NB DW2
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So one to give a miss then?
The original owner who did the fit out kept it the best part of a decade before selling it. Does that qualify as it being 'built to be sold'?
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Hi,
I've seen a boat advertised (link below) which I like the look of. It's an owner fit out by Brian Spooner on an Elton Moss shell. I've searched the forum and found and the builder and boat crop up on "BCN challenges"...though I'm not sure what they are.
The boat doesn't have an RCD as it would've been exempt with it not being sold until 9 years after it was built. Am I right in saying that's not something to worry about now that the BSC supercedes this?
https://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/narrow-boats-traditional-for-sale/660825
Thanks
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2 minutes ago, NB DW2 said:
"...were great.
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Thanks. Just had a read through some previous threads.
If it looks like that now and six months it's going to look awful in a few years judging from what I've just been reading on here.
And for £10k on a 45ft boat, without having taken the windows out, it's terrible.
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Just now, matty40s said:
We went with Caldwells as Wesley windows are about 3 months waiting time.
I had Caldwells in a previous boat and they were great. Parts readily available if needed, no leaks etc.
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Just now, Alan de Enfield said:
You mean their quality is better than all the others so they have a full order book and a long waiting list.
No, I mean what I said.
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I spoke with them Friday and they reckoned it was around 12 weeks waiting time at the moment because they're so busy. Sounds like it's showing in the quality.
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Thanks.
Just a bit nervous about it all. The boat was bought 3 years ago by the current owners' and has been marina based since. No survey done at the time of the repaint and no survey done at the time they bought it, so no point of reference. What worries me is a galvanic isolator was only fitted during the repaint, so it's sat in a marina without this maybe since 2008!
The surveyor said that with it being 2 pack finish they don't scrape it off during a survey. The seller mentioned the same thing. Can deep pits be picked up, if this is the case, during survey? The surveyor again mentioned he can measure the overall depth of the hull across various places but won't know if they skimmed or welded any pitting before they painted it.
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Or a thread where somebody with the right knowledge comes along with the answer. There can only be one.
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1 minute ago, Phoenix_V said:
just a suggestion but why don't you ring them Monday?
I hadn't thought of that. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Looks like solvent pop. Taken from PPG's site, same manufacturer as the paint on the boat:
https://uk.ppgrefinish.com/en/paint-defects/solvent-popping/#
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Hi,
I've measured up some existing Calwell windows today with a view to replacing them. They're looking a little dated - the portholes aren't bad but the hoppers don't do it any favours - and I want a polished finish and concealed screws.
I can't quite get the measurements I've taken to tally with the sizes mentioned in the Calwell catalogue:
https://caldwellswindows.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Narrow-Boat-Brochure-2020.pdf
I might have ballsed the measurements up - I got 41cm / 16.1" for the portholes, measuring the outer frame to outer frame, and 94cm / 37" for the bus windows. Basically as per the red lines in the picture. Problem is I can't find the equivalent sizes in the catalogue.
So have I ballsed the measurements up by recording them incorrectly, or should I have measured inside of the frame? Or have Caldwell stop doing the size I measured?
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Hi,
I've currently got a boat under offer at the moment. In August last year it had a full repaint, including hull, cabin sides and roof etc in 2 pack paint. The work done is described as:
"Shot blasted, epoxy coated in JOTUN epoxy, plus 3 coats of PPG top coat. Grit blast Hull and 2K JOTUN JOTO 80 with up to 10 year cover, back to base"
It's evident the windows weren't removed as I can see the circular brush marks around the portholes, and also paint on the window frames which I was able to pick off. There also appears to be little specs / rash within the paint, is how I'd best describe it, visible too.
A survey wasn't done during the time it was out of the water or when the current owners' bought it 3 years ago. What concerns me is the finish doesn't appear too brilliant. The cosmetic cabin sides I can deal with, but if this was a rushed job and done to the standards the photos suggest, then what concerns me is the hull sides. Was it prepared properly? Did they allow millscale to develop before painting it? And what are all those white marks all over it?
The work cost £10k and only done 6 months ago.
Am I being too picky here? Would a bad job on the hull sides be apparent during a survey? With it being 2 pack paint the surveyer won't be able to chip bit off.
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Thanks for the replies.
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That's Henhull. Cheap as far as moorings go...but wouldn't fancy using a dinghy every day. I think the novelty would wear off ?
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Thanks. I had one on the farm moorings at Swanley Bridge last year with hook up and great patio area and I'm on their waiting list.
I think I know where you mean - around the Henhull area?
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I'm looking for a mooring in and around the Nantwich area that's got both hook up and somewhere to park. I'd rather not be in a marina if possible with it being for liveaboard use.
Nantwich is great for my commute to work and there's lots of different routes so you're not stuck on the same stretch.
Any ideas or known spots welcome.
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You might have some luck with the dedicated Facebook narrowboat sales groups. I posted up a 'wanted' message with what I was looking for and my budget and got a fair number of responses from people about to advertise their boat, so I was first in line ahead anyone else. Nothing came up that I was interested in but it might work for you. If you're not afraid of potentially causing owner outrage when lowballing and if you're any good at haggling then start looking at boats 10-15% above your budget and make an offer. The worst you can be told is no.
Try to buy privately if you can. You'll at least meet the owner who'll be able to walk you around the boat and show you how things work. I've done the same, and if you find a seller like mine, they'll realise they can't command the same price as a broker without the facilities, and agreed a price they'd have likely received net of broker's fee.
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Thanks a lot for the recommendations and advice.
Ricky Tropman booked although he's not booking work more than 2 weeks ahead, so we're looking at the first week of April. Fingers crossed.
No reply from Mike Boulton to the voicemail and Whatsapp messages left this morning, so would've ruled him out on this basis anyhow.
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Absolutely confused here. Does somebody know something about the boat I should know about?
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Thanks all. It can be craned out at Strawberry Island Boat Club I think. That's where it's based.
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It'll take 2 weeks single handed, at a guess, and I don't have the leave accrual.
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2 minutes ago, mrsmelly said:
You do absolutely right. Better to have had a go than look back later in life wishing you had tried. We sold our last barely used house in 2007 and have lived aboard now over 30 years never regretted getting rid of the boring house. I am having to move back into a house soon due to health and the wife is gutted at leaving the much superior boating life. So at present boring myself to death looking at flippin houses to live in
The one small bit of good news is that I have a mooring if I want it for a small boat at sea near where I am looking to buy the boring house.
Thank you. And sorry again to hear of your situation. You're looking at down south, on the coast then?
Another visit this weekend to the dementia home taking care of my mum, reminding me how suddenly your life when aged mid-50s can take a horrible turn, spurred me on with putting down the deposit. As you say, I'd rather at "at least I tried" even if it does work out. Over the next 12 months I'll be fortunate enough to stick away in the bank the equivalant of a house price increase of the sort of houses in my range. In 12 months that boat's value's not likely to have dropped significantly, so maybe a no loss no gain scenario if it doesn't work for me.
I'm no economist but I cannot believe the house price growth in the UK is going to sustain at current levels for too much longer. We're due a cyclical dip and the economic impact of Covid isn't known because it's not really happened yet. What's happened so far is immediate collateral damage, and that's different to medium/long-term damage.
When the house sold I cleared what were fairly small personal debts and a credit card which had just finished a 2 year interest free period. I own a nice enough car outright and owe nothing to anyone, which is quite a nice feeling.
I've just been pricing up storage units. The robbing bastards. Reason enough to sell stuff on rather than pay £100-150 a month to store it. It'll be cheaper to actually replace it in the long run than store it!
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Hi,
Could anyone make any recommendations for hauliers who'll move a boat from Doncaster to Nantwich? I've never had a boat moved with a truck before, so suggestions of questions I should ask would be appreciated. I know I'll have to pay craning fees at the marinas at both ends but anything else?
Thanks,
Brian Spooner / Wild Rose... Is anyone familiar?
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Thank you.
So if the annex paperwork is there - and presumably I could also check with Elton Moss now I have the HIN - it's not something necessarily to worry about?