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Thank you for the sympathy
I was a bit nervous about posting it as last time, i posted about our boat getting vandalised, I was quite upset with some of the replys.
So have only been watching the forum since, and rarely posted.
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they say it could be a fire work, but we are 1/2 mile from the nearest house, and how unlucky would that be!
We are not planning on getting another boat, it has been soul destroying seeing all our hard work die, this isnt the first time our boat has been targetted, there are 20 other boats in the field, but it was always ours that got picked out.
We have a fair idea who it was but no way of proving it, i just hope karma works his way if it is who we think.
I feel like i have lost a member of my family! and my 4 yr old son is gutted.
Luckily we still have my parents boat to enjoy.
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well - the police/fire had an annoymous phone call saying that someone was trapped on a burning boat...
No evidence of any one on board has been found, police have only give us a incident number, they say not enough proof to say it was arson.
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From the Worcester Observer/berrows journal
2nd boat fire on these moorings.
(This was our boat)
http://www.berrowsjournal.co.uk/news/local...ery_boat_blaze/
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Why on earth would anyone want to keep firearms on a narrowboat, come to think about it why would anyone want to own firearms at all.. In my view anyone who has this kind of fascination or curiosity about guns are very people who should never be allowed to possess them.
So I am a gun wealing maniac... i think not
My father lost his hobby due to the idiots that caused Hungerford and Dunblane, both were down to police error and the guns owners were unstable.
I was shooting guns at the age of 10 and winning medals in competitions, but i also lost this hobby too.
My dad taught me and my mum respect for the weapons and the history behind them and the skill involed to shoot them correctly.
I am quite proud to say that i have shot quite wide array of weapons and yes i understand the destruction that they can and have caused but it is not the guns that kill it is the people behind them, a gun cannot kill without an operator. (unless there is a severe fault with the weapon)
I would speak to your firearms officer about storing them on the boat, they may want to see where you are housing them and more imortantly where you are housing the rounds and powder.
Unfortunatley none of us shoot now, dad lost hundreds of pounds when he had to hand all his firearms in and only recieved a small amount of compensation, we wished that we had got them all deactivated and kept them as ornaments but he lost all enthusiasm. We only ever did target shooting.
This website might be helpful - http://www.firearmsexpert.co.uk/index.html
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This is something we would like to do in our boat, but we wont be doing it untill we are entirely happy with the boat, engines and have all the saftey gear and knowledge.
That Stretch of the Severn is very dangerous with very fast tides.
I have been up there on the Waverley paddle steamer and it was very nice but that was a huge boat!!
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So sad to see that nothing can be left safely these days. There is always some yob who will spoil it for every one else.
But if i happened to their own house or belongings they would be the first to be complaining.
No one respects the law or the justice system..
No one respects teachers, there is no discipline in life now.
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Just waded ythrought this post glad that it has a happy ending , i cant imagine the stress that you have been through, and possibly still going through.
Best of luck.
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looks really good, have pm'ed you
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All sound interesting! think i might go and have a nosey down there as its in my locality!
Theres lots of talk of things happening down this way what with all the restoration along the stroudwater canal.
Could be quite busy one day!
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i'm sure you will have lots of fun! single handed boating is fun, but also needs a bit of planning, usually if people are at locks at the same time as your self you will find most are very helpful.
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As a newbie I have read some of the recent postings and I quickly realize that mooring a boat unattended on a linear mooring is asking for trouble I have seen postings of sinking’s fire burn outs and theft, but surely these can’t be the same moorings that BW advertise on their auction sites? Or is this some sort of subterfuge by BW to raise more cash???
The moorings are private and nothing to do with BW.
I am not getting in to an arguement again about leaving boats unattended, every one does it, you can't be with the boat 24/7.
Can't remove the ad from apollo duck as we cant find the advert number but will look in to it.
The boat has now been sold, and insurance settled.
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http://www.riverboatingforum.freeforums.org/portal.php
Forum/club for all river/canal/coastal boaters
All welcome
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Hello everybody, I just discovered this busy little forum, hope you don't mind if I join you. We've just bought a lovely boat to live on on the Oxford canal. I lived on a boat twenty odd years back on the Thames at Windsor and I have been desparate to get back to living on the water ever since. We've not moved in yet as we are still in the process of selling our house but the boat's all ours and I just can't wait. She's a 52footer built as a reed cutter for the Norfolk Broads in the 1940s. She's been very neatly restored by the previous owner leaving us very liittle to do. Just getting things sorted ready to move on. When you're moving from a 3 bedroom house, you have an awful lot of crap to get shot of, so it's a bit of a mission! we've got a couple of dogs who don't yet know what's in store for them (greyhound and lurcher). Hope they don't mind the move too much, we're moored close to Oxford's Port Meadow which is one of their fave spots for a run, so they should be cool. Anyhow, no doubt I'll be needing the odd bit of advice so thought I should say hi and get aquainted..Hi!
Hi she looks lovely! i used to live near kidlington on the oxford canal, it was lovely to walk down there on an evening.
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Finally got things sorted this weekend.
Insurance have given us a pay out and also the boat as well as they 'Didn't want the hassle of getting rid of it'!!
Someone phoned up about the boat over the weekend as it was still listed in one of the boat books, the situation was explained that it would now be a project boat.
The chap came to see it and made an offer which we have accepted so we have sold her and the chap is taking her on as a restoration project, she is going up to Stratford so the best thing is we still get to see her floating around - once she is completed.
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Perhaps they were mentally ill.......
Not the most thought out response, especially with mentally handicapped friends.
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It does seem a bit strange;
"That geezer was horrible to us, let's loosen his skin fittings and disable his bilge pumps"
I'd have thought bricks, fire or cut mooring lines more likely.
Skin fittings werent loosened... the pipe was ripped off complete with jubilee clips still attached.
The mooring lines were half cut through. Can't explain the battery.
Insurance are getting quotes to see how much it will cost for refitting all internals and getting engine working again.
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Thanks for the support guy's n gals.
Insurance assessor came today, about as much use as a wet blanket.
So we will get sorted hopefully before christmas arrives.
I think in future i will a silent watcher on this forum.
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Your situation is of your own making.
I can do without self inflicted sob stories. You could have alarmed the boat, locked all of the hatches, moored it in a secure area and many more things. When it came out of the water, you could have written that its great to get it out and that you'll be working to get it back to top condition.
children sinking a boat after being treated badly by the owners.
There are many boat owners who are away from their craft but they have done more to look after them than appears on this tread. There have been worse situations such as the couple who had their boat burnt out when they left it for the day. They lost everthing including all posessions. It's just the attitude that got me.
What a load of crap!
It is not a situation of our own making.
The boat was locked, and in a mooring with a locked gate which they had climbed over. The engine compartment isn't locked and i would like to know many people have locks on theirs. Alarms are a complete waste of time because no one takes any notice of them. So we don't moor in a marina, we can't afford the extortionate fees they charge, as a family we have moored on this field for over 30 years and only one other boat was ever sunk and that was by a narrow boat reversing into it and dissapearing without trace (this was over 20 years ago)
The 'KIDS' were not treated badly by any one we simply asked them to remove them selves from our private property to which we were greeted to a load of abuse. Its not like we waded in grabbed them and chucked them in the river. We Simply asked what they thought they were doing on some one elses property and to leave! There is nothing bad in that.
Yes there have been worse situations, but i started this thread to make any one who was in the area aware of potential trouble, not to be criticised about how we care or look after our boats.
And you have simply asumed that we are just writing off the boat? in fact you have assumed most things.
Well i have now been completely put off from using this forum any further, I may not be a canal user any more but i though people here might be quite welcoming, how wrong could i be!!!
Thank you to the few people who offered their sympathy and help, and thank you to the others who continued to upset, i hope that nothing like this happens to you, and if it does - dont forget to offer the trespassers and cup of tea, a biscuit, and a free ride, oh and maybe a tenner for their trouble!
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Well it looks as if the spelling has been sorted.
Pride come before a fall and if you park your pride and joy further than arms length away then it must be in the back of your mind all of the time as to what is happening to it. If you think that I might be hard on these 'poor' people then you really haven't got a cottage in Wales. Being absent from your property and then crying that someone has damaged it really doesn't carry with me.
When deciding that the whole boat is ruined because its been underwater makes me think that the owners can't be bothered. Sure it will need a complete clean and some new bits but a complete interior and new engine? I think not.
My own opinion of course and I am sympathetic to genuine cases of total loss but not to people who cannot for what ever reason keep a watch over their own property.
So do you take every little thing that you own around with you? Do you never leave your house? Do have permanent CCTV on your life?
Obviously this world is turning in to a place where you have to accept that someone will willfully damage your property?
I would reply more to your comment but i would be wasting my time and energy, as you obviously don't give a damn, and haven't read my previous posts about the situation.
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On the other hand my dad has been mooring there for over 30 years.
And it is only recently since they reopened the public foot path that we have started having trouble.
After the recent flooding, there were a couple of sunken boats that hand come down on the moorings and also afew caravans that stay there in the summer.
One the water had receded people came looting, breaking in to the caravans and taking any thinkg that was of any use, or they were taking anything that was floating in the field.
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Than you Stonehenge - I was starting to think that i was the only one who get upset about losing something you have worked hard on.
Ok a bit sentimental but i value and look after the things i have worked hard for.
Ok we still have our other boat, but we were hoping that she would go to a loving family like our first boat and preferably not a salvage yard.
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What's all this winging for? Looking at the pics, it needs a good pressure wash and drying out. So it was sunk but if you leave your car out for weeks it will get scatched. If you can't take self inflicted problems, then don't buy a boat.
How can this be self inflicted!!
Yobs who have no respect for anyones property sank the boat because we asked them to leave our property.?? I would say i hope some thing like this happens to you but personally i wouldnt wish this on anyone.
Yes externally the boat is fine give it a wash and she looks great. But internally (we have no pictures yet) will need completely re-fitting considering there was also a full tank of diesel floating around internally.
She needs new Engine, new fixtures fittings, all internal wood replacing so that 90% of the internals of the boat.
We can no longer sell her in this condition.
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Insurance isnt going to bring back all the hours of hard graft/time and money you have put into something that your proud to call all your own work, and it bumps up your premiums for next time so you still end up paying for the scrotes slaggish behaviour.
Exactly, my husband and my dad spent all winter not last but the winter before stripping the hull, taking away about 25 coats of paint that the hire company had used. sanding her down, using nitromores and dilunet gel to get the paint off! then gel coating and painting the hull in two pack paint, in around 3 degrees C. Taking off varnishing the wooden rubbing streaks, putting brand new rubber rubbing streaks around the boat, a grand of new canopy. and not to mention the hours polishing etc.
She went from this:
When we put her up for sale last year.
to this after being sunk for over a week.
I'd be very surprised if you made a profit out of an insurance claim,
Our premium will now rise, and probably so will every one elses.
Boat blaze on River Avon
in Waterways News & Press
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In the wreckage, one of the gas bottles was at the front of the boat, now these are in a metal locker in the cockpit.... how lucky would it to be.. to explode and then land on the front of the boat???
A person who lives nearby managed to get footage on video cam and he is sending us the vid, can't say its gonna be pleasant but it may shed some light.
I dont understand how a boat can catch fire when all the batterys are isolated, we had turned everything off and removed the little red switches.
Only just spent £800 on a brand new canopy by DB Covers.
Luckily some people had the sense to move my parents boat out of the way, or it could have been a double fire.
At the beginning of this season a boat exploded, nearly killed two people as they had a petrol leak and started the engine to go up river and BOOM.. very lucky people.
Just keep remembering things that were on the boat, like canal plaques that my husband and me collected when we were on honeymoon on your first boat. (staffs and worcs, bratch, and couple of others) and a bell from a friends boat who died last year.
My son woke up in tears remembering his micromachines and his sweets were on board.