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Congratulations from MARQUIS.
And a lovely picture from Laurence Hogg of BIRMINGHAM & BORDESLEY, apparently new. Well nice to see that they've made a really good start on reshaping the motors counter!
James
Thanks James, you know Marquis was my first love
It would be worth the new owners of BIRMINGHAM to get in touch through the HNBC. Website. The editor may be able to make the link.
I'm going to do that very thing, he might like to come out for a little trip.
Congratulations from Banstead and Bodmin. Be warned of the windy day!
Thank you we will x
I guess the new owner of Birmingham may already have been in touch with Pete Harrison ?
If not, (and I hope Pete doesn't mind me saying this!), PM him, because he is always helpful in giving you the data he has collected on a boat, particularly if you have completed a purchase, so it is not being considered when making the transaction.
Unlike some of the recorded "information" Pete will only give you real facts, that can be backed up with evidence. If something is conjecture, any notes he passes on will make that absolutely clear.
I'd love to say Birmingham was one of the UCCCo boats either I or my brother photographed 40 years ago, but I can't immediately recall any pictures either of us took, despite following the boat around regularly. Oh that digital cameras had existed then!
I've not contacted him but I will if you think he won't mind, the purchase is indeed complete my pathetic looking bank balance is testament to it! I did a search on here and came up with a picture on one of your excellent 70's pictures threads, you thought it might have be Birmingham loaded with coal with Andy??? steering, I can't find it again now but if I do can I use the picture for my FB page?
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Good for you. Congrats from BADSEY.
Please keep the wood for the cabin. It will always expand and contract at a different rate to the steel engine room but regular painting of the joint seems to solve the leaks.
We started a bit of a war at Streethay...the welder and the wood boys are allegedly fighting over it!
Good for you. Congrats from BADSEY.
Please keep the wood for the cabin. It will always expand and contract at a different rate to the steel engine room but regular painting of the joint seems to solve the leaks.
Thank you, I'm in the wood camp, but I want the panelling!
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News to me Darren, havent sent the picture to NBOC, as I dont get that mag have no idea.
Cheers,
Laurence
The picture was sent in to the HNBC by a Mr Robert Jones who's grandparents were given the boats from new, I'm not sure if Ican reproduce the text here...still reading!
Wood - I know it's unfashionable, but...
Richard
Yes that's what I want.
Harland & Wolff cabins were all timber, only the engine room casing and bulkeads were steel. The engine room was pannelled out the same as the back cabin on the outside with wood.
We have some sort of early MDF on the cabin now, it's lasted very well, the engine room is steel.
Hi Laurence
A 'Robert Jones' supplied the same photograph to the Hnboc for publication with a note that his father was the one of the boys sat on The Bordesley. It's all explained on page 8 if anyone wants to take a look.
Best regards
Darren
You beat me to it!
Oh wow!
I remember Birmingham with great affection from the 1970s, when she worked for Union Canal Carriers, generally paired with Balham.
She had no silencer on the Petter, and you knew it was Birmingham coming from several miles away.
I'm really REALLY pleased for you - I simply loved that boat.
Thank you so much, I loved it the minute I saw it! It's got a lister now.
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Do you still have a wooden cabin then?
Richard
Yes, but it needs re-skinning...the burning question of the day is...wood or steel?
News to me Darren, havent sent the picture to NBOC, as I dont get that mag have no idea.
Cheers,
Laurence
I shall nip on and look at the PDF!
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Have a seance and ask ........ Wilf Towsend ran our boat and used one until the end.
Takes about 20-30 seconds to remove, teaches steerers to be cautious too, dont have to remove for many bridges in reality. I believe the originals just push fitted onto a collar, ours secures with two bolts one either side.
Sadly our collar has gone, we have some sort of oil cloth on the roof so we may be see where it was fastened on when we peel it off. Wasn't Darley's fished out of the cut or did I imagine that?
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I believe Barnet has one too.
I wonder how many funnels ended up in the cut...accidently!
I've started a Facebook page to detail the restoration and history NB Birmingham
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Creosote rocks!
And, although historically accurate, I don't like them funnels!
Dan
I've only ever seen one on Darley, looks very smart on it.
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More the fact that they were a pain to take off every time you went under a low bridge (I think they were bolted on so you needed a spanner to remove them.
Are you going to put the creosote lav back too?
Everyone should have a creosote lavvy, I intend to get pie eyed on the fumes!
Edited to say wouldn't you think they would have put them on a hinge????
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Close up for you. Boatmen hated them I understand.
Oh brilliant. I can understand why they didn't care for them, probably a bit too modern, the 30's was a decade of ocean liner styling. I quite like them.
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Welcome to the world of owning historic craft, it is truly amazing, although you never truly own, you are merely a custodian for a period of time, but I wouldn't change it for the world.
Dan
Thanks...I think it's going to end up owning us!
...... dark side.
Hahahaha...move along these are not the rivets you are looking for!
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Dont cry over it please. The picture was lent to an uncle of mine by a boatman many years ago, its part of a collection I have. Sadly he died suddenly many years ago and despite efforts including publishing some of the images in Waterways World no one has come forward. So the family is unknown at present. Please feel free to use the picture just credit my collection as the source.
It would be nice to see a Harland & Wollf cabin done correctly, in this picture the boats are two tone blue early livery with the wooden lining panels and beading. Note too the cabin doors and interior painted in a mid grey which is how they were delivered, no scumbling was applied when new.
We owned a small Rickmansworth some years ago and the cabin retained some original paint including the grey still intact inside the cupboards.
Thank you so much, tears of joy I can assure you! This voyage of discovery is going to be such fun! I notice it's got the big funnel, I would like to have one of those made eventually, I doubt I would ever find one going spare. I love the collection of bonny bairns on the cabin top, what a shame we don't know who they are.
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congratulations,welcome to the world if "big" boats.Very best wishes from madcat Boris and Halsall
Thank you...I like big boats and I cannot lie
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Oh that's so beautiful I could cry We have to have the cabin re-skinned, it would be lovely to do it as per the picture. would it be OK to use that picture on my Facebook page? I'd happy to buy it.
Who are the family?
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Congratulations 121 from your three monthe older brother 109, come and rub hulls some time!
Thank you, we would be delighted to do just that.
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Congratulations on your new baby. One thing is guaranteed. A baby that size is going to make your eyes water!
Looking forward to watching your progress
Thank you, we *so* have a lot to learn.
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My partner and I have just bought the large woolwich Birmingham and feel like complete newbies all over again! I would like to do some research into it's history but don't quite know where to start, I'm quite prepared to put the work in rather than expecting to be given chapter and verse but any information/pictures would be gladly accepted, can anyone point me in the right direction?
Thanks.
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There seem to be (as usual) at least two sides to every "stolen boat" story, it seems.
Not quite the Facebook version of things!
No indeed not!
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Put a piece of toilet paper in bowl to start with.
Yup, that's what I do with method 1.
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I would have thought pump-out equipment was sufficiently identifiable that it is unlikely someone else could use it on another boat offering the same service, without being found out fairly soon ?
One of the odder canal thefts, surely.
I wonder if they took the tank, and if so how full it was!
I hope the thieving swine got covered in you know what!
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Boat reported found in Uxbridge minus pumping gear.
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Is this the one that has been up for sale recently?
Yes it is, I quite fancied it but hadn't sold me boat by the time it went.
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Yes,
I wonder what the story is ?
It is an incredibly distinctive Bantock based boat, that you would not have a prayer of disguising as anything else, so it all seems more than a bit odd!
I was hoping someone would come on and give us more information.
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I've read on Facebook that Swindon No 2 (BCN 735) was stolen last night from Islington. Pics Cabin is now red oxide and it has pump out equipment in the hold. I've no connection with this boat but as no one else had mentioned it I thought I would.
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I thought I recognised Harrison Ford stood next to you in your avatar.
You're Ally McBeal aren't you?
That's Bill Oddie and watch out for dancing babies!
(edited to say I should stop calling my OH Bill Oddie in public before he finds out)
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That would be brilliant, thank you so much x