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A quick update from a new account - I can't remember the password to my original account or the password to the email address I set up either(!) - I've packed it in with the analysis paralysis and put a deposit down on a boat today. Although smaller than I'd originally wanted at 45ft, it ticks most of the other boxes on the list. In August last year it was blasted and repainted all over including cabin sides and roof with 2 pack paint at a cost of £10k (I saw the invoice and breakdown and rang the boatyard to verify) so hoping for a sound survey.
If the survey comes back sound then I've a few bits to do that aren't strictly neccessary but would like to do to personalise it a bit.
The plan is to try it out for 12 months, taking in all the seasons and see how I get on. If it doesn't work out and it's back to land then at least I'll have tried.
Thanks again for the advice.
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43 minutes ago, BWM said:
The op mentioned placing one in a cupboard below the sink, a bad idea imo, and looking at the picture there didn't appear to be much space to safely accommodate one there either, and for the purpose of powering one item it doesn't need to be there.
Where else would you look to place it, if where I'd suggested? It's not directly below the sink itself, just in the same cupboard carcass. It'd also likely have to be a compact machine too.
What would put you off having it there?
In terms of it not needing to be there, I'm not sure else where I'd put it, as that's where the connection to the water is and also grey water exit.
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The other side of the wall is the bathroom sink and pedestal I'm afraid!
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1 hour ago, Tony Brooks said:
I think he said he wants to put it under the sink so the pipes should be there but I am not sure he has the height unless he buys one of the expensive "studio" machines - or has an exceptionally high sink.
The cupboard under the sink is a double one, so the washer would go to the right-hand cupboard and not directly under the sink itself.
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Ta. Makes more sense now.
What do you reckon, roughly, it'd cost for the labour and materials for something like that (excluding the washer itself!)?
Edited to add, I'm in the proper north of England, so no silly London/south prices to contend with.
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3 minutes ago, David Mack said:
Why is that easier than going round the back?
It might be me totally misunderstanding the reply, but I understood the wire would go behind the bulkhead, behind the step, then back out in front of the stove. Then behind the gunwale panels?
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Is this what we're talking about in terms of the wiring? Apologies for the noddy drawing. Would it run behind the gunwale wood paneling?
The stove is a Reflex, my mistake. I'd much prefer a solid fuel anyway and would likely get this swapped out and the Reflex sold.
I wouldn't be attempting any of this myself, don't worry. Wouldn't know where to start.
I'd be marina-based so not too worried about power but the inverter is 1600w pure sine wave.
The kitchen is mid-boat and it's a traditional layout. Landline, distribution board, inverter etc are all on the opposide side to which I want the washer.
Am I going about it arse about face in suggesting having the washer here. I only suggested it because that's where the sink is so thought it best placed there. It could be placed the other side but thought that might be more difficult because of the piping for cold water.
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2 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said:
This may help.
From choice I would try to run mains cables no lower than gunwale level but needs must. Can you run to the front of the cabin and across the front bulkhead under the front steps and then back to the galley? There may be a wooden plank under the steel gunwale.
I can't see the ceiling in case there is any access for fish rods or wires.
For my fridge (12V very thick cables) I routed a rebated slot through the floor board. Screwed a piece of plywood underneath it (screws from the top), ran my cable through the slot and fitted some 6mm plywood into the rebates to close it off. The BSS was perfectly happy.
Thanks. Though I'm getting a bit lost with what you're asking now! Basically the washer would be plugged into one of the two plug sockets in the saloon, with the cable from the washer following right behind the bubble stove, under the step and around the corner to where the corner storage unit is?
The only double socket is around where the corner cabinet is.
Here's a link to the boat and the photos - hopefully that'll make it easier! Apologies, crap at this sort of stuff.
https://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/piper-45-traditional-for-sale/657640
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3 minutes ago, Tracy D'arth said:
Is there any 240v at all on the side of the boat that you want the washer? If not its either around the back, around the front, over or under from the other side.
Annoyingly, no. It's all located on the opposite side throughout the boat! I'd be looking to replace the flooring, so maybe an idea time to access and drill through sub-floor if needed.
Do you mean the washer would be plugged into one of the sockets on the opposite side (there are only 2 above the worktops and wouldn't want the washer plugged into these)? Or another 230v could be fitted and hidden in the cupboard where the washer will go?
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Hi,
I've looked at a boat today and it ticks most of the boxes other than not having a washing machine. The galley is split across port and starboard sides. I'd like the washer to go on the starboard side which is where the sink is, directly underneath it, in what is now a cupboard.
There's no 230v plug in this cupboard or above it, and all the 230v plugs in the galley, saloon and bedroom are on portside. Is getting a 230v plug going to be a nightmare in the location i want it? Is the current wiring setup prohibitive to getting the setup I want?
Hopefully the pictures will make it clearer. The TV is 12v by the way and the wiring hidden up inside of the wooden in the gunwales.
Thanks in advance.
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1 minute ago, IanD said:
Oy mate, 'ave you bin readin' my mind?
It's almost like the video was bespoke made for this thread.
Foxes Vs 'Keith'. There's only one way to find out. Fight!
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On 03/03/2021 at 16:18, IanD said:
'cos vloggers say composting is newer and more modern and betterer, innit...
Except this one. He's particularly angry at getting "fudge" on his hands and shoes. His laying into Foxes Afloat over it cracks me up.
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I watch a few of the YouTube vloggers and the couple which opened the cafe boat come across really well. I've followed their vlogs from the start and they're amongst the few which aren't caricatures or parodies of themselves. I wish them well.
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https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/96453656#/
Not the first time it's been up for sale in the last 12 months. It's very reasonably priced for what it is and where it is but has been hanging around for ages.
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2 minutes ago, The Happy Nomad said:
That boat is not to long away from needing a repaint or at the very least the 'hand rails' painting. They are very worn or the original job wasn't particularly done well.
I agree and that's what stopped me viewing it. It's the original paint, it's 15 years old and in need of a repaint. I've seen other boats of a similar age, with original paint, in much better condition. Shame. The broker had said the condition of the paint was reflected in the £68k asking price. I'm not sure I agree!
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Thanks again, all. I don't want to put a link to the boat, it's maybe a little unfair to the owners. But the comments above were on the money in terms of what the boat was.
I've been looking for a while now and posted a good number of times under the username 'NB DW', but managed to forget the password to the account and the password to the email address I setup too. Never mind.
Although I've had a boat before, I'm still pretty green to it all hence all the questions, but not so green as to be seduced by a nice interior and have some idea of where I might need to look (and smell). And definitely not so green that I don't see today's asking prices as reasonable for the most part.
I've been looking for a while now but often stuff sells before I get to view or is so unreasonable that I just don't bother. I was first in line to see this last week but decided against it. Everything I could want in a boat, with a decent fitout and shell. But the paintwork isn't in order and they weren't for budging on the asking price. It sold the same day I was due to view and to somebody who's skipped a survey. I appreciate this approach means I'll probably continue to miss out on more boats but I'm sure I'll strike lucky at some point. Plus maybe demand will die down a little due to the news around vaccine being available to everyone by July if the virus has been some of the reason behind the surge in demand.
It's only my opinion but just because that's the asking, and often selling, price doesn't mean it's good value or one that I'd be prepared to pay. Much the same as houses at the moment.
Two viewings lined up tomorrow. I'm first in line to see one at a less mainstream broker so has probably been missed by some.
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They're touching metal, yes. Not quite the base plate as the area shown is around gunwale height.
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Thanks. Yep, more rot than I'd like. The way the panel under the hatch has gone bad, and inside of the cabin under the boards, I don't suppose happened over a weekend. Such a shame it's been left for so long without being checked on.
I can't tell whether that's scorching or wood staining/rot. Having said that, the rest of the photos show white mold and water staining quite differently to what you've picked up. I don't know if that's the original location of the Webasto.
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Hi,
I viewed a keenly priced, relative to today's market anyhow, 2005 trad stern boat earlier today, with the shell and fitouts both from very respectable names. The boat's looking a little tired and dated but nothing too bad. It's a standard layout and all seems well in terms of there being no sign of water staining or evidence of damp anywhere (insde of cupboards were fine, ply under the carpet in the saloon and bed area were bone dry). However, the boat did smell a little musty but put this down to it sitting unheated for a while. It's a leisure boat sat in a marina and don't think it's had much use recently due to restrictions.
I lifted the boards from the engine and found what's pictured in the below. I assume this is why the boat does smell a little musty. There's some water in the bilge below the engine, nothing too horrendous, but looks like there's lots of surface water / condensation, most of which closest to the cabin (picture of Webasto is the area closest to the cabin) and a few feet from the bed. I'm not sure it's a recent thing judging by the white mold and the ply lining looks like it's absorbing the water as it's becoming discoloured/darker at the bottom as it rises. Maybe the lining under the hatch is a tell tale sign of where the water is coming in from.
How bad's this? Would it put you off? As I say, it does smell fairly musty but there's no evidence of water staining or damp elsewhere in the boat..
Surveyor who'll travel to Doncaster
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Hi,
I'm looking for a full survey including hull, running of the engine and general check of equipment on board. My preference is Steve Hand who's an hour away but wondered if anyone could recommend a surveyor that'd be prepared to travel to Doncaster?
Thanks in advance