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4 hours ago, GUMPY said:
Sticks like SH*t works well
Reasonably flexible and will stick when in damp surroundings. Comes in white and clear.
No brown?
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3 hours ago, MtB said:
All the same, anyone contemplating buying BOGNOR for £35k would do well to consider adding £15k and buying YARMOUTH instead. Far better value for money IMO!
It's as valid a viewpoint as any other I guess.
However purchase of Bognor gives you the hull of a full length Grand Union Canal Carrying Co motor boat.
Purchase of Yarmouth gives you what was originally an ex Fellows Morton & Clayton horse boat, subsequently shortened and rebuilt at the back end to have a motor counter.
Clearly thiugh Yarmouth's JP2 trounces the unsuitable engine in Bognor though.
It depends what you want - there are plenty of people interested in a converted historic boat who would probably not be interested in either of these.
I believe this is a price drop since I last looked -apologies if it has already been recorded.
Note also that David now explicitly states that he is prepared to split the pair.
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On 01/08/2023 at 14:33, magnetman said:
Yes it is interesting. We had it on here a few weeks ago. Seems a good price there must be an achilles heel (other than the shocking state of the interior!)
I don't think there has been any price change - £35K when last discussed -£35K now.
A famous British monarch uttered the memorable words "Bugger Bognor" - presumably that interior was the result!
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1 hour ago, MtB said:No, the really depressing fact is that grim as they are, the current lot are the best available.
If you think things are bad now, stand by to see the economy really trashed when Starmer's lot get in.
I'm certainly no fan of "Starmers lot", aka "Tory Lite", but they would have some challenge to do the same damage as was achieved in just a week or two by Truss / Kwarteng.
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Just to set expectations....
The owner of a boat next to us on our moorings used Polytrol on his somewhat jaded paintwork, (steel boat). The results didn't look at all bad.
Although our FLAMINGO had considerably more degraded paint, we decided to give it a try. We were completely unable to improve the look over what it was before we started.
So the moral seems to be that it only works down to a particular level of damage.
After a few months the boat that had prompted us to try this product also looked pretty bad, having gone patchy throughout the whole length of the oat. -
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If you are travelling down to Uxbridge, I would recommend that you forget about using marinas to refuel and instead make use of the excellent fuel boats.
These are operated by real enthusiasts, the majority of them on that stretch trading under the umbrella of "Jules Fuels" after Julia Cooke who started the business but is herself I gather Semi-retired, (not that that stopped Jules from refuelling our two boats at Braunston recently!)
Different boats ply different stretches, but whether you encounter Ryan, Nick, Andrew or anybody else you wll get first rate service, and a decent price.
Keep them trading - they can often get to you in poor conditions, when you would not ant to be venturing out yourself. They deserve our support!-
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3 hours ago, Bargebuilder said:
I did the work myself and followed the Morco instructions which specify 15mm pipe.
The gas inlet connection to the Morco is 3/4" BSP, so to have a supply pipe of 15mm makes good sense to me.
I can see no reference to 15mm pipe in the Morco F11E installation instructions.
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1 hour ago, David Mack said:
Photographs of one of the engine room ladders in Small Woolwich Alcor. Note that the hooks on the top are different lengths so the ladder is angled towards the back of the engine room. I assume the Big Woolwichs had something similar as Belfast has the holes in the right places on the door thresholds.
Intriguing! I had always assmed they went straight down by the shortest route.
Our Large Northwich, which has its original cabin, also has a pair of holes each side in the bottom door framing. I have the vaguest memory of the ladders having been discussed on here in the past, and maybe, (just maybe!), some pictures goy posted in the relevant thread.I'd be very interested in the original arrangements in both Large Northwich and Middle Northwich boats.
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6 hours ago, BWM said:
https://stores.twiggs.co.uk/products/mall-return-bend-blk-1-bsp
https://www.valvestubesfittings.com/black-malleable-iron-180-degree-return-bend-jinan-2132025
There's plenty available, I wish I'd found the first link when I needed one!
Depending on the clearances available, (which may in turn depend on the exact position of the tanks versus bulkheads), it might be impossible to fit a one piece "inverted U" to the right hand tank of a large Northwich boat - or at least not without removing the tank from the boat! Whether you screw it to the riser pipe first, or whether you screw the pipe on the tank, then attempt to add the "inverted U" to the installed pipe, you may find the "U" collides with the bulkhead ad prevents a full 360 degree rotation.
I recall doing one "from bits", I had to assemble it all in a manner that was not entirely obvious at first.-
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5 minutes ago, Higgs said:
What is the purpose of the blocks on the retaining strap?
3 minutes ago, Mike Tee said:step?
Exactly so. They make climbing in and out of the engine room a bit easier.
Not and original arrangement. The boats had ladders, originally, though few seem to have survived.
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There is quite a long old thread here.
It has discussion of tanks, fillers and vents, and also covers "small" and "middle" boats alongside "large" ("Town" class boats).
There is even stuff on Royalty boats.
It contains one of Steve Priest's fairly rare postings - Steve's encyclopedic knowledge of the finest details of "Grand Union" boats is second to none. -
58 minutes ago, David Mack said:
New Woolwich type vent pipes with return bends made by cutting and welding two elbows. (Proper filler cap yet to be fitted).
Not quite as neat as a Woolwich original.
Yes - that's a goo solution for a Woolwich.
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4 hours ago, fittie said:
The Yarwood fuel cap had a lug on the side that the hasp fits over and can be locked.
Correct. The lug is missing from both FLAMINGO's caps, but it has been smashed off from each, leaving a random edge on the cast iron that shows where they used to be.
5 hours ago, David Mack said:3. Is that the original Northwich vent pipe arrangement? On other boats I'm sure I've seen a similar arrangement but with the two pipe elbows being almost square right angles rather than the curved version shown.
The vent pipes in the FLAMINGO pictures are certainly not genuine Yarwoods. I mad them up using parts from BES!
Pictures of HALSALL sent to me by a previous owner.
Unfortunately non show filler cap in place, but this does show clearly the hasps that would have been able to secure them and prohibit removal.
It also clearly shows the lack of symmetry between the two tank tops...
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The unsuitable hose that was added to the right hand filler has since been removed, and the hole for it blocked up...
Pictures from LETCHWORTH, (aka FLAMINGO).
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13 hours ago, jam said:
The Graphic Boat does a wide range of numbers with the full range of logos from over the years, although they all appear to be stick on graphics.
https://www.thegraphicsboat.co.uk/narrowboatgraphics/boat-index-numbers.html
I bought the British Transport Waterways roundels from the Graphics Boat. They were not a success as the colour started to wash out of them after only as short period of use. I can't say if they would fare any better for something in only black and white, but I would certainly have concerns if buying from them again
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Very sad.
Surely one of the best known canal characters, and a true loss.
RIP Jim, and our condolences to Annie.
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1 hour ago, Mike Hurley said:
I cant watch this guy.
Which one?
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As seasoned Loughborough banterers, (it is possible we have missed one of the series to date, I think, but certainly no more than that), we could well be up for this.
Personally though I have enjoyed them either being in the gap between Xmas and New Year, or, depending how the days fall, actually at the New Year. Two of the last times we went we have enjoyed spending New Years Eve with fellow banterers.I wouldn't rule out an event a week or two into January, but do feel something might be lost by completely detaching from the "festive" season.
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The problem that Graham explains in his initial post is even more of a problem if the oncoming boat insists on staying in the middle of the canal, but both of you are in a "2-way" tunnel!
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1 hour ago, Ewan123 said:
Well naturally. The swan neck is a larger diameter than usual, that doesn't come cheap you know!
Fair point!
I'm not sure I would want to pay over the odds for a boat that was not able to accommodate "normal" 13Kg Propane cylinders, though - particularly as Calor are discontinuing at least some of the cylinder sizes tat are smaller than 13Kg.
The appearance of "modern" tug decks is very much a personal opinion, but I agree with those who have already stated that the one on this boat is aesthetically too short. The late boat builder Keith Ball suggested to me once that 7 feet was an absolute minimum, but that ideally you want a foot or two more than that, particularly on the longest boats. -
1 hour ago, MtB said:
Quite so.
Well maybe not compulsory but with a really good-sounding engine one gets a constant stream of questions from walkers/gongoozlers as to what it is and what it looks like, so eventually you'll decide to cruise with the side doors open.
Also, the engine room can get insufferably hot cruising with side doors closed.
But if your engine room only sports a common or garden Lister, and you keep the engine hole doors shut, you may be surprised to hear that you are still regularly presented with people who say how wonderful it sounds, and asking what it is - the response regularly surprises them!
And if you think an engine room with closed doors gets really hot with a water cooled engine you want to try it with an air cooled one!-
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10 hours ago, Napton said:
There’s a Hudson tug for sale at Aqueduct atm. Bit pricey at £155,000 tho!
https://aqueductmarina.co.uk/second-hand-boats/brigand-67ft-steve-hudson-trad-stern/
HOW MUCH!?! - They are having a laugh, surely?
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51 minutes ago, Paul niblock said:
Yes plus free delivery
let’s make it simple I want twelve hundred pound for engine and gearbox.
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50 minutes ago, Paul niblock said:
For sale 1.8 BMC engine new pistons
new heater plugs.new shells .new injectors.
working when took out of boat .
£14950 ono
07957353796
How much?
Is there a zero on the end there that shouldn't be?
Long shot. The Wards ex working
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Welcome Tina!
It is always excellent when members of working boat families appear and contribute to threads on here and I particularly enjoy it when they worked for Willow Wren, as I own a former Willow Wren boat. (So far I know Ted Ward never captained our boat, FLAMINGO, although his brother Ken most certainly did.)
Published pictures show Ted and Anne Ward as having a daughter Julie, so am I right in assuming this was your sister?