    i've left my car in this lay-by many times - no problems :) 

  11. The narrow boat episode will currently be broadcast on Saturday 14th October 8pm nationally on BBC2.   

    However it will first go out regionally on BBC1 East Midlands (Sky Channel 960) this Friday 29th at 7.30pm.  Other regions will broadcast other episodes (different boats) in the same slot.

    The whole series will be available on Iplayer from September 30th.   

    Enjoy! 

     

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