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    Of course it's helpful. Who is Brassedoff trying to help? Himself!

     

    Most people selling their boats are asking too much and are prepared to accept a reduction usually around 5-10%, especially if it's been on the market for a long time. Business is business, it's not about making friends.

     

    Brassedoff, listen to me. Make silly offers. You don't have to eat humble pie and increase it, but you can always haggle and do the half-way thing if your offer is refused. And if they still refuse and you still are desperate for that boat, then keep haggling. You don't have to add the seller to your Christmas Card list!

     

    I second Apollo Duck - I forgot about them, despite that being from where we bought ours! You can spend many happy hours trawling that site. Even after you have one!

     

    We once saw one for £85,000, asked the broker if they'd take £75,000. The next day we were very surprised to hear that the owner said yes, he would. This was not an offer, it was a question. We still walked away, because we were advised that a hydraulic drive would be trouble. The owner did not come after me with a baseball bat.

     

    Theirs been many really helpfull commments on here, i feel bad i cant respond to all of them it would take me a month.

     

    My Dad will be buying the Boat he wont take any risks and would not even consider a boat without an out of water independant inspectionf from a broker or private, to be honest we would not even look at private anyway i have read about people buying a boat from one person but BOOM, 11 people had a £ share. sod that.

     

    My dad would not give a poo about offering 8k below an asking price, me on the other hand might be sat in the car shitting bricks. lol

     

    non but the brave. - i think that was a filim. judge.gif salt n shake.laugh.png

  2. I have no clue how old school bitumen behaves under water, but it sure does dry out and hold water behind it on chasis.

     

    Is Tar Vinyl better than 2 pack under water, i know 2k is ok on cars but i dont have a clue how it works underwater or how hard it is to rework when blacking.

     

    frusty.gif confused.com

  3. Hi everyone, i just want to say thanks for all the help and comments its looks like you lot have been busy today but i could not possibly thank everyone idividually.

     

    I think their should be more Greeny's in my tool box but i only have two a day. lol (maybe thats similar to real lifelaugh.png )

     

    Mike and Loafer thanks very much for them lists i will print them out tomorowsmile.png

     

    I think i could turn into a Rivet Counter pretty easily once i get on the water, you lot have been a big help and very welcoming.

     

    Some funny discussion's go on this forum, but its intereresting to just watch and read sometimes.

     

    By the way i do feel like i have been here years not days ha ha.laugh.png

     

    ADD : i saw a boat on Appollo and will post it when my tablet is charged i cant cut n paste from xbox, maybe some more chat coming.

    https://m.apolloduck.com/feature.phtml?id=400524

  4. Yes to all of the above! Next Braidbar build slot is a start in April 2017, would you believe. I only know of two second hand Braidbars on sale atm, Luisa at Venetian and Shiraz at New and Used Mercia. Both are quite old but I know Shiraz and she's in good nick, has been a liveaboard with the same couple all her life.

    Saloon at the bow, though, so may not be what you are looking for.

    Thanks

     

    just been looking now, they look ok but think maybe a little older than we were planning originally

     

    This looks ok too , but I dont know which boat builders are the good//bad and the ugly just yet need to ask this on here.

     

    at least I know braidbar are good now.

     

    http://www.newandusedboat.co.uk/used-boat.php?boatID=587

  5. But you MUST keep taking those pills. Getting repeat prescriptions as a Continuous Cruiser can be a bit of an arse.

     

    Quite lucky we have a Marina not to far away from land address., and i can get 5 weeks meds before i go cruising.

     

    Were stones throw from Macc Canal.

     

    thanks loafer.

  6. Y'know there are loads peeps on here who once had office jobs but eventually found their resourcefulness meant they could earn a living doing stuff for boaters on the canals.

     

    You sound like one of these types of peeps. For starters there is endless demand for painting of boats. Some peeps want a Rolls Royce job so need to pay a yard £ks to do it immaculately inside a dry dock. At the other end of the spectrum there are peeps who are happy with a far cheaper hand brushed but respectable job done under a bridge. And for every customer you do a good job for (at anything), you'll have gained a permanent customer who will always come back to you first, whatever they need doing.

     

    And once you have experienced a boater paying YOU directly for your work, it feels very personal that they trusted you, and all the shit you describe will fall away, bit by bit, then the real you can emerge blinking into the sunshine smile.png

     

    Mike you know what, i dont want to be rich i dont want a posh car i just want a nice Boat away from the rat race and the ruff arse estate I live on, i have never worked in an office did 16 years at a audi/vw crash repair centre.

     

    Job enjoyment and satifaction reward is nice reward

     

    I dont want much but god it would be nice to get some bloody self worth back and to give someone a nice shiny boat back that would mean loads to me not just a wage.

     

    just enough money to pay the bills and buy coal and beer wacko.png

     

    Bring on that sunshine, who knows

  7. If you are able to make the effort to sort out an engine and restore the paint of a boat, even the tough task of engine bilge and water tank, and if you can put in, say, four hours/day living on and refurbishing a boat that has faults that suit your skills and inclinations it could provide a profitable therapy.

     

    If I were your father I would rather see you in dirty overalls with grease and paint on your hands and doing what you like to do rather than lounging around on a 'perfect' boat. As above, most new boats are less than perfect and the effort of fighting warranty claims may be more draining than fixing a few faults revealed by a survey.

     

    The Surveyor will also provide an honest estimate of the value of the boat. Like old Land Rovers the value of a boat depends on condition, not age.

     

    One thing that has not been mentioned is 'lead times'; it may be several months before hull build commences and another six months to complete the fitout. The most popular builders have a waiting list of a year. You could find your nearly ideal secondhand boat and own it within a month.

     

    Alan

     

    Alan your post has just put a new Narrowboat out of our window, for reasons i cant mention we need to get a move on really my dad needs something to keep him busy and to be honest we were hoping to be on the water within the next 6 months max.

     

    So a second hand Boat it is going to be, at least i know now it was never going to be a quick hows your father heres your new narrow boat in 4-5 months thanks for putting me right on this its really much appreciated Alan.

     

    The situation i am in at the moment is pretty grim, ive not left my flat anywhere for 2 years besides sections and going to mum n dads, i need to change my lifestyle pretty quickly and stop relying on dr's throwing tablets at me.

     

    What ever happens me and my mum n dad will be getting a boat as soon as possible and now we know we need to be looking at second hand rather than waiting for new build we can get on with it.

     

    I like engines and tinkering, my dream is to get away from Mental Health System/off Benefits and Repainting Boats at some

     

    Marina thats freindly and full of nice people.

     

    just enough days a week to keep me cruising and enjoying life again.

     

    just need a change of life away from shit you know.

     

    Thanks Alan.

  8. I love the interior even the fixed double, it woud be ideal for a couple or just me to live on.

     

    Not keen on the Narrowboats with the bedroom at the stern, would prefer kitchen/living area and bedroom in the bow.

     

    dont like the stove where it is, seems wrong looks like they wanted a big tely and got confused lol

     

    Spose it all down to taste.

     

    i feel like i should keep me mouth shut sometimes on the forum a bit scared of speaking out but geesh i guess did it last night in style lol

     

    some people take this piss with prices just like they do with anything else in the world, boats are no different.

  9. This seven-year-old Colecraft boat is moored near to my home mooring, and has been on sale for £85,000 for as long as I've been there, I've never been able to work out why it has been priced so optimistically.

     

    http://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/feature.phtml?id=415298

     

    hia, it looks stunning in condition but i dont like the paint scheme lol

     

    you have to give it to them for the condition it looks to be in but, geesh that is steep.

     

    maybe its like what another poster has said on here, maybe its ones mans dream and his wife wants another dream. > in the other direction LOL

     

    looks nice though inside and engine.

  10. +1 for both of those points.

     

    When you have owned a boat for a few years it becomes your boat and no amount of derisive comments will persuade you that it is in any way inadequate or inferior. "A boat is not just for Christmas!".

     

    Alan

     

    i have never had a boat but i know what its like to get attached, it becomes a part of us and our past.

     

    hope i did not offend anyone talking about prices of boats in comparison what they mean to their owners.

     

    thats a different type of value that means more than money...................................

     

    sorry

     

     

    It's OK. Nobody noticed...

     

    wink.png

     

    lol yer only 1700 lol

  11. i imagine it would cost a fortune in air con gas to fill that size of space with cool air.

     

    plus you would have to keep every window and door shut, it would be costly.

     

    extra diesel, loss of horse power, slower charging battery's

     

    battery/alternator x 2 and engine wear would not be worth it, plus the air con pump would not last very long at all trying to cope with 50+ x the space it was designed to work in.

     

    would not bother just get a vest and open the windows.

  12. I can vouch for ABNB and Rugby Boats - Dominic, the manager(?) of Rugby Boats is, I believe, a forum member here, and may chip in when he sees the thread. I believe most, if not all, of his customers are very satisfied.

     

    ABNB will be a bit pricey, but they don't knowingly sell rubbish.

     

    I can seriously recommend anything built by Hudson, but they are no longer building new, since Steve Hudson died recently. I have a 15-year old one of his, and I have never had a moment's problem with her, apart from batteries and calorifier replacements, none of which were anything to do with the boat manufacturer.

     

    Other quality boats are available, but you have to pay for them, no-one gives them away at bargain prices. If you want cheap, I'd say buy old with a good survey.

     

    All boats contain equipment made by third parties, and things go wrong with them when they get old. If you buy a well-built shell with a good engine, it will outlive you and your children.

     

    Don't listen to Mike the Boilerman though - he likes lots of old stuff with oil spitting everywhere and waking the entire neighbourhood.

     

    JOKE MIKE, HONEST!cheers.gif

     

    Thanks for letting me know about Rugby Boats, some of the youtube boats look quite tastey.

     

    Glad your boats doing you proud loafer.

     

    Spitting oil and spoke are all part of the fun i think, not that i would want it every morning lol, no offence to Mike.

     

    My land neighbours knocked on my door once, why is your landrover engine so loud every bloody morning, i explained to them its a Perkins its not my fault Tra. lol

  13. If you buy a new boat it doesn't mean it will be trouble free just (hopefully) covered on the warranty. I think it is fair to say that nobody as ever taken delivery of a perfect /no problems new boat ... it is all down to how the builder deals with the warranty issues. Good luck with your search.

     

    I can see that totally, lets just hope they dont go willy bankrupt within the warranty, cough or the build.

     

    I dont mind fiddling, as long as they fix the big stuff.

     

    thanks for the good luck

  14. Aintree boats do seem good value but they are certainly near the bottom of the price range and you do tend to get what you pay for. Our neighbours in the marina bought a brand new but cheap boat (one mass produced outside the UK) and have had lots of trouble with it. After the first winter they had lots of mould on the cabin front bulkhead, the front door was leaking and then split, they had to have a lot of the outside repainted, plus lots of other stuff. The boat looked all shiny when new but was just not really fit for purpose, too many shortcuts with the bits you can't immediately see.

     

    So I would continue to look for something second hand but avoid Whilton and their sister marina Venetian as they tend to be at the bottom of the second hand market. Certainly when we looked at some boats at Whilton we got the impression that someone had died in the boat, and they had just dragged the corpse out and then put it up for sale!

     

    Rugby boat sales, ABNB, Great Haywood (although I personally dislike the latter) are good places to look for better quality boats.

     

    Thanks Nicknorman for the info on Aintree, I suppose anything can look shiny but not be up to scratch.

     

    ANBN seems to have some nice looking boats they have one called echo which looks ok, but to be honest i know naffing at the moment as to what looks nice but is a pile of poo, i did not like the inside of echo particularly but the engine room hit the spot.

     

    Yer Whilton and Venitian Marina i will say nuffing, Rigby Boat Sales seemed expensive but i can only judge that off the year not the fit out or the hull like ive been told about. i think maybe i was making the mistake of looking at the year in relation to the price and not thinking about the boat quality.

     

    Hey the sad thing is you never know, maybe some people die on boats i imagine it very possible especially in the middle of no where.

     

    i saw a boat that upsett me, it was a lovely boat that had been passed down apparently, the owner had died and the boat was quite new, quite upsetting really lifes pretty cruel to us in the end.

     

    thanks for the info. sorry to end on a misery note LOL

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