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Just now, Hudds Lad said:
Please, please buy it, my other half loves it and has been on about looking at it for a few weeks, and i can’t stand it
Think they knocked 5k off last week and she was threatening to go look at it on her own.
Never seen such a divided opinion on a boat! I don't like the white washed panels but as I say, with a bit of oak trim it could be broken up a bit.
With Great Haywood being what they are, I found the original brochure online where it's up for £85k. I wasn't aware it was only just reduced as soon as last week. Perhaps it's actually still available. It'd be a first.
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1 minute ago, enigmatic said:
Haha, I was just about to make that observation.
There's at least one other boat on there which I know is sold. Still awaiting my call back 48 hours on since the inquiry I made.
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I'll give them a bell tomorrow. Shame nobody has a link to the owner. Knowing Great Haywood it'll already be sold and they've not bothered to update their site as ever. I'd do anything not to deal with them.
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1 minute ago, Tracy D'arth said:
What's under the tug deck? Looks like a space wasted.
Nothing by the looks of it. Other than what I'm guessing is a s/s water tank. The dedicated storage on the bow doesn't appear to go backwards under the deck to make use of the space.
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The bed arrangement wouldn't bother me. It's for solo occupancy. And if there's storage underneath then having one redundant bed would actually work out better.
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Just now, matty40s said:
Probably one of the higher specced boats for the age Stowe Hill produced(and they went very high specced at some points).
Always been maintained very well by the owners to my knowledge, on an end of garden mooring for its whole non cruising life.
The side panels and wood effect back end are an added bonus. Looks and steers well.
A boat I would have considered if I hadnt found old friends and they were selling at the time.!!
Many thanks.
It's a boat you know personally? It's been a pied de terre rather than something that's been out an about then? Considering its age I'm assuming that's not the original paint, either.
When you say side panels and wood effect back end?
Would you know if the interior was originally white or has been painted over? Normally alarm bells would ring and I'd assume it'd potentially have been done to hide water staining but not sure that'd the case with this boat.
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I'd be keen on knowing if anyone knows anything of this boat which might be of use to me...
It's a total oddity compared to most stuff that's out there but I love the shell design. I do quite like the layout, it's fairly well spec'd (50hp Beta, diesel generator, 3KW Victron inverter, 3 ways of heating water etc) and the condition looks good and it'll have been well looked after if this is anything to go by. Not too keen on the white-washed approach but some oak trims could break that up. Storage seems OK for what would be a liveaboard too.
Price is top-heavy even in today's market. It's been hanging around for a bit now. Other than the price, maybe the 2 single beds is putting some off too.
https://www.greathaywoodboatsales.co.uk/shop/tarn/
Thanks in advance.
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Cheers. The motor's smaller than I'm imagining then if that's the case!
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2 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said:
Why not stuff the motor in the stern and just run a couple of cable from the engine room. I have a BD3 with a hydraulic drive so just a couple of pipes from the engine room to the stern
Thanks, Brian.
Boatman's cabin is at the stern, so not sure there'd be room enough for a motor there.
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A quick question please o future proofing a boat with a JD3 engine in its own engine room...
In years to come, when it's time to scrap the engine, would it be any more complicated to do this versus say a boat with the engine in the usual place? Having spoken to a few builders recently, their reckoning is that so long as there's place for a motor and the batteries, all's well. With the length of the shaft and distance from the prop being very different on a tug-style boat with an engine room in the middle of the boat, I wondered if this would make any difference.
Apologies in advance for what's probably a daft question for most people.
Regards,
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Is perhaps, other than the price, the reason it's not selling is due to it being gas free?
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Thanks. Liability in what respect? Getting the certification?
The owner was up for taking an offer on the basis of the feedback from the survey, and even had he accepted ten grand less, I'm not sure I'd have gone ahead. Ten grand is a decent wedge of money but peace of mind and no anxiety is priceless.
I can fully understand others who wouldn't care so much and would've gone ahead and I'm sure it'll sell to somebody who'll care less than I do.
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5 minutes ago, TheBiscuits said:
Post construction assessment for the RCD.
Note that the three grand is for the survey and paperwork only, altering stuff to bring it into compliance could be a lot more!
That's the one. And you're right, that's the best case scenario. Worst case refusal to certify and a thousands more to put right, potentially.
I've pulled out of the sale on this basis. I'm down a grand for the survey and craning fees but better that than the alternative.
The easy thing would've been to press on and go ahead but I know the issues would've niggled away at me and always been at the back of my mind, worrying over potentially selling it in the future and associated difficulties. This would have defeated the object of buying it; something to enjoy and take pleasure in.
There'll always be another one. Perhaps the market will pick up and more will come up for sale now boats can travel.
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Quick update...
Part way through the survey. The boat hasn't been stamped with a HIN. Elton Moss confirmed they wouldn't have stamped it with a HIN with it being bought as a sailaway, so no surprise there.
They did however confirm it would have an annex 3 certificate as a sailaway but the owner can't find it.
I'll have to see what Ricky Tropman says but he reckons on it potentially being a problem years on depending on regulation changes. In which case a survey of some sort might be required before sale, I cannot remember the type mentioned, but potentially at a cost of 3k...
The nerves are kicking in now.
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9 hours ago, roland elsdon said:
Nice grey honda jazz. They dont lf you are a walker twitcher local or merely someone who has parked the car and forgotten where they left it.
I can inform from sad experience that anything with gti vrs will be stolen.
We even had a beige golf diesel non turbo stolen from stretton once. Clearly they were not joyriders, as it was found undamaged apart from the steering lock.
You must be a mind reader. I'd pictured what it'd be like to have a grey Jazz dumped by a siding somewhere without anyone caring. I've a 208 GTI, not the most expensive of hot hatches I've had but the only one that's been tampered with oddly.
An SDI Golf? No wonder they gave up. A getaway or a joyride would be faster on a narrowboat compared to one of those ?
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Thanks a lot for the suggestions everyone. Appreciated. The problem is the car might draw unwarranted attention, as is often the case with hot hatchbacks, so would need somewhere to stick it that won't lead to me worrying over it. Otherwise I wouldn't mind sticking it down a lane somewhere.
Anyhow, I spoke with Swanley, they reckoned on a week for the closure which isn't so bad. So I'll be going on the visitor moorings at Overwater.
Thanks again.
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8 minutes ago, Arthur Marshall said:
There's Aquaduct Marina on the Middlewich link or the one at Barbridge. Or go the other way, Stafford Boat Club might help, Stoke boats might have a space. There's a new farm mooring at the bottom of the Macc advertising spaces. Great Haywood is probably as near to Stoke as Swanley. Stone certainly is, assuming I've got the right Stoke.
Cheers. I familiar with most of those - Aqueduct's properly expensive and not really liveaboard friendly. Barbridge is a sod to moor because of the shelf - I briefly had a mooring there once and wasn't a fan. Might give Great Haywood or Aston a call. Shame though, I was really looking forward to getting up to Swanley.
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You couldn't make it up. After a year of searching, and procrastination over whether to sell bricks and mortar to liveaboard full time, I finally find a boat and have a survey on Tuesday of next week ass Stretton Boat Yard. I was aiming, should the survey be OK, to get to Swanley by Saturday and paid a security deposit last weekend for a mooring.
I can give backword on giving up my rented home but face having a boat and no mooring! I'd constant cruise if I could but I need car parking and to be fairly close to Stoke.
Nowhere suitable appears to have a mooring free. Nothing at Norbury Wharf or Overwater. Ah well.
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12 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said:
I didn't know Elton Moss built hulls. You wont find the builder of my hull, he packed up not long after I launched it, but its a lot better shape than lots of the well known builds out there today.
I have found at least 4 other boats build by CMN on Canalplaner https://canalplan.org.uk/boats/boats.php
I think Elton Moss were once known as Northwich Boats. I'm sure I read on here they were built in Czech.
The shell looks like it has some of the traits of a decent build - vents look to be built into the hull rather than having louvre vents on the doors etc.
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Top work. Many thanks!
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I found that on Google too but didn't ever link Elton Moss / CMN with that outfit. I know their shells are built abroad but always thought they were done in Eastern Europe.
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Thanks.
In all honesty I'm not qualified to do that. And I don't suppose a surveyor would do either.
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The seller is adamant it doesn't need the RCD - I know it doesn't(!) - when asked about the annex you mention.
The shell was actually built by "CMN" and bought through Elton Moss. I've never heard of them. I'd feel more comfortable if it were an Elton shell but no idea where CMN come in.
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Hi,
I'm interested in a boat for sale privately. The owner has said the shell is a "CMN" bought through Elton Moss. I've never heard of CMN before and can't find out much about them. I thought Elton Moss shells were built abroad too.
Is anyone familiar with them?
Thanks
Thoughts on this boat welcome, please
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Top man. Thanks.