Sally Grim
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Congratulations - it looks lovely!
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Thank you.
The list is very useful, but year 2000 is a while ago now, although I appreciate that to an owner of 1936-boats it seems quite modern!
So if anyone have an newer version, please share!
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19 hours ago, alan_fincher said:
A boat's year of manufacture I would be more cynical about - for most if you don't know exactly, the maker and type will normally be a fairly good indicator. A lot of boats are sold as being "younger" than they are, and I believe that in many cases the sellers know this. (If for example the CRT index number was issued in a yea before the claimed build date of the boat, then that date must be untrue).
Hi, Alan!
That's something I have wondered; how do you know when an index number was issued?
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13 hours ago, Chewbacka said:
....... The hot water is heated by the engine, so if running for a few hours, having a shower as soon as the water is hot will allow the replacement cold water time to heat up. If you all have a shower at the end of the day, don't be surprised if you have no hot water in the morning. ....
The boats we´ve hired have had gas boilers for hot water. So we didn´t need to run the engine to get a shower. But it probably varies from company to company - we haven't hired from Clifton cruisers, so I don´t know about them.
I would recommend you to get one of the canal guides for the area. Nicholson´s or Pearson´s. It tells you where everything practical is (locks, shops, pubs, water taps, garbage bins,...), and it also help with planning and preparing the trip.
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17 hours ago, alan_fincher said:
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you probably have not thought enough about what you actually need to be ready to make the right decision.
Hi, Alan F!
Since yesterday, I have thought a lot about your candid comment. And in a way you are dead right. Not that I havn't thought a lot about what sort of boat I want - I have. But, because there are relatively few of them on the market (they all seem to be 57 ft trads), I have started to let my requirements slip. And the ones we like often have a large price tag to them. So little by little, the budget has stretched too. So thank you for pointing that out, it was really helpful in bringing me back on track!
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1 hour ago, Neil2 said:
You often find cruiser stern boats with the bed right at the back end up having to fit a pram cover, (...)
Why is that? Aren´t cruiser stern boats normally weather proof?
45 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:I thought ours was quite 'nice'
I think that looks very nice, Alan.
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36 minutes ago, alan_fincher said:
Looks overpriced again to me.
I would politely say that if you are looking at.....
Boats that are 45 feet, 50 feet and 56 feet
Boats that are reverse and conventional layout
Boats that are cruiser stern and semi trad
Boats that are cassette and pump out loos
you probably have not thought enough about what you actually need to be ready to make the right decision.
Of course other people will say you will know when you have found the right boat, but you still don't seem to be at that place either, so possibly none of these are the right boat for you?I have thought quite a lot about it, actually, and the ideal boat would be 48-50 ft (52 at the most). I wouldn't go down to 40, because I don´t want to make up the bed every night. It would be a cruiser or a semitrad, as we mostly will be two on the boat, and that would give us more room for both of us when cruising. As to reverse or traditional lay out, I reserve judgement. Reverse layout looks nice, because it gives easier contact between the one at the helm and a person inside the boat. But I haven´t tried it. As to the big question, cassettes seems more flexible, so I would prefer that, but I don´t think that should be the most important deciding factor.
But the most important aspect for me is to get a boat in good working condition, which doesn´t need a lot of repairs, overplating, TLC, etc in the overseeable future. I do not want a project. And the engine must look nice and clean.
And I have searched this forum a lot to try and learn, and there is so many people who says that they end up with a boat quite different from their initial requirement. So i try not to narrow my searches to much. I might seem a bit undecided (or quite a lot, some may say), but I am actually starting coming to grips with this. I hope.... ;)
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It was my thought too, that Eventide is a nice boat, but too expensive, given that it is 18 y.o. Lots of quality details, but still somewhat old. So I´m in a way glad to hear that my novice opinion was not far out.
Of the three I actually like Honey B the most. It looks like someone has enjoyed it. And as I said, I like boats to have a feel to them. But it is a bit over budget. Which we have already stretched from what we started with. And it also is longer than what we planned for (appr. 50 ft).
So I would greatly appreciate any further comments on Honey B. Is there any warning signs that I need to be aware of?
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11 hours ago, ladygardener said:
I love Eventide, except for that one essential for myself [looking for a liveaboard] .......... a multi fuel stove.
11 hours ago, Mike the Boilerman said:(....) Or rather it finds you and you'll feel strangely driven to get yer cheque book out.
I also wish for a multi fuel stove. But apart from that, Eventide looks so very lovely. Most of what we are looking for, even a washing machine fitted. We probably can´t do better, unless we build one ourselves.
But the odd thing is, I don´t feel the urge to get my check book out. Maybe it is too perfect looking. I like houses, boats and such to have a soul. (Which is a very dangerous trait of my character.)
1 hour ago, Neil Smith said:The first boat says 2011 but that might be when it was first commissioned or registered, it might have taken years to fit out.
Neil.
I have taken it for granted that when it said that the boat was from 2011, that referred to when the hull was built. Isn´t that generally so?
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Thanks, Alan; you give me hope! It sounds like a brilliant adventure.
And Mike: do I need to worry about mould on the outside of the hull as well? Won´t that wash off? I already worry about mould on the inside, if there is the least water stains by the windows/hatches/etc.
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So from my initial question I have learnt 3 things:
1) We don´t need a pump out the last thing before we leave the boat. It may even be better not to.
2) We (my husband) don´t necessarily need to empty the cassette the last thing before we leave the boat.
And last but not least:
3) I need to be very wary if I am offered home grown vegetables from someones boat.
Brilliant!
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Thank you everyone for your input - it is very much appreciated.
It´s very confusing trying to get an understanding of everything, both the technical aspects, and which arrangements will work out. The more I read and google, the more bewildering it is. And budgetwise also. We have looked at some boats in real life, and so many on the internet. Does this process involve the budget going up, and the requirements going down, for everyone?
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53 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:
Or - a bucket full of sawdust ?
If there´s no photos of the bathroom in the ad, is that what I should expect?
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37 minutes ago, BruceinSanity said:
Leaving a pump out tank empty can be a bad idea. It's never completely empty, of course, and the remaining half inch or whatever can dry out over time, leaving the solids to set and so reduce the effective volume of the tank.
That is quite the opposite of what I imagined - thank you for pointing that out!
As to cassette/pump out - I was really trying not to go there.
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14 minutes ago, Nightwatch said:
No. In my opinion. If you use one of the many measures to break down what's in the tank and the bowl in retaining a water barrier then all should be well.
After many years of using products like 'blue' and 'odurloss' we have now just treat with 'bio' washing fluid or gel. Works just as well and less expensive.
I'm sure mrsmelly will be along soon to say it's a no brainier,go for cassette. But even mrsmelly has a pumpout now,surprisingly.
Hope this helps.
Thank you, it was very helpful!
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I´ve googled and researched pros and cons with pump outs and cassettes - but there is one practical aspect I can´t seem to find an answer to.
If we go for a boat with a pump out, and perhaps only use the boat once a month parts of the year - do we need to have a pump out each time we leave the boat, even though the holding tank may only be half full? If we leave it with contents till next month, will we get a problem with smell when we return? And will the contents "set", so it will be hard to get it out the next time?
My apologies for asking an indelicate question, I hope no one is reading this whilst having their lunch.
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6 minutes ago, chubby said:
boat 3 . Grim . It has a tent on the back and to me its overpriced .
Doesn´t the tent come off? We certainly don´t want it.
Edited for bad English.
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18 minutes ago, adam1uk said:
The middle one looks the nicest, but does seem on the expensive side. However, it does look as though it's in very good condition, and the generator won't have been cheap.
The first one somehow looks older than 2011 to me. It certainly hasn't been looked after like the middle one has.
The middle one looks almost too pristine. It is blackened and have service last month, isn´t that a warning sign?
What is the advantages of a built in generator? We will be using the boat for holidays and weekends for the next ten years.
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4 minutes ago, Nightwatch said:
if the one at Whilton is on budget then I assume about £35000 is your budget. You should be able to get an up and running boat in that price range. apolloduck.co.uk has plenty to consider.
Choose a definate budget and then choose a good trustworthy broker. Some say Whilton are not the best,some say ABNB are.
Our budget is ideally that. But it looks like narrowboats are increasing in price, so I was afraid we needed to up that quite a lot. I have searched this forum for brokers. So ideally of course I would like to buy from ABNB of the two, but unfortunately it is the seller that chooses the broker....
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Just now, ditchcrawler said:
Aynho didn't make hulls only fit outs so could be a Reeves Hull and Aynho fitout. The chaps that fitted out at Aynho went on to open Kingsground Narrowboats
Yes, that would explain it. Thanks for unravelling!
A very naive question: is a G.Reeves a good hull?
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We´re still searching for our first boat. We are more and more disillusioned about how much we should budget to get a decent boat in good running condition. I´m concerned we need to double our original budget. Lately we´ve only been internet browsing, but have seen some boats which looks good in the photos. I´ve had a lot of good advice from you folks before, may I run a couple of more boats by you?
This one is on budget, but it´s been for sale at Whilton for some time now. Any idea of why it isn´t selling?
https://www.whiltonmarina.co.uk/used-narrowboats/details/3875.aspx
And then the ones above our budget:
This one looks quite lovely - but maybe a bit expensive given that it is from 1999? And it lacks a stove, and perhaps some storage?
http://abnb.co.uk/boat_pages/3137web/3137abnb.php?BoatID=3137
And this one, longer than we looked for. And why does it say G.Reeves, when canal plan says Aynho Dock Services?
http://www.abcboatsales.com/boat-sales/honey-b/
Greatly appreciate your opinion on these ones.
Sally
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On the Anderton Lift website it says that hire boats need the permission of the boat company.
We're doing the Cheshire ring this summer, so I've been gathering information....
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Perhaps a silly question, and probably something you have already considered, but....
Did you move a lot of your heavy stuff onto the back half of the boat?
Did you rip ut and remove things from the front half of the boat?
(Edited for typo)
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Yes, I have seen some of the threads here about Whilton.
And I have been doing a lot of research on apolloduck. But many boats for sale have no pictures of the engine at all, (but lots of the interior). Why is that, is that a bad signal? The engine seems such an important part of a boat.....
What do you wish I already knew?
in New to Boating?
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Before the first time we hired, we had a browse through the boater's handbook and found it helpful:
https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/media/library/141.pdf
Have a lovely, relaxing holiday!