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Atom Dan

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  1. In the spirit of previous responses... I imagine that's aimed at people who make a real nuisance of themselves doing noisy work on their boats. Doubt it would apply to someone putting a couple of shelves up, or touching up some paintwork.
  2. Hopefully, yeah. As you say, I'm sure all this can be worked around one way or another. 👍
  3. That answer was about the BSS and its application to existing appliances. My question was asking if any installations/facilities/appliances are legally required, regardless of the BSS. Anyway, meanwhile, I've finally found the reference I'd read previously. It's buried in the CRT mooring terms and conditions: "6.9 The Boat must have a minimum level of on board facilities to allow the ability to be self-sufficient (including the provision of potable water storage with toilets connected and wash cubicles). We reserve the right to request confirmation from you upon renewing your use of the Mooring that your Boat has the required basic facilities prior to occupancy at the Mooring Site." https://www.watersidemooring.com/media/terms/2021L1STANDARDTCS.pdf OK, that is not a requirement for cruising the canals, but it is a CRT requirement for leasing one of their moorings. 🤕 I'll have to fork out to lease the mooring before the boat is ready. Not sure I can afford that at the moment. Working on it though.
  4. Yeah, I'm definitely starting to think that way now. The outboard is in my shed at home, but was serviced last year, left clean and empty of fuel since, so should be immediately usable, I think. A couple of external jobs to do - seals and a bit of paint - and very basic interior jobs to make it roughly habitable for a few days while I move it. I have smoke + CO2 alarms (twin pack I picked up somewhere), and extinguishers which previous owner gave me, still in the box. I've also got a BW key and some other bits and pieces. May need some new ropes and a bargepole. So I'm not far off really. That's why I posted this question, to check if there was any requirement for a toilet to be fitted, or heating etc. I feel like I read that once, but I can't find any reference now, and no one on this thread seems to think it's an issue. Very encouraging.
  5. Well, here's the thing. I don't have much spare cash as I'm doing up the boat, and paying for space at the yard. I also need a BSS and licence in hand in order to secure the mooring. The boat has neither at the moment. Combine those two things, and I end up needing to get the boat documented and into a fit state to cruise to the mooring, and then I can continue fitting it out as and when cash becomes available. Or I could just miss out on the mooring and take my time doing up the boat. Which I still might have to do anyway if I can't get the boat ready quick enough. But this thread has at least given me hope that I can make it in time. 🙂
  6. Understood. I imagine most narrowboats never or very rarely cruise after dark, and judge distance and position in a tunnel by the headlight? It's not a Waterbug, but not dissimilar. The boatyard owner referred to it as a pontoon with a lid welded on. I like it though. 🙂
  7. We're talking about the red and green sidelights here, right? I thought pretty much everyone had those. My boat was built in the 1980s, and it looks like the lights have been there from the start. Have they gone out of fashion? Or are we talking about different things?
  8. Good one. I do have that already. Required at the boatyard where I'm doing the work at the moment. 👍
  9. Great. Thanks. Should be able to scrape that lot together. 👍
  10. Ah. That might be useful to know. Any idea where I can get a list? Other than that, it sounds like I won't be pulled over by the canal police if the boat has nothing but a camp bed and a few snacks inside. That's what I was hoping. Thanks everyone. 🙂
  11. It's a very small boat (steel narrowboat, but only 23ft), so I have an outboard and a petrol tank. I'm hoping to switch that for an electric outboard one of these days, but that's another subject. This topic isn't really about the BSS though. It's more about what facilities/appliances I have to have, whether they would then be covered by the BSS or not.
  12. Ah, yeah, I can see that it would pass the BSS if there are no appliances at all. 😃 I'm just trying to find out if any appliances or other facilities are actually required in the first place. That's useful to know. 👍 Though one of the very few things my boat currently has is nav lights (though they aren't wired to anything at the moment).
  13. Hi. I have searched for an answer to this question, and I expect the answer is somewhere, but I just can't find it. I am renovating a narrowboat at the moment. It's currently little more than a shell. The thing is, an opportunity has come up to grab a rare mooring. I need to move fast, get a safety certificate and licence and get the boat prepared to get over to the mooring before I pay the money. All that is probably achievable, but I need to know if there is any minimum requirement for fittings and facilities on board before I can cruise on the canal. I'm aware of things like navigation lights, a horn, a headlamp, fire extinguishers, smoke alarms... all that would come under the safety certificate. But do I have to have a toilet, cooking facilities, a water tank, a bed, a heater? That sort of thing. I will fit those later, obviously, but is anything like that a legal requirement before moving a boat on a canal? I just need to get going. 🙂 Thanks all.
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