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  1. Boat Prices am i missing something ?

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    Willing to spend £40k on a boat but not buy a new mattress?

     

    I would not sleep on a minging boat even with a new mattress.

    Welcome to the forum. We're a fairly thick skinned lot...

     

    I have asked Admin to delete my account i lost the plot last night and i know it was my fault i kinda got piled on in he end by a few members which is understandable.

     

    just too ashamed and embarassed to stay.

  3. Boat Prices am i missing something ?

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    Posted · Edited by brassedoff

    Current boat for sale for £125000 that cost £150000 hardly used because the owners dogs couldn't get on board. Unlikely to sell for more than £110000 . If the boat suits it could be a bargain. Needs to fit your criteria exactly if you are to fork out that sort of money IMO.

    Same with old boats lots of great features can be found but if you don't likegranny decour it's not going to suit. Some owners have unrealistic ideas of he value of their boat and so that can lead to some of these inflated valuations. Keep an eye on them and see how long they take to go. As has been said if your boat is tatty but sound it could be hard to sell but lack of care for the cosmetic aspects of the boat are probably also reflected in the state and condition of the engine. If an owner couldn't be bothered to look after the engine room then the engine has probably been neglected as well. Buyer beware!

     

    Totally out of our league that price, i tend to look at the engine bilge first if its all rusty and scabby i just move on to the next boat on Appollo, that kinda thing tells a story it does not take much to paint that area.

     

    Their are some lovely Boats out their though, if it was down to me i would go for a traditional engine room with a Gardner Engine, proper character and they look stunningly beutifull.

    Good luck with that

     

     

    That sounds ominus LOL, thanks for filling me with hope.wink.png

  4. Boat Prices am i missing something ?

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    Buying a new boat is not exactly problem free. Plenty of people have lost money during a boat build when their builder has gone belly up during the build.

     

    Agree MJG, but if no one took the risk then their would be no boats in the future, i gotta say though i would never buy from abroad (no disrespect to any country) i would rather bob down to a yard and see the guys once a month and take some photo's.

     

    I could see it now, how far have you got with the boat ' well me dogs died, and me grans ill so ive not touched started it yet ' LOL

  5. Boat Prices am i missing something ?

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    I agree with you. Why would anyone pay so much for a 14 year old boat. I would pay for a good shell but with any pre owned boat you don't know how the boat has been treated. Cosmetically it may look good but has the engine been serviced regularly? Has the boat actually been used?

    Higher spec in what way? Some spend a huge amount on granite worktops or whatever but they might not be to my taste. Just because someone has spent a fortune on the fit out doesn't mean the boat is worth that much more. Beware the floating cottage.

    I agree with those who say have a good look. Hopefully you will get a feel but there is depressing stuff for sale. Just look around at boat shapes, they vary hugely and that does matter, you want one that swims well.

    Hope we haven't all overwhelmed you with information.

     

    Thanks Mrs Trackman,

     

    Yes i have seen the floating cottages with the gordy flowery curtains and matching footwear, some look funny to be honest and me and my dad have said (what the hell) so many times, not everyone wants blue work tops or weird patterned marble ones.

     

    i know its all about taste, but you mentioning a boat swimming well has made me think i have no clue about any of that stuff.

     

    I am qualified Mechanic and Paint Refinisher, but that does not mean i know anything about boats i have no clue what so ever, this is why i joined this site to learn from people who know stuff, plus i love a good down to earth laugh with decent folk, thats what i am hoping to find living on a boat (proper nice folk) not stuck up tossers who live in the rat race.

     

    thanks everyone for helping me in this thread, hope to learn stuff and have a few giggles with you all.

  6. Boat Prices am i missing something ?

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    Posted · Edited by brassedoff

     

     

    I would much prefer to pay £63.5k for a boat built in 1935 than for a boat built in 2015.

     

    To be honest i prefer the look of the old working boats, especially the tug style's, but my dads buying it not me.

     

    Its not about newness/poshness or keeping up with the jonese's i am down to earth as they come, its just about avoiding being shafted with a lemon of a boat that needs a boat loadunsure.png of work doing and the previous owners dumped it before it all came apparent.

     

    thats why we want a new boat, cant fault ya Boilerman old boats have character.

  9. Lyme View Marina / Poynton

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    Posted · Edited by brassedoff

    hey Ricco thanks for that, your not wrong their its stunning.

     

    We went to Overwater that looks Awesome too.

     

    thats nice to know about moorings at lyme view though were not far from their at all.

     

    i think having a good site owner is always going to be no 1 where ever we end up.

  10. Boat Prices am i missing something ?

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    Quote of the week!

     

    It is true that not all owners prepare their boats assiduously for sale.

     

    I was not joking some boats do look like tramps bedrooms LOL

     

    i saw one with a creased mattress and it had gravy stains in the middle. dirty buggers !laugh.png

     

    Not all brokers are the same though...and plenty of boats are bought and sold privately.

     

    Their really are some lovely boats out their Paul at good prices, it would be nice to buy a decent second hand one but its just scary when were talking thousands.

     

    what i have noticed though the lovely boats just pop out at ya on the internet some are absolutely stunning and a credit to the owners.

  11. pay as you go moorings ?

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    Posted · Edited by brassedoff

    i just hope the Canals dont turn into places for the rich folk, seems like everything is about tanning people left right and centre.

     

    god forbid the countryside turns into another london £££££££££££££

     

    fingers crossed

  12. Boat Prices am i missing something ?

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    Posted · Edited by brassedoff

    Never heard of Aintree boats but it sounds like a gamble to me rolleyes.gif

     

    I.personally prefer older good quality gear (the old Roller rather than the new Ford) but that's a personal thing really.

     

    Oh for a boat equivalent of the land registry sold prices listings smile.png

     

     

    I get that, i use to knock about in an old army landrover and i thought it was much better than any new focus.

     

    lifes a gamble sadly full of pitfalls, we just have to see them before they grab us by the ankles.frusty.gif

     

    Some brokers are happy to accept a boat at a price which is overpriced, while other brokers will say "no, make the price reasonable". Look at it this way: a broker typically charges 4% of the price. If they sell a 50k boat and it takes 6 months, they'll make £4000/year on that "space". If they sell a 40k boat and it takes 1 month on average, then over the same timeframe they'll make 12x 4% x 40,000 = £19,200 (minus costs of course - but the maths still works out).

     

    I don't know why Venetian accept boats overpriced but they do have lots of space for boat sales and a shortage of stock at the moment.

     

     

    Its seems they have peoples balls in their hands these brokers, thanks for this Paul.

     

    You need to go and see a lot of boats. It won't take long to see where the money goes on more expensive boats

     

    For a start - materials, then equipment, then style and quality

     

    Richard

     

     

    Thanks Richard.

  13. Boat Prices am i missing something ?

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    Posted · Edited by brassedoff

    Hey everyone, i just want to say thanks for all your replys i cant reply to everyone but i did read them all.

     

    I guess it all comes down to quality of the hull and interior fit and i can understand that now.

     

     

    its a mine field, we dont want to get burnt like i keep reading, this is why we think its better to get a new one.

     

     

    Thanks for putting me right about Manuel LOL.

     

    i know Naffing .laugh.png

  14. Boat Prices am i missing something ?

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    Posted · Edited by brassedoff

    The best only thing you cannot change on a boat is the hull!! Pre 95 steel from the UK or western Europe much better then the imported crap from eastern Europe or even worse China!!

     

    If you are going the new route get proof from the builder that the steel is marine grade and find out where its from.

     

    The quality of steel these days is generally crap too many Skoda's and washing machines in the stuff!!

     

     

     

    Thanks i did ask a few members today about Aintree Boats and i got a few reasuring replys that they were a good builder.

     

    guess i need to logg off and rest my head its all stressed.

     

    Please no, i dont want a skoda boat ffs noooo. lol

  15. Boat Prices am i missing something ?

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    Posted · Edited by brassedoff

    Why would someone buy this 2001 boat for £58000 when you can get a new 50ft boat built for £63350 from Aintree


    http://www.venetianmarina.co.uk/used-narrowboats/details/3368.aspx

     

     

     

     

    There are many good narrowboats around at reasonable prices. And you won't buy without a survey will you?

     

    We sold our Broads cruiser 18 months ago and bought another narrowboat. She is an old girl (1980) but she sailed through her survey, although there were some problems like a leaky side hatch and the need for hull blacking. We got the price down from £24k to £18k.

     

    No i would never buy without an out of water survey, i hope you are enjoying your boat i was not being all snobby about new boats i dont have two beans to rub together its my dad thats buying me a boat to live on. i am trying a new life away from mental health issues thats why my dad is doing it.

     

    its just the prices of boats are confusing me thats all

  16. Boat Prices am i missing something ?

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    Posted · Edited by brassedoff

    Simply because the spec. of some pre owned boats is significantly better than the spec. of some new builds.

     

    Look at the quality of the fit out, the spec. of the equipment such as engine, inverter, kitchen spec. etc etc.

     

    It's like buying a car, a new Dacia Duster can be had for the price of a used Range Rover.

     

    You pays your money and takes your choice.

     

    I get that totally MJG, and see your point.

     

    I am new to boating and dont know much at the moment and we all have to learn.

     

    as Manuel said i know nothing .

  17. Boat Prices am i missing something ?

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    Posted · Edited by brassedoff

    That's rather like wondering why anyone would buy a second-hand Rolls Royce when for the same money you could buy a brand new Ford Focus.

     

     

    Not at all, i have seen some right crap on some Brokerage sites, some of them are a joke inside and out.

     

    You can buy a Rolls for a few grand but it will be a shitter, you can spend the same money on a Focus and you have more chance of getting where your going without breaking down.

     

    Some Boats look like tramps bedrooms and coming from someone who use to be homeless that is saying something.

    I will find an example give me until tomorow.

  18. Boat Prices am i missing something ?

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    Posted · Edited by brassedoff

    We are going for a new Narrowboat, i dont understand why some of the prices seem rediculous, what i mean is why am i seeing Narrowboats built in around 2006 advertized for £57000 when you can go out and buy a boat of the same size brand new for £63500,

     

    i dont see the point in buying a boat nearly 8-9 years older with wear and tear and run the risk of dodgy maintanance for the sake of a few k more.

     

    i wonder if boat owners/Brokers are trying it on and having a bubble bath. glare.gif

     

    it just does not add up to me.

  20. Railings for Marple aqueduct - whats next?

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    Posted · Edited by brassedoff

    Its about time they looked at putting railing up in Marple, it looks mighty scary when your up their.

     

    i live in stockport and walk over it now and then.

     

    edited after reading the full thread, i dont see the problem with having railings.

     

    i would rather know dad is not going to fall off the boat or lose his balance while going over the aquaduct, its only for safety at the end of the day.

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