Kez
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Liam beat me to it; Malvern was last seen of at Calverly alongside of Hercules. Currently awaiting their fate as boats no longer needed by BW. I beleive both have been earmarked by the Waterways Trust though
edited to add: I just checked with a collegue who reckons that both boats are to be withdrawn from service in 2 > 5 years (or whenever Jim finishes fighting to keep them
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Definitely a Bantock, not an LMS/Yarwoods station boat.
Not to say it might not have been built for (GWR?) railway use, though, I'm not too well up on the history of these.
Think I should have clarified what I meant; I didn't mean an LMS boat, I think she looks more like the boats I've seen in photos that are classed just as "interchangable station boats"
I thought the supposed mk1, mk2, mk3 bantocks that people talk about refered to the boats Mr Bantock built for other people, as opposed to his own GWR serving fleet?
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A bantock? She looks alot like an station boat to me..
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Last time I saw you in lip gloss and nail varnish I thought it suited you. (must have been at Norbury - how time flies!)
What kind of boaty do's have I been missing?
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That is non fitting for a dredger. This distortion of history just shows that no one really cares about originality, when you have a well documented craft with a fairly solid history you change the name -
Ever thought of working for BW archives?
Perhaps it is unfitting for a dredger, but she's not one anymore. Or are you just upset that the name you suggested didn't get picked?
Yes she has a pretty solid history, and in that history she did not have a name. How does me naming the boat something change what she was? She was only ever named 'Ohm' by BW, and it was neither done for very long nor was it done with any particular naming scheme in mind. When I bought the boat, BW didn't know what I was talking about when I asked for the Ohm. They knew her as "that butty boat that's in the corner"
At the end of the day the boat is not going to be a museum piece, she's not going to be a dredger again, and as she is a privatly owned boat I am allowed to call her what I like.
I fail to see how what was going to be a bit of fun has got people up in arms.
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*bump*
Butty's naming competition has now ended and she has her sunday name!
As suggested by Sam Noon of Verbena (formally Vienna), we introduce:
Mercia
She'll always be known as Butty to me though
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Best i can do
didn't get many this year, for some unknown reason!
Dan
That's my girl! Who wants ten-a-penny shiny joshers when you can have The Schnoz
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here you go Kez
Dan
Bit of a focus on the human beings rather than the mighty wooden schnoz, but we'll take it
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A few pictures from the weekend, Best seen as slideshow (Button top right corner):
Enjoy
Tim
Why isn't Linnet on here? A girl could get quite upset that she didn't get on a stream of over a hundred photos
Good photos Tim
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I did....
That's more like it!
Best to have her sound in the hull and scruffy in the paint than the other way around
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I know Linnet wasn't as shiny as all the other boats, but did anyone photograph her?
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Not picking up a car, are we ?
Not a car no; Ariel will be (fingers crossed) coming up to escort Linnet down to Braunston
It's fingers crossed as there's a slim chance my dad wont be home in time for Braunston, and due to this being Linnet's first Braunston, I am forbidden from taking her without dad. We have fights enough over the tiller as it is without me showing Linnet off on my own
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Since putting that photo of Linnet up in the narrowboats at sea thread, I've had a couple of people asking for more as it may help find her original identity.
So here are some pics and what we 'know' already. Does this help ring bells with anyone?
What we know so far is:
She remained full length and in service until around 1967 when she was purchased by a hire company (beleived to be the Canal Cruising Company of Stone, but this is yet to be confirmed)
It is beleived that when she was purchased, she had recently been pulled out onto the bank; and it is here that they cut her in half and fitted a steel cruiser stern to the bow half and a Lister SR2 (one of the early models producing 11hp at 1800rpm) fitted as her engine.
At this point she was 45ft long.
The above mentioned date has been surmised because of the date of the engine.
She remained in hire service until about 1969, when she was purchased by a person unknown and believed to be have been called Mayflower.
From here she was on to a Mr Malcom Jones in about 1972, named Th'only and shipped to the Lancaster canal, from where she was bought by my parents in 1973.
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Maybe not quite as impressive when considering the relatively short distance involved
I think it's a resonable feat considering that Linnet had a tired old wooden front end and a cruiser stern. The engine isn't at all powerful when all things are considered either.
She used to get "docked" regularly on the sandbanks on the north side of the river outside Glasson to have repairs carried out on her hull
She did once have to be rescued by the RNLI though, when a bouy she was tied to at Lytham creek snapped its anchor line.
On the whole though, narrowboats at sea certainly shouldn't be recommended. The sea can snap a 574ft tanker in half without a effort, let alone a 70ft narrowboat.
Narrowboats were built for canals, and canals is where they belong!
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A little late to be adding a reply onto this perhaps, but 3 times Linnet has navigated the Irish Sea in getting from the Lancaster canal (at Glasson dock on the River Lune) to the main system (at Tarleton on the River Douglas), back to the Lancaster, and finally returning to the main line. All this was of course done without any of the modern gadets and radios that boats run with today, relying purely on my father's knowledge of the waters (a captain in the merchant navy) and on one run, the local knowledge of a fishing boat.
It's worth pointing out that this was all long before the cruiser stern was removed, and on at least 1 occasion she was towing a wooden jolly boat Tishy (who's bow can just be seen in the picture below
)The trojan engine that did all this? The faithful SR2, and all of his 11 horse
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Won't be getting there with the repair kit until after Braunston ?
Meant the Ariel arriving in the area. I know you want to parade with a hold full of iron, dont worry
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A Teabag is thin and full of holes, but the 1885 Penny may not be so spooky. Depending on where you found it, i.e. lodged firmly in place, or simply loose amongst the debris, may mean it has been left as a marker of the year of build. Most GU boats seem to have had Pennies set in the top step with the year facing upwards, and the same year of build. We have an old Pine plate rack that has a 1920 Penny set into a recess in clear view, and take it also to denote the year of manufacture.
The penny was just in with the junk. Loosly lodged in with the dirt under one of her 'modern' knees. We did briefly think maybe it was a marker of the build date, but then we realised if it was, it would have been under an original one
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The name Teabag is actually growing on me. I know there are a couple of people (in fairly high posistions) who support the name Teabag wholeheartedly!
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might work - since it was a hopper and so presumably carried lots of soil, and it was also a dredger so did lots of digging...
Mike
While stripping the dirt and rubbish out from behind the knees, we've uncovered:
3 old bullets
the remains of some iron bearers (assumably from dredging equipment)
an 1885 penny (spookily, the earliest date we have her on record for is 1885)
We also found when clearing the mud from her hold that she had become the habitat for mini shrimps
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The best argument for 'Ohm" in my opinion is the funky bit of Greek symbology
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And I supposed "Omega" is also an option.
It is snazzy, and is already planned into her paint work. No cabin yet, but the livery is alredy worked out
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Hi Kerry,
Can I place another vote for keeping the name Ohm?
Why?
It's short and slightly quirky
Its part of the history of the boat - the only name it has ever had. I don't know how long ago BW named it but in years to come you'll come across retired BW employees who'll tell you stories about the boat (some even true!) such i remember when Ohm sunk one Christmas bottom of Farmers Bridge - that sort of thing. As soon as you change the name it'll lose its identity.
The last major traffics on the BCN were to the power stations and there was a fleet of boats owned by the British Electric Authority with electric names - they certainly had an Ampere
....and you're going to live in it so "ohm" is just perfect.
But failing that (as I've suggested elsewhere) Prospero - a character in The Tempect who Ariel "was bound to serve."
But at the end of the day its your boat - a future owner could well change it back to Ohm anyway.
Paul
PS and of course your boat has never been a butty nor will it be if its going to be horsedrawn.
The name is being changed for 2 main reasons:
1)I really don't like it
2)There is s hovering of people in BW who aren't sure that this is OHM
There wont be any future owners until I'm dead, and then my kids will be under strict instructions lest I haunt them
. Butty, like Linnet, has been bought as a family heirloom, for want of a better term. And she's going to be both butty and horse boat, because there's not a cat in hells chance that I'll be able to work her behind Sunday all the time. When that occurs, I've got a selection of possible motors for her to run behind, not least of all being Linnet.
So far no one has told me any stories of Butty, what's this about her being sunk at Farmers bridge? When was that?
Quick edit to add: any photos?
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I was going to suggest Motorohme until I remembered you haven't got one, so My final suggestion for tonight is Hippodrohme 'A venue for horse & chariot racing in Greece or Rohme'(& might shut Richard up as well, since technically it still has it's name in there)
Hippodrohme.. hmm, I quite like the ring to that...
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Myohme
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I am working with a new project that has approached BW on the possibilty of gaining one of their old boats. Hercules was the one that was mainly asked about.
We were told that the boats were not available as yet and that when they did eventually become available; they had already been asked for by TWT, and as such it would not be possible for the project to gain any of the BW boats.