[Starter time relay noisy engine won't start]

50 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said:

Or even the starter motor spinning but not engaging,

OK the problem has been solved with replacing starter battery ! Thanks everyone for all your great advice! 👍 

Great news! It's now working. They tested the starter battery by putting in a good fully charge one. It was the battery, showed a good voltage but died on cranking. So new battery now getting installed. Big thankyou to all your fantastic advice and time. Big thankyou from the lady boat owner.  

Thank you.

[Starter time relay noisy engine won't start]

1 hour ago, Tony Brooks said:

 

I thought that you had an electrician coming to look at it, what did he/she say?

 

If you want to help, the above is not very helpful. We need to find out why, so the first check is to put a voltmeter between the start battery pos and neg with the isolator switch(es) turned on and tell us the two readings:

 

1, the initial reading

then

2. the reading when you are trying to crank.

 

1. will rule out a flat battery

 

2. will help us decide on the next step. It might indicate:

 

a. a master switch fault (further procedures needed)

b. a start relay fault (further procedures needed)

c. a wiring fault (further procedures needed)

 

FWIW I still don't see why you need a start relay UNLESS it is a confusing name for a timed glow plug relay.

Hi, thanks. Yer no one came out !

I'm not at boat, but a friend is using another battery from a neighbour boater. It's a fully charged starter battery so hopefully see if the battery is the problem. 

[Starter time relay noisy engine won't start]

On 29/01/2024 at 15:03, Twoboxes said:

Added update: URGENT. Can you help please. I'm posting on behalf of the lady, who lives alone on this boat with this problem. She has been let down by qualified marine electricians saying they would come out but keep failing to turn up. She's very upset and been with no working engine for nearly a week now. Is there anyone out there reading this that could come and sort it out or even just do a bypass please? 

 

Can anyone advise please? The kubota v1903 engine won't start. When you turn the ignition the starter relay at rear of ignition panel makes a noisy whining sound, doesn't sound good. Red Lights on panel intermittent on off as you turn key. On turning key to start there is nothing but the whiring noise as you then turn the key into off position.

 

Batteries are all OK. Voltage checked.

What i can see, doesn't seem to be any lose wires. It just suddenly stopped working, there been no faults up till it stopped working. Starter has been working fine e every time. 

 

Anyone know what the fault is? Could it be the relay be the fault or something else.  Where can I get hold very quickly of the relay unit?  Relay info... Denso 12v starter timer relay 061700 - 3770.

 

 

 

 

Thanks 

 

On 29/01/2024 at 15:29, Tony Brooks said:

 

But what reading did you get, both before cranking and during cranking? Long experience suggests new members too often make such statements that turn out to be untrue.

 

I don't understand why it needs a starter relay behind the instrument panel - close to the engine, I can understand, but not remote from it.

It's not cranking at all.

On 29/01/2024 at 15:03, Twoboxes said:

MACCLESFIELD CANAL , BOSLEY ,anyone advise please? The kubota v1903 engine won't start. When you turn the ignition the starter relay at rear of ignition panel makes a noisy whining sound, doesn't sound good. Red Lights on panel intermittent on off as you turn key. On turning key to start there is nothing but the whiring noise as you then turn the key into off position.

 

Batteries are all OK. Voltage checked.

What i can see, doesn't seem to be any lose wires. It just suddenly stopped working, there been no faults up till it stopped working. Starter has been working fine e every time. 

 

Anyone know what the fault is? Could it be the relay be the fault or something else.  Where can I get hold very quickly of the relay unit?  Relay info... Denso 12v starter timer relay 061700 - 3770.

 

 

 

 

Thanks 

 

7 minutes ago, Twoboxes said:

 

It's not cranking at all.

 

[Starter time relay noisy engine won't start]

1 minute ago, jonesthenuke said:

OK, so can you tell us the battery voltage whilst doing this?

 

Or, do you have any jump leads? If so, connect the positive on the starter battery to the positive of the domestic battery and then try again to start the engine. Whilst doing this be very careful not to allow either end of the jump lead to touch any metalwork or the negative connections on any of the batteries.

Currently  can't do, not at boat, but all being well tomorrow a marine electrician is now coming out.

[Starter time relay noisy engine won't start]

1 hour ago, jonesthenuke said:

Just a thought but is the battery flat? It would be worth measuring the starter battery voltage if you have a meter. Take a reading on the battery with controls switched off and again when trying to start.

 

 

Extra info...The buzzer does sound when turning the key to heat plugs, but turning key to start position nothing happens, then when turning key back off the relay starts creating a whinning horrible sound. 

[Starter time relay noisy engine won't start]

Done. Batteries all checked and OK.

[Starter time relay noisy engine won't start]

Can anyone advise please? The kubota v1903 engine won't start. When you turn the ignition the starter relay at rear of ignition panel makes a noisy whining sound, doesn't sound good. Red Lights on panel intermittent on off as you turn key. On turning key to start there is nothing but the whiring noise as you then turn the key into off position.

 

Batteries are all OK. Voltage checked.

What i can see, doesn't seem to be any lose wires. It just suddenly stopped working, there been no faults up till it stopped working. Starter has been working fine e every time. 

 

Anyone know what the fault is? Could it be the relay be the fault or something else.  Where can I get hold very quickly of the relay unit?  Relay info... Denso 12v starter timer relay 061700 - 3770.

 

 

 

 

Thanks 

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Has anyone got any off cuts for sale?

I'm moored up on the macc and require a piece of Buffalo Board for engine bay. 

2ft 10" x 4ft 3.5"  18mm thickness 

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[Beta 38 require alternative domestic alternator]

Thanks for your links and advice. 

[Beta 38 require alternative domestic alternator]

4 hours ago, Ryeland said:

I had the ISKRA 100A alternator on my Beta 38 rebuilt recently. About £80 and ALL the electrical parts and bearings were replaced for that money. And of course it fitted back on the engine perfectly.

 

Richard

Sounds good... Just need to find a place to do it ASAP 

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4 minutes ago, Tony Brooks said:

The direction of spin is only dictated by the design of the fan and some are dual rotation. The alternator itself will run happily in either direction.

 

You profile location is hidden so if you tell us where you are located we can probably tell you where to get your alternator repaired.

I'm on the Macc... Marple end 

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3 minutes ago, Jen-in-Wellies said:

And pulleys can be swapped from one alternator to another. The more difficult is ensuring that the mounting is compatible and the pulley ends up in line with the other pulleys in the system. Things can be done with washers to stack it out.

Jen

If it spins backwards it takes electric out of the battery and makes the engine go faster, which takes more electric till the batteries are flat. (Not really) ?

Thanks Jen. 

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All new to me as a new boater.. Learning as I go along. Thanks for the info. 

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Looking for part number.

11201883 but can't find it online.

 

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